What JPP conservatives are failing to see

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If you were still harboring naïve notions of free and fair elections when DEMOCRATS are involved, perhaps this will help disabuse you of those fantasies.


A prominent DEMOCRAT lawyer who represented Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign [Marc Elias] is threatening to sue the state of Nevada unless it immediately suspends prosecutions for ballot harvesting before the June 9 primary, among a slew of other demands.

Writing on April 10 to Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, Elias first took aim at Nevada Revised Statutes section 293.330(4), which prohibits ballot harvesting and permits only certain individuals, like family members, to return ballots.

Ballot harvesting, or the practice of allowing political operatives and others to collect voters' ballots and turn them in en masse to polling stations, has drawn bipartisan concerns of fraud from election watchers.

  • "We ask that your office and the office of the Nevada Attorney General immediately announce a suspension of prosecutions under this statute for all elections for which mail-in balloting will be the primary means of voting in the state," Elias said.
  • At the same time, Elias called for Nevada to stop throwing out ballots when signatures on voters' ballots appear different from those on voters' registrations, saying "lay election officials have never had the necessary expertise" to make an accurate determination.

Ballot-harvesting is a crime (except in California), forbidden due to the inherent opportunities for fraud, intimidation, and outright manufacture of votes.

The DEMOCRATS tried to legalize ballot-harvesting in the last stimulus go-round, but thankfully, they were caught and prevented from doing so. Now, they are trying again.

Worse still, Elias's threats also seek to force Nevada to send a ballot to all registered voters, regardless of whether a voter requested a ballot or not.

As you'll see, Nevada is merely the target du jour.

The same will be expected of all 50 states before November 3, 2020.



https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/stealing_the_election_in_plain_sight.html
 
I see it. I can't stop it at the state level. That is federalism.

As long as the feds stay out, it is what it is
 
I see it. I can't stop it at the state level. That is federalism.

As long as the feds stay out, it is what it is

You can stop it at the state level. That is the only place to stop it.

Contact your state legislators and county election officials to express your opposition. Do it often.

Do not hand the nation's elections over to DEMOCRATS without a fight.
 
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The coronavirus pandemic, which has led most states to shut down almost all aspects of social and economic life, is also raising questions about what life will look like by the time the general election rolls around in November.

The public got a preview of what voting in the age of the coronavirus looks like during the Wisconsin primary