Young doctors being asked to play God

Besides the comment about this week being a "Pearl Harbor" moment, the highlighted statement below struck me as the right thing to do:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/05/politics/jerome-adams-coronavirus/index.html
The US surgeon general said this week is going to be the "hardest and the saddest" for "most Americans' lives," describing the upcoming grim period of the coronavirus pandemic in the United States as a "Pearl Harbor moment" and a "9/11 moment."

"This is going to be our Pearl Harbor moment, our 9/11 moment, only it's not going to be localized, it's going to be happening all over the country and I want America to understand that," Vice Admiral Jerome Adams said on "Fox News Sunday."...

...When asked about the President's promotion of hydroxychloroquine as a way to treat Covid-19 despite a lack of firm evidence that it's safe to do so, Adams said the drug should be available as a last-resort option for extremely ill patients.

"When people are in a tragic situation ... we want them to be able to have a conversation with their health care provider about everything that they could possibly do to save their lives," he said Sunday.

"We feel a little bit better about its safety than a completely novel drug."
 
Dutch Uncle said:
This looks like combat triage.

Coronavirus: The young doctors being asked to play god

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52137160

"The most anxiety I have is around ventilator allocation. Seeing people die is not the issue. We're trained to deal with death. Nor is it the volume of people dying. The issue is giving up on people we wouldn't normally give up on." She described a patient being brought in from an old people's home. He was already on a ventilator - and was "chronically vent dependent". His prospects were never great. But all she could see before her was the ventilator - and not the patient.
"When he came in we were so desperate for vents," she told me, "all I wanted to do was get the ventilator off him. I wanted to get that vent off him to allow it to go to someone else."
Playing god is not what this young woman thought she would be doing at this stage in her career.
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Then why don't you go pray.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
This looks like combat triage.

Coronavirus: The young doctors being asked to play god

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52137160

"The most anxiety I have is around ventilator allocation. Seeing people die is not the issue. We're trained to deal with death. Nor is it the volume of people dying. The issue is giving up on people we wouldn't normally give up on." She described a patient being brought in from an old people's home. He was already on a ventilator - and was "chronically vent dependent". His prospects were never great. But all she could see before her was the ventilator - and not the patient.
"When he came in we were so desperate for vents," she told me, "all I wanted to do was get the ventilator off him. I wanted to get that vent off him to allow it to go to someone else."
Playing god is not what this young woman thought she would be doing at this stage in her career.
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What about the incompetent sociopath who called it a Democratic hoax, and kept his head buried in his deep dark cavity for at least two month, and did not prepare for the pandemic, and put these people in this situation, Pin Head????????????????????
 
Trumpet said:
What about the incompetent sociopath who called it a Democratic hoax, and kept his head buried in his deep dark cavity for at least two month, and did not prepare for the pandemic, and put these people in this situation, Pin Head????????????????????
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First, Trump is clearly a fucking moron. I'm on record saying that repeatedly.

Second, calling me a "Pin Head" puts you on the same level as CFM, Legion, Dark Soul and other self-serving assholes.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I'm not following what you are trying to say.

Are you saying the Socialists who tried to socialize medicine?
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Why not socialize Lawyers? I need Lawyer insurance.

Why not socialize Politicians? I need Politician insurance.

Got arrested? Why not socialize arrests? I need arrest insurance.

Why not socialize whores? I need whore insurance.

Once upon a time...
The dream of becoming a doctor
"I always knew that after I became a doctor,
I would dump whoever I was with and
find someone better."

Now a doctor is reduced to a pawn; an intellectual; an influencer who knows too much for his own good.

Why not socialize Food? I need Food insurance.

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The Codex Alimentarius is a collection of internationally recognized standards,
codes of practice, guidelines, and other recommendations relating to foods, food production, and food safety.

The Codex Alimentarius has been the subject of various conspiracy theories. These accuse it of being an agenda for population control, an anti-supplement Big Brother initiative, of actually implementing eugenics, or a process for World Government establishment.[7]
The controversy over the Codex Alimentarius relates to a perception that it is a mandatory standard for the safety of food, including vitamin and mineral supplements. Supporters of the Codex Alimentarius say that it is a voluntary reference standard for food and that there is no obligation on countries to adopt Codex standards as a member of either Codex or any other international trade organization. From the point of view of its opponents, however, one of the main causes of concern is that the Codex Alimentarius is recognized by the World Trade Organization as an international reference standard for the resolution of disputes concerning food safety and consumer protection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alimentarius

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DYK there are three different grades of Vitamins:
Pharmaceutical Grade - meets pharmaceutical standards
Food Grade - meets standards set for human consumption
Feed Grade - meets standards set for animal consumption

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DYK about pharmaceuticals made from petroleum

Many over-the-counter (OTC) and prescription drugs and medicinal products
are made with the help of petrochemicals—these include antihistamines,
antibacterials, suppositories, cough syrups, lubricants, creams, ointments, salves, analgesics and gels.
Nov 23, 2019

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How many products are made from petroleum?
6,000 products
It is estimated that currently more than 6,000 products are made from oil and gas.
Clothing is just one part of our lives in which oil and gas plays a part. In fact,
there are literally thousands of products made from oil and gas, many of which you probably use every day.


