hawaii responds to arizona birther sec state

Damocles said:
Again, since you have to ask the same thing in several threads I'll say the same thing.

The law requires a certification or a certification in lieu. Now, if a candidate supplies a certified copy of the original to begin with it would have been unnecessary. He received the required documentation yesterday, so he's done. He simply followed the law.
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He is not saying what he got, I find that suspisous.
 
Jarod said:
He is not saying what he got, I find that suspisous.
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Um, yes he is. He received a certification in lieu of certified copy. He sends an image of what he received, he asks them to certify it. They send a certified document that says they verified the information on the document matches the original, seal and deliver it. Whammo.

What I find "suspicious" is an attorney who can't comprehend what the article said.
 
I only read what you posted, and I did not belive there was a document called... "Certification in lieu"....
 
Jarod said:
I only read what you posted, and I did not belive there was a document called... "Certification in lieu"....
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:rolleyes:

I posted the portion of the article that stated what he received. He even says, "We received" just before he says what they received... Seriously, you are so chock full of nonsense...
 
Damocles said:
:rolleyes:

I posted the portion of the article that stated what he received. He even says, "We received" just before he says what they received... Seriously, you are so chock full of nonsense...
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But what did he recieve? Was it a dcoumnet called "certificate in lieu"? No, you simply cannot understand anything beyond what your limited mind assumes.
 
Jarod said:
But what did he recieve? Was it a dcoumnet called "certificate in lieu"? No, you simply cannot understand anything beyond what your limited mind assumes.
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There is an indication around the words that show it is a title of the document. Once again I am stunned by how much an attorney will pretend to be ignorant of in order to press what he wants you to believe over what is fact. I refuse to believe that you don't understand this, so the only other option is you are purposefully acting this way because you expect other people to be stupid enough to believe you.

He requested a document from them, they sent him the document.
 
Ugh that does not mean its the title of the document. You are often mistaken yet so sure of yourself and quick to call people names!
 
Jarod said:
Ugh that does not mean its the title of the document. You are often mistaken yet so sure of yourself and quick to call people names!
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What name did I "call" you?

I simply pointed out that lawyers would know what a certification in lieu of record is, as they are regularly used in courts...

Here is a copy of one for the appellate court of Illinois, just a quick search and first link type of thing:

http://www.formsworkflow.com/d82004.aspx

It is a document that allows them to certify a record that they cannot by law provide. In this case it is a certified birth certificate.

Now a certification in lieu is a regular term you can find regularly applied in courts... This is why I have an extremely hard time believing that you simply don't know it and are pretending ignorance because you think others will be ignorant and will believe you.

Anyway, here is the copy of that certification. (BTW - It is the Hawaii law that calls it a 'certification in lieu of certified copy' that is direct wording from their law that they copied and pasted from the portion that says that they will provide such to other state government entities in the course of their duties). http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/562865/pdf-verification-in-lieu-of-certified-copy

You will note that the Hawaiian official certifies that the uncertified copy he sent attached with his request matches the original record on file... Which was what was requested.
 
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In all of my years on this site, I have never once seen Gerud make an assumption. Actually speaks volumes about the guy.
 
Jarod said:
But what did he recieve? Was it a document called "certificate in lieu"? No, you simply cannot understand anything beyond what your limited mind assumes.
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Perhaps we're confusing "lieu" and "Lulu". A certificate for Lulu/a gift certificate.
Check out the movement of the gal wih the green top and skirt at the beginning.
 
Damocles said:
What name did I "call" you?

I simply pointed out that lawyers would know what a certification in lieu of record is, as they are regularly used in courts...

Here is a copy of one for the appellate court of Illinois, just a quick search and first link type of thing:

http://www.formsworkflow.com/d82004.aspx

It is a document that allows them to certify a record that they cannot by law provide. In this case it is a certified birth certificate.

Now a certification in lieu is a regular term you can find regularly applied in courts... This is why I have an extremely hard time believing that you simply don't know it and are pretending ignorance because you think others will be ignorant and will believe you.

Anyway, here is the copy of that certification. (BTW - It is the Hawaii law that calls it a 'certification in lieu of certified copy' that is direct wording from their law that they copied and pasted from the portion that says that they will provide such to other state government entities in the course of their duties). http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/562865/pdf-verification-in-lieu-of-certified-copy

You will note that the Hawaiian official certifies that the uncertified copy he sent attached with his request matches the original record on file... Which was what was requested.
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Bigot and LIAR.
 
Damocles said:
What name did I "call" you?

I simply pointed out that lawyers would know what a certification in lieu of record is, as they are regularly used in courts...

Here is a copy of one for the appellate court of Illinois, just a quick search and first link type of thing:

http://www.formsworkflow.com/d82004.aspx

It is a document that allows them to certify a record that they cannot by law provide. In this case it is a certified birth certificate.

Now a certification in lieu is a regular term you can find regularly applied in courts... This is why I have an extremely hard time believing that you simply don't know it and are pretending ignorance because you think others will be ignorant and will believe you.

Anyway, here is the copy of that certification. (BTW - It is the Hawaii law that calls it a 'certification in lieu of certified copy' that is direct wording from their law that they copied and pasted from the portion that says that they will provide such to other state government entities in the course of their duties). http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/562865/pdf-verification-in-lieu-of-certified-copy

You will note that the Hawaiian official certifies that the uncertified copy he sent attached with his request matches the original record on file... Which was what was requested.
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We do not use those in Florida. Sorry, I have never practiced anywhere other than in Florida.
 
Jarod said:
We do not use those in Florida. Sorry, I have never practiced anywhere other than in Florida.
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Interesting...

Here they say you can send a certification in lieu of a record...

In lieu of this written certification, the newly elected or appointed director may submit a certificate of satisfactory completion of the education curriculum administered by a division-approved condominium education provider.
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So that they can meet a requirement to be part of a board of education... in Florida.

http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/lsc/condominiums/boardmembereducation.html
 
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