a case we haven't heard of

Imagine being stopped by a cop, interrogated, accused of being a domestic terrorist all because you were seen taking pictures near the airport. Imagine suddenly being surrounded by a dozen cops, FBI, and homeland security agents because your car was searched without legal probable cause and because the cop found a legally cased and unloaded hunting rifle in the trunk, all according to the laws of that state, that you find yourself arrested and for six hours you were interrogated, taunted, harangued, threatened, belittled, abused, humiliated and harassed by members of the Sheriff’s Office. Now imagine that the ankle injury you suffered earlier in the day is noticed so the sheriff now wants to also charge you with not reporting a knife injury. Your children come to retrieve your purse because it contains a large amount of cash, but they are threatened with arrest if they don't leave.

Now imagine that after the FBI and DHS determine you're not a 'threat', but all your requests for a lawyer are ignored. Imagine that your taken to a medical facility for your ankle injury, but the cops deny you the antibiotics you're prescribed and you develop a staph infection. Imagine being transported to the court for arraignment, hands cuffed behind your back, but not seat belted in the van, so the cops can drive recklessly and laugh about you being tossed about in the back of the van. At the courthouse, the only charge presented to the judge is a misdemeanor of trespass in the third degree, even though you were parked on the side of a public road. Imagine the cops telling the judge that your car was full of surveillance equipment (one camera) and that they believe you are a terrorist, so the judge sets your bail at 50k.

Once back at the jail, the public defender converses with said sheriffs deputy and then tells you he's not going to represent you and he is going to request you be put on suicide watch. the deputy sheriff still handcuffs you, puts you in a holding cell, and determines you're a suicide risk forcing you to be strip searched and forced to wear a 'suicide gown', all while the male deputies insist on watching you, until you can be given an evaluation by a psychiatrist 3 days later. During the three days you wait, a nurse gives you two injections while deputies force your head away and your arms still, without your consent. After the psych eval, you're determined to be not suicidal, you're released, and all charges are dropped.

Imagine the sheriffs office issuing a public press release in response to the media inquiries. In it, the sheriffs office calls you a terrorist, a right wing extremist, and falsely states that you were taking pictures of the airport and surrounding security and that you had 500 rounds of ammunition and 'scary guns' in your vehicle. It also falsely states that you had been removed once and warned to stay away.

your camera memory card is never returned, more than 5k is missing from your purse, and your glove box is empty now.

what would you do if this happened to you?
 
Imagine being stopped by a cop, interrogated, accused of being a domestic terrorist all because you were seen taking pictures near the airport. Imagine suddenly being surrounded by a dozen cops, FBI, and homeland security agents because your car was searched without legal probable cause and because the cop found a legally cased and unloaded hunting rifle in the trunk, all according to the laws of that state, that you find yourself arrested and for six hours you were interrogated, taunted, harangued, threatened, belittled, abused, humiliated and harassed by members of the Sheriff’s Office. Now imagine that the ankle injury you suffered earlier in the day is noticed so the sheriff now wants to also charge you with not reporting a knife injury. Your children come to retrieve your purse because it contains a large amount of cash, but they are threatened with arrest if they don't leave.

Now imagine that after the FBI and DHS determine you're not a 'threat', but all your requests for a lawyer are ignored. Imagine that your taken to a medical facility for your ankle injury, but the cops deny you the antibiotics you're prescribed and you develop a staph infection. Imagine being transported to the court for arraignment, hands cuffed behind your back, but not seat belted in the van, so the cops can drive recklessly and laugh about you being tossed about in the back of the van. At the courthouse, the only charge presented to the judge is a misdemeanor of trespass in the third degree, even though you were parked on the side of a public road. Imagine the cops telling the judge that your car was full of surveillance equipment (one camera) and that they believe you are a terrorist, so the judge sets your bail at 50k.

Once back at the jail, the public defender converses with said sheriffs deputy and then tells you he's not going to represent you and he is going to request you be put on suicide watch. the deputy sheriff still handcuffs you, puts you in a holding cell, and determines you're a suicide risk forcing you to be strip searched and forced to wear a 'suicide gown', all while the male deputies insist on watching you, until you can be given an evaluation by a psychiatrist 3 days later. During the three days you wait, a nurse gives you two injections while deputies force your head away and your arms still, without your consent. After the psych eval, you're determined to be not suicidal, you're released, and all charges are dropped.

Imagine the sheriffs office issuing a public press release in response to the media inquiries. In it, the sheriffs office calls you a terrorist, a right wing extremist, and falsely states that you were taking pictures of the airport and surrounding security and that you had 500 rounds of ammunition and 'scary guns' in your vehicle. It also falsely states that you had been removed once and warned to stay away.

your camera memory card is never returned, more than 5k is missing from your purse, and your glove box is empty now.

what would you do if this happened to you?

