GOP still trying hard to make voting harder?!!

Rana said:
It is hard or a lot of people to get to the DMV, the ones who issue picture IDs in Alaska. Voting is usually within walking distance, so that is why they are able to vote, but our DMV branches aren't in neighborhoods.

If the government offered free rides, I wouldn't object about picture IDs, either.
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Right now, here in Harris County Texas, if you have to go to the DMV to renew your licence, you have to take a day off from work because you WILL spend that much time in line.

Now they want to make those lines REAAAAALLY long by adding all those required to get an ID card to vote?
 
Superfreak said:
I am talking about using a debit or credit card. Many places check for ID to verify the user. You don't need one when getting checks, but you do when you write a check do you not? (again, this may differ in some states)

For Bank Accounts etc... you do need one to open the account now per the patriot act.
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Well, my bank isn't following protocol then, because the kids have accounts and weren't required to have photo IDs.
 
Superfreak said:
Checks, Alcohol, Bank Account, Credit Cards, Debit cards, Employment, tobacco, food stamps, welfare, unemployment etc... all things that require an ID.

Tell us, how do the poor get welfare if they don't have an ID?

This constant excuse that it is too hard to get an ID is bogus. How many students do you think don't have ID's? It is minimal cost ($10 typically) and free to those that are low income (in most states).
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Whoa whoa whoa, not everyone is mr. moneybags. 10 dollars for a lifetime ability to vote? You mean that we need our poor to dedicate one hours worth of income out of the 8300 hours they work in a 4 year period to be able to vote for who will become one of the most powerful people on the planet? Fucking fascist.
 
Superfreak said:
I am talking about using a debit or credit card. Many places check for ID to verify the user. You don't need one when getting checks, but you do when you write a check do you not? (again, this may differ in some states)

For Bank Accounts etc... you do need one to open the account now per the patriot act.
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Writing checks isn't a privilege of being a citizen. The elderly and poor, who are oftentimes the most affected by these rules, live from benefit check to benefit check and don't have checking accounts. They depend on a debit card sent to them by the government*, which doesn't have a photo on it.

*Not really the govt, but a contractor who manages issuance of benefits.

bravo said:
What kind of pinhead doesn't realize that each and every member of the armed forces has a photo ID from day one....
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What kind of pinhead (gawd, I hate childish name calling!, grow the fuck up, ok?) can't read an article?
The voting rights of our men and women in uniform are under attack, and it's time for the Pentagon to take action.

As has been reported for the past few months, there are dozens of efforts to restrict ballot access, both under consideration and already enacted from Pennsylvania to Wisconsin. We know that thousands upon thousands will have their right to vote impeded by these laws. What we don't know, however, is how many men and women in uniform will be among them.

For example, we know in Colorado that many troops would be disenfranchised by the 2011 decision of Secretary of State Scott Gessler to order that no ballots be sent to so-called "inactive voters" -- those voters who did not vote in 2010. We know from news reports that this would disenfranchise 64 active duty troops in one county in Colorado. But there has been no review done on how many troops would be disenfranchised state-wide.

We know that in Missouri, a version of legislation passed through the State House that would eliminate mail-in absentee ballots for all members of the military, who are unable to cast their vote in person. The legislation allows those in combat zones to submit their ballot via fax or email, which can make it nearly impossible for many who are in the field. There is no such provision for those who are stationed at overseas bases, such as in Germany or Korea, or at U.S. bases far away from the state. We know that about 11,000 troops from Missouri voted by absentee ballot in 2008, but there has been no review to determine how many troops potentially would be disenfranchised in 2012.

And in Florida, as the Center for American Progress discovered, we know of at least one case where a veteran was wrongly booted from the voter rolls, in a purge that supposedly was supposed to target non-citizens who are registered. We have no idea how many troops may have been affected by the purge, or if the state has been able to contact any deployed troops who were, to allow them to appeal.

Citizens, lawmakers, and judges who may consider any legal action against these measures should know how many troops each of these efforts would disenfranchise. Yet no comprehensive review of all of these proposed and enacted laws has been done. It must be.
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See? Nowhere in there does it say one word about photo ID, yet there are several examples of voter disenfranchisement. Perhaps you should quit calling others childish names and learn some reading comprehension? Better yet...

Try this forum...it's more age-appropriate for you, mkay?

THE MICKEY MOUSE FORUM < (real forum)
 
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G R I N D said:
The government should only force you to buy things like health insurance.
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Yeah...those pesky Republicans and their health insurance mandate.

Hopefully, if and when Obamacare's repealed, we can replace it with what we really wanted, single payor insurance, without having to capitulate to the Republicans!
 
Sorry Christie, but the "well that's how it's always been hurr in Pennsylvania" isn't going to cut it this time around.
 
Rune said:
Poor people don't have high speed internet Blabo.

Poor Blabo
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callinectes said:
Why does ANYBODY need high speed internet to vote?
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Yeah, I've been wondering the same thing.....and why tell me about it (the internet) ?

I never mentioned it to begin with......

Poor PRune....don't know wtf hes talking about and neither do the rest us.....

Poor, poor, pathetic PRune....
 
G R I N D said:
Whoa whoa whoa, not everyone is mr. moneybags. 10 dollars for a lifetime ability to vote? You mean that we need our poor to dedicate one hours worth of income out of the 8300 hours they work in a 4 year period to be able to vote for who will become one of the most powerful people on the planet? Fucking fascist.
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Getting an original copy of a birth certificate means a trip to the town your birth was registered in plus a $30 fee. A taxi ride to city hall to aply for the poll tax permit alone could cost $20-30. Even the $10 fee itself would be enough to keep some from voting who would have voted if it were still free.

Since when do rights cost money? How much will a free speech permit cost and how many words is it good for?
 
bravo said:
Yeah, I've been wondering the same thing.....and why tell me about it (the internet) ?

I never mentioned it to begin with......

Poor PRune....don't know wtf hes talking about and neither do the rest us.....

Poor, poor, pathetic PRune....
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You said you are poor yet could still afford to vote. I pointed out that you are lying because you have high speed internet, therefore you are not poor.
Then, being too stupid to understand what I was saying, you posted your next moronic post, which I am now responding to. Poor Blabo.
 
Rune said:
Getting an original copy of a birth certificate means a trip to the town your birth was registered in plus a $30 fee. A taxi ride to city hall to aply for the poll tax permit alone could cost $20-30. Even the $10 fee itself would be enough to keep some from voting who would have voted if it were still free.

Since when do rights cost money? How much will a free speech permit cost and how many words is it good for?
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First off, you're exaggerating. But by that logic, should the government also transport people to the polls? After all, if they have to drive or take a taxi to the polling station, that could be considered a "poll tax."
 
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