Obama praises rigged Libyan elections - Ignores the rape and genocide of black Libya

bravo said:
...he calls 'em like he sees 'em....like the rest of us....


Thats just the way it is....The MSMedia itself ADMITS to its left leaning bias and don't even try to deny it anymore....ONLY YOU STILL CLING TO THE FANTASY
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Oh, really? The MSM admitted en masse that they have a left-wing bias?

Interesting.
 
Btw - you sound pretty pissed, bravs.

I can only imagine the frustration of not being able to read things properly, or make a coherent argument, or achieve any sort of objectivity.

It must be miserable.
 
blackascoal said:
The glaring truth is that the horrors that this nation visits upon innocent people in the name of profit has not changed one iota from the days of when Bush was doing it. In fact, they've gotten more sophisticated about it.

WAR is not an issue that democrats want to talk about these days. They have lost the moral high ground.

What difference does it make if the American people support a war or not? It's not going to change one damn thing.

Any idea why the world opposed action against the Syrians?

Because they had just watched Obama and NATO do the same thing to Libya .. using the same band of terrorist "rebels."

Still not a word about the secret relationship between Al Queda and the US government.
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But when were Democrats so anti-war? Plenty of them voted for the Iraq War Resolution (though more voted against it than for it in the House I believe) and pretty much everyone voted to strike Afghanistan. I remember Barbara Lee came out against that, anyone else? I like to separate out Democrats, liberals, and leftists. If we look to elected politicians of any party to set our moral guidelines we would be in a very dark place.

I personally IRL do not know any anti-war people who became pro-war once Obama was elected. However, there is no doubt that many middle of the road Democrats on the internet are pro war now. I just don't know how representative they are.
 
Onceler said:
Mighty white of you. (Why do you cling to racist terms so much ?...Habit?...)

In the meantime, why don't you do a list of conflicts that you supported & ones that you opposed over the years, and we can mix & match against who was Prez at any given time.

You're deep in the GOP koolaid. Your hackish existence is actually an embarassment for humanity.
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Irrelevant....Unlike some Democratic Presidents....(Veitnam), most conflicts we entered into were for very sound reasons and beliefs at the time,(even Iraq), whether we personally agreed with those reasons is not the issue....

but we know we disagree, and its useless to go over it all again.....
 
Onceler said:
Btw - you sound pretty pissed, bravs.

I can only imagine the frustration of not being able to read things properly, or make a coherent argument, or achieve any sort of objectivity.

It must be miserable.
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Poor Onecell..... not even clever.....
 
bravo said:
Irrelevant....Unlike some Democratic Presidents....(Veitnam), most conflicts we entered into were for very sound reasons and beliefs at the time,(even Iraq), whether we personally agreed with those reasons is not the issue....

but we know we disagree, and its useless to go over it all again.....
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Fuck off. Iraq was a bogus conflict. Paul Wolfowicz himself admitted that they "used" WMD's as a "selling point", to market the war to the American public.

What a fool you are.
 
Listen to the level of Code Pink intelligence.......fine example of Liberals in the wild.


 
Darla said:
The only "liberal" here I remember supporting Libya was Jarod and I would call him a Democrat not a liberal. There may be others but I don't recall.
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I supported the Libya intervention and I still do, it is early days yet and I wouldn't be surprised if Libya splits into its constituent parts, namely East, West and South. Gaddafi was an unmitigated bastard who needed to be got rid of, if he had stayed in power then there would have been wholesale carnage.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I supported the Libya intervention and I still do, it is early days yet and I wouldn't be surprised if Libya splits into its constituent parts, namely East, West and South. Gaddafi was an unmitigated bastard who needed to be got rid of, if he had stayed in power then there would have been wholesale carnage.
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Yes but you are not a liberal. As I believe we have agreed. :)
 
Darla said:
But when were Democrats so anti-war? Plenty of them voted for the Iraq War Resolution (though more voted against it than for it in the House I believe) and pretty much everyone voted to strike Afghanistan. I remember Barbara Lee came out against that, anyone else? I like to separate out Democrats, liberals, and leftists. If we look to elected politicians of any party to set our moral guidelines we would be in a very dark place.