I know what I would do. I'd send a PM to SmarterthanYou and ask him for advice. :)
 
-the cops in the hamptons are notorious assholes.

-I don't believe parts of her story. I lol'd at the idea that the sheriff was mocking teabggers. Pure right wing persecution fantasy.

-I believe some of her story but I'd need to hear their side

-I can't help finding it funny. Sorry, here is a right winger riding around long island with a gun (glad there's one of less of them) taking pics ay the airport to post on her support the troops site. Lol. Well everyone in ny knows post 9 11 you don't stand outside an airport taking pics. Someone like her would fully support them if they had shot a young Arab male for doing the same. She thought she was immune cause she's white. Because she's right. Because she's a real American. Life lesson right there.
 
Imagine being stopped by a cop, interrogated, accused of being a domestic terrorist...Your children come to retrieve your purse because it contains a large amount of cash, but they are threatened with arrest if they don't leave.. more than 5k is missing from your purse...

I didn't realize that SmarterThanFew carried a purse.
 
-the cops in the hamptons are notorious assholes.

-I don't believe parts of her story. I lol'd at the idea that the sheriff was mocking teabggers. Pure right wing persecution fantasy.

-I believe some of her story but I'd need to hear their side
would you believe the law enforcement side over her side?

-I can't help finding it funny. Sorry, here is a right winger riding around long island with a gun (glad there's one of less of them) taking pics ay the airport to post on her support the troops site. Lol. Well everyone in ny knows post 9 11 you don't stand outside an airport taking pics. Someone like her would fully support them if they had shot a young Arab male for doing the same. She thought she was immune cause she's white. Because she's right. Because she's a real American. Life lesson right there.
first, did she actually break any law? second, you pulled the race card on a white woman, so i guess we can just go ahead and conclude that you don't give a shit about the rights of whites at all.

Did she break a law? apparently not since charges were dismissed, but since she had a gun, stored and locked per the law, that makes it ok to you what she went through?????
 
would you believe the law enforcement side over her side?

first, did she actually break any law? second, you pulled the race card on a white woman, so i guess we can just go ahead and conclude that you don't give a shit about the rights of whites at all.

Did she break a law? apparently not since charges were dismissed, but since she had a gun, stored and locked per the law, that makes it ok to you what she went through?????

She almost def was trespassing. You don't know jack shit. Around here there are clear signs posted even around local small airports, and all parking lots and pull over spots where we used to sit and watch planes take off are of limits. She knew it . She thought it meant except to white right real Americans.

You bet I want cops taking notice of someone with a gun and a crazy amont of cash trespassing and taking pics of our airports. I fly out of those.

Now as to her other charges, based on the right wing rant you posted a link to, I don't have enough info to form an opinion. I will prob check this out in newsday though and see if there is further info available.
 

Actually in ny what she did would almost def be trespassing and there are very clear signs posted. I believe that post 911 there is also a law against photographing national landmarks, bridges and airports.

I will have to check that. I'm also going to check the airport this happened at, if it's the one I think I could post pics of the signs. I know for a fact they are there. You know, if I was stupid enough to happy ass around photographing airport signs in ny. Which I'm not.
 
She almost def was trespassing. You don't know jack shit. Around here there are clear signs posted even around local small airports, and all parking lots and pull over spots where we used to sit and watch planes take off are of limits. She knew it . She thought it meant except to white right real Americans.
then why was the charge dismissed? i'm thinking YOU don't know jack shit.

You bet I want cops taking notice of someone with a gun and a crazy amont of cash trespassing and taking pics of our airports. I fly out of those.
the ends justify the means? she was stopped with no reasonable suspicion because photography is not a crime. Her car was searched without probable cause, but because they found a gun locked in a case in the trunk (all according to the law, mind you) you're ok with her rights being violated. In essence, despite your earlier claims that as long as gun owners abided by all the laws, you were ok with guns....you were lying. Do you also then approve of the racial profiling the NYPD does with their 'stop and frisk' program as long as they find guns?

Now as to her other charges, based on the right wing rant you posted a link to, I don't have enough info to form an opinion. I will prob check this out in newsday though and see if there is further info available.
you prefer your own biased media. I get it. you're a lying liberal bitch who only cares about the rights of liberals. all others can go to hell. you're a total fucking hypocrite.
 
Actually in ny what she did would almost def be trespassing and there are very clear signs posted. I believe that post 911 there is also a law against photographing national landmarks, bridges and airports.

