Conservatives claim "morning after" is "abortive"

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PostmodernProphet said:
I do not believe that is why this drug is used as a morning after pill......if it's use is only to prevent eggs from being fertilized AFTER taking the pill it isn't going to be effective in dealing with eggs previously fertilized.....
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Belief vs science.

You're saying the morning after pill is abortive...and there are other commonly used birth control methods that you consider abortive...ie you're against birth control.
 
Haiku said:
You're saying the morning after pill is abortive...and there are other commonly used birth control methods that you consider abortive...ie you're against birth control.
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no I am against abortion.....the fact you consider abortions a method of birth control doesn't mean I'm against birth control......one of the types of morning after pill is in fact an abortificant.....
 
Haiku said:
Belief vs science.
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just out of curiosity, which part of the following sentence do you believe is contrary to science.....

"if it's use is only to prevent eggs from being fertilized AFTER taking the pill it isn't going to be effective in dealing with eggs previously fertilized".....
 
Haiku said:
Belief vs science.

You're saying the morning after pill is abortive...and there are other commonly used birth control methods that you consider abortive...ie you're against birth control.
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Birth control is an umbrella term for several techniques and methods used to prevent fertilization or to interrupt pregnancy at various stages.

Methods used to prevent fertilization are usually acceptable to most people, even many religious people.

Killing a human being at its earliest stage of life is much different and not as acceptable.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
did you notice how little was going on last night?.....it's like all the board liberals were in hiding because of Wisconsin......I was bored.....
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Pretty funny; I tend to be on here most nights, and it's usually me and about 2-3 other posters. Last night was slamming by comparison.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
no I am against abortion.....the fact you consider abortions a method of birth control doesn't mean I'm against birth control......one of the types of morning after pill is in fact an abortificant.....
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You're being disingenuous at best. Name the methods of birth control you would allow.
 
bravo said:
Birth control is an umbrella term for several techniques and methods used to prevent fertilization or to interrupt pregnancy at various stages.

Methods used to prevent fertilization are usually acceptable to most people, even many religious people.

Killing a human being at its earliest stage of life is much different and not as acceptable.
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We have state laws enacted that start two weeks before any fertilization...I guess they want to be doubly sure eh?
 
Bijou said:
Arizona retards.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/az-abortion-bills-arizona-gestational-age_n_1415715.html
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The Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive health research organization in Washington, said it corresponds with how doctors typically determine gestational age. She said since the exact date of conception cannot be pinpointed, doctors use the day of the woman's last menstrual period to gauge the duration of a pregnancy. The method does not provide an exact date.

Whats the beef.....its how its normally done now and in the past....nothing new, except now it will be in writing.....
 
bravo said:
The Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive health research organization in Washington, said it corresponds with how doctors typically determine gestational age. She said since the exact date of conception cannot be pinpointed, doctors use the day of the woman's last menstrual period to gauge the duration of a pregnancy. The method does not provide an exact date.

Whats the beef.....its how its normally done now and in the past....nothing new, except now it will be in writing.....
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Good boy - open wide and take another big tasty bite of that bullshit sandwich...wash it down with some kool-aid....
 
What forms of birth control would you allow? I'm still waiting....

ANTI-CHOICE ARGUMENT AGAINST MORNING AFTER PILL IS BASED ON OUT-DATED SCIENCE | A primary argument used by anti-abortion activists against the morning after pill — that it flushes an already-fertilized egg from a woman’s body — is actually based on disproved science. The New York Times uncovered today that labels on the packaging of the pills are often incorrect, and reflect old science, saying that the pills prevent implantation of a fertilized egg. But morning after pills, or Plan B as they’re widely known, actually “delay ovulation, the release of eggs from ovaries that occurs before eggs are fertilized, and some pills also thicken cervical mucus so sperm have trouble swimming. …Because they block creation of fertilized eggs, they would not meet abortion opponents’ definition of abortion-inducing drugs.”

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/05/495517/morning-after-pill-abortion-argument-wrong/
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Bijou said:
Good boy - open wide and take another big tasty bite of that bullshit sandwich...wash it down with some kool-aid....
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Well, tell us pinhead.....how was it done before.....who determines the age of a fetus....doctors?

Huffington lies and you slurp.....did someone other than doctors make the determination of how old a fetus was....???
 
I thought that's what the big ass fucking (lay back and enjoy it honey) probe was for....

What forms of birth control would you allow?
 
bravo said:
Well, tell us pinhead.....how was it done before.....who determines the age of a fetus....doctors?

Huffington lies and you slurp.....did someone other than doctors make the determination of how old a fetus was....???
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That's never been in question, has it? No, it hasn't. Nice try changing the subject to suit your sorry-ass excuse for an argument, but you failed again.
 
Doctors made an educated guess to determined the age of the embryo/fetus.....no one could possibly KNOW exactly when the egg was fertilized....
This law sets a definite day to determine the age of the baby....seems like a step forward to me.....

If it bothers you....suggest a change from 20 weeks to 22 weeks mandating a cutoff date....problem solved....

I know you can't help being a fool but you don't be such an asshole too....
 
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the Plan B/"abortion" argument was never based on any science at all. There was never ANY evidence that it interferes with implantation. That claim was entirely made up, partly by speculative analogy with long-term hormonal BC, partly as an outright lie by anti-choicers. Now real scientists are being forced to disprove something there was never evidence for in the first place.
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