I personally IRL do not know any anti-war people who became pro-war once Obama was elected. However, there is no doubt that many middle of the road Democrats on the internet are pro war now. I just don't know how representative they are.
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"antiwar" is a misnomer .. often just a placebo in the place of where real consciousness should be.

Like you, I don't make the mistake of confusing democrats with the left. But being on the left, there should be nothing but shame that identifies our capitulation with evil. There is no excuse for the silence of the left on Libya. It was a crime against humanty in the name of profit .. no different than the attack on Iraq.

Perhaps I should start identifying myself with the far-left .. which seems to be the last refuge of humanity.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I think we agreed that I'm not your kind of liberal at least.
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I think that your views put you firmly in the conservative camp in your own country. And your views on gender, big oil, and climate change would make anyone hard pressed to term you a liberal even here. It's just that here, because you are not actually bugshagging nuts, the conservatives wouldn't claim you.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I supported the Libya intervention and I still do, it is early days yet and I wouldn't be surprised if Libya splits into its constituent parts, namely East, West and South. Gaddafi was an unmitigated bastard who needed to be got rid of, if he had stayed in power then there would have been wholesale carnage.
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An unbelieveably unlearned statement.
 
blackascoal said:
"antiwar" is a misnomer .. often just a placebo in the place of where real consciousness should be.

Like you, I don't make the mistake of confusing democrats with the left. But being on the left, there should be nothing but shame that identifies our capitulation with evil. There is no excuse for the silence of the left on Libya. It was a crime against humanty in the name of profit .. no different than the attack on Iraq.

Perhaps I should start identifying myself with the far-left .. which seems to be the last refuge of humanity.
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I don't think that antiwar is a misnomer. I certainly identify myself that way. All airstrikes are crimes. Iraq was an occupation that went on for 9 years. I can see why the noise about that was louder. I do agree, again, that some Democrats (mostly on the internet as far as I can tell), have become pro-war in that they are pro-Obama in anything he does. That's a cult of personality. But I haven't seen it too much in real life. Though it's not like I have such a wide circle of people I discuss politics with, so I can only speak of what I have personally witnessed.
 
Darla said:
I think that your views put you firmly in the conservative camp in your own country. And your views on gender, big oil, and climate change would make anyone hard pressed to term you a liberal even here. It's just that here, because you are not actually bugshagging nuts, the conservatives wouldn't claim you.
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All three main parties in the UK supported the intervention in Libya on humanitarian grounds. If anybody imagined that Libyan society, which had never known any semblance of democracy, would overnight turn in a social democratic paradise was and is delusional. It will be a long slog and I believe that east and west Libya which have never had much in common will see a parting of the ways eventually. There was always a element of risk in supporting the rebel forces but the status quo was unsustainable as well, if you do not believe that then you only need to look to Syria.
 
Darla said:
I don't think that antiwar is a misnomer. I certainly identify myself that way. All airstrikes are crimes. Iraq was an occupation that went on for 9 years. I can see why the noise about that was louder. I do agree, again, that some Democrats (mostly on the internet as far as I can tell), have become pro-war in that they are pro-Obama in anything he does. That's a cult of personality. But I haven't seen it too much in real life. Though it's not like I have such a wide circle of people I discuss politics with, so I can only speak of what I have personally witnessed.
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I'm antiwar. But being antiwar comes with responsibility. Being antiwar means that I speak truth it .. regardless of who does it.

There is no question that the silence .. the see-no-evil head-in-the-sand approach that democrats and the left have taken with Obama is due to the fact that he is their guy.

He's also droning planet earth. How did they miss that?

He's murdering innocent people, women children, and babies. How did they miss that?

Have you heard this discussion on MSNBC? Al Sharpton isn't going to say it.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
All three main parties in the UK supported the intervention in Libya on humanitarian grounds. If anybody imagined that Libyan society, which had never known any semblance of democracy, would overnight turn in a social democratic paradise was and is delusional. It will be a long slog and I believe that east and west Libya which have never had much in common will see a parting of the ways eventually. There was always a element of risk in supporting the rebel forces but the status quo was unsustainable as well, if you do not believe that then you only need to look to Syria.
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Seriously unlearned.
 
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