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Are pharmaceuticals petroleum based?
Petroleum is used widely in health care—primarily as a transport fuel and feedstock for pharmaceuticals, plastics, and medical supplies—and few substitutes for it are available. ... Modern medicine relies on petroleum, particularly to transport patients, staff, and supplies, and to manufacture supplies and pharmaceuticals.

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Pharmaceutical industry in China - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org
In addition, Chinese companies can produce generic versions of branded drugs
for a fraction of their price. Of the 3,000 pharmaceuticals -
not including traditional medicines - manufactured in China since the 1950s,
99 percent are copies of foreign products, as are almost 90 percent of China's biotech products.
 
bhaktajan said:
Why not socialize Lawyers? I need Lawyer insurance.

Why not socialize Politicians? I need Politician insurance.

Got arrested? Why not socialize arrests? I need arrest insurance.

Why not socialize whores? I need whore insurance.

Once upon a time...
The dream of becoming a doctor
"I always knew that after I became a doctor,
I would dump whoever I was with and
find someone better."

Now a doctor is reduced to a pawn; an intellectual; an influencer who knows too much for his own good.

Why not socialize Food? I need Food insurance.

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

The Codex Alimentarius is a collection of internationally recognized standards,
codes of practice, guidelines, and other recommendations relating to foods, food production, and food safety.

The Codex Alimentarius has been the subject of various conspiracy theories. These accuse it of being an agenda for population control, an anti-supplement Big Brother initiative, of actually implementing eugenics, or a process for World Government establishment.[7]
The controversy over the Codex Alimentarius relates to a perception that it is a mandatory standard for the safety of food, including vitamin and mineral supplements. Supporters of the Codex Alimentarius say that it is a voluntary reference standard for food and that there is no obligation on countries to adopt Codex standards as a member of either Codex or any other international trade organization. From the point of view of its opponents, however, one of the main causes of concern is that the Codex Alimentarius is recognized by the World Trade Organization as an international reference standard for the resolution of disputes concerning food safety and consumer protection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alimentarius

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
DYK there are three different grades of Vitamins:
Pharmaceutical Grade - meets pharmaceutical standards
Food Grade - meets standards set for human consumption
Feed Grade - meets standards set for animal consumption

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

DYK about pharmaceuticals made from petroleum

Many over-the-counter (OTC) and prescription drugs and medicinal products
are made with the help of petrochemicals—these include antihistamines,
antibacterials, suppositories, cough syrups, lubricants, creams, ointments, salves, analgesics and gels.
Nov 23, 2019

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

How many products are made from petroleum?
6,000 products
It is estimated that currently more than 6,000 products are made from oil and gas.
Clothing is just one part of our lives in which oil and gas plays a part. In fact,
there are literally thousands of products made from oil and gas, many of which you probably use every day.


MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Are pharmaceuticals petroleum based?
Petroleum is used widely in health care—primarily as a transport fuel and feedstock for pharmaceuticals, plastics, and medical supplies—and few substitutes for it are available. ... Modern medicine relies on petroleum, particularly to transport patients, staff, and supplies, and to manufacture supplies and pharmaceuticals.

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Pharmaceutical industry in China - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org
In addition, Chinese companies can produce generic versions of branded drugs
for a fraction of their price. Of the 3,000 pharmaceuticals -
not including traditional medicines - manufactured in China since the 1950s,
99 percent are copies of foreign products, as are almost 90 percent of China's biotech products.
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Sorry, dude, but most of that came across as Jabberwocky on Acid to me.
 
The triage situation is here along with Trump's Death Panels:

This is just the beginning: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coronavirus/article244443257.html
Now Starr County is at a dangerous “tipping point,” reporting an alarming number of new cases each day, data show. Starr County Memorial Hospital — the county’s only hospital — is overflowing with COVID-19 patients.

The county has been forced to form what is being compared to a so-called “death panel.” A county health board – which governs Starr Memorial – is set to authorize critical care guidelines Thursday that will help medical workers determine ways to allocate scarce medical resources on patients with the best chance to survive.

A committee will deem which COVID-19 patients are likely to die and send them home with family, Jose Vasquez, the county health authority, said during a news conference Tuesday.

“The situation is desperate,” Vasquez said. “We cannot continue functioning in the Starr County Memorial Hospital nor in our county in the way that things are going. The numbers are staggering.”
 
Dutch Uncle said:
This looks like combat triage.

Coronavirus: The young doctors being asked to play god

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52137160

"The most anxiety I have is around ventilator allocation. Seeing people die is not the issue. We're trained to deal with death. Nor is it the volume of people dying. The issue is giving up on people we wouldn't normally give up on." She described a patient being brought in from an old people's home. He was already on a ventilator - and was "chronically vent dependent". His prospects were never great. But all she could see before her was the ventilator - and not the patient.
"When he came in we were so desperate for vents," she told me, "all I wanted to do was get the ventilator off him. I wanted to get that vent off him to allow it to go to someone else."
Playing god is not what this young woman thought she would be doing at this stage in her career.
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How would you know what "Combat triage" looks like? Curious.



Don't try to describe a Kiss concert if you've never seen it -Jimmy Buffet
 
Bull&Terrier said:
How would you know what "Combat triage" looks like? Curious.
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Still digging for personal info, stalker? Isn't that what got you in trouble in the first place, inmate?

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