I will have to check that. I'm also going to check the airport this happened at, if it's the one I think I could post pics of the signs. I know for a fact they are there. You know, if I was stupid enough to happy ass around photographing airport signs in ny. Which I'm not.
you check that, but since several FEDERAL (remember, you LOVE that strong federal government) courts have ruled that public photography is protected by the FIRST AMENDMENT, any sign isn't going to be supported by the law.

so you should just admit that you're a loser liberal hypocrite that really doesn't give a fuck about anyones rights but your own.
 
Yes I did look it up, its not illegal, but the Tsa and other agencies have, since 911 asked citizens to report any photographing of national landmarks, airports etc. and in ny they closed off all side roads, and little spots people used to park in to watch planes take off. Again there are clear signs. She was trespassing, they had enough to take her in. They dropped the charges because it's a minor charge and when they found nothing else on her, they let her go.


Again, I fully support the cops taking notice of people trespassing around airports. Good work on their part. Once again since you posted to a right wing rant there is no way to judge the veracity of any of her other claims. You believe them because you'll swallow anything that fits your agenda. You have no evidence and you know it. Further, even if everything happened exactly as she claimed, she still was rightfully taken in and she had to know whe was trespassing. We are not talking about one sign here. If she was abused after her arrest, the cops responsible should be fired. But that wouldn't change the fact they have every right to arrest her.

And nice that you just called me a bitch. I misjudged you. I've said you were decent because you debate without that shit. Ends up you're just another right wing scumbag. Surprising? Actually no. I was surprised when I thought you weren't. Have a nice night sty.

And thanks for the story. I still think its funny. Wish I could have seen her face. "but but it's for the troops". That's awesome.
 
Oh sty, I just read the entire debacle at newsday, that's my local paper. The cops' story differs from hers greatly. But there's going to be a trial this summer. Lol. Of course you're not asking anyone to wait for the facts to come out at the trial. You have the nerve to call anyone a hypocrite. You are the biggest one. You not only swallow every story you hear about every cop, you demand,DEMAND everyone swallow it too. With zero evidence. And you flounce your skirt up and have a hissy fit if anyone says, um, any evidence?

You're too funny. Thank god you live in texass. If you ever come to ny don't go walking around airports with your guns. Consider that friendly advice. Better yet, stay in texass.
 
Btw for others reading his crap, it's not just the cops. The air national guard called the cops and they claim they warned her on previous occasions to get out. Theres some reporting that she had FEMA conspiracy theory shit in her myspace and thought that the airport was a FEMA camp. I don't know of any evidence of that yet.

But this will all come out at the trial. Yeah there's quite a bit more than mr outrage wants you to know. He def doesn't want you to know the air national guard says they kicked her out and warned her on several previous occasions. Honestly I am more convinced they made a mistake letting this one go. But let's see what the trial reveals.
 
what was the injury to her ankle from. by the way

however, taking pictures around airports or military/government facilities is an automatic arrest on suspicion of terrorism - you mention no laws broken but what about the usa patriot act (which i oppose)

i do find it suspicious that all charges were later dropped
 
Yes I did look it up, its not illegal, but the Tsa and other agencies have, since 911 asked citizens to report any photographing of national landmarks, airports etc. and in ny they closed off all side roads, and little spots people used to park in to watch planes take off. Again there are clear signs. She was trespassing, they had enough to take her in. They dropped the charges because it's a minor charge and when they found nothing else on her, they let her go.
they dropped the charge because she committed no crime. stop being a hypocritical dumbass.

Again, I fully support the cops taking notice of people trespassing around airports. Good work on their part. Once again since you posted to a right wing rant there is no way to judge the veracity of any of her other claims. You believe them because you'll swallow anything that fits your agenda. You have no evidence and you know it. Further, even if everything happened exactly as she claimed, she still was rightfully taken in and she had to know whe was trespassing. We are not talking about one sign here. If she was abused after her arrest, the cops responsible should be fired. But that wouldn't change the fact they have every right to arrest her.
she committed no crime. the police had no right to arrest her, much less detain her. stop being a hypocritical dumbass.

And nice that you just called me a bitch. I misjudged you. I've said you were decent because you debate without that shit. Ends up you're just another right wing scumbag. Surprising? Actually no. I was surprised when I thought you weren't. Have a nice night sty.
ends up you're just another hypocritical lying dumbass. you're nothing but a statist authoritarian, more afraid of your fellow citizens than you are of jack booted thugs who kill innocent people and lie to the media about it. you swallow that shit up like the kool aid from democrats. that makes you worthless.

And thanks for the story. I still think its funny. Wish I could have seen her face. "but but it's for the troops". That's awesome.
thanks for making it clear that you're just a hypocrite. We can now safely qualify all liberals as hypocrites.
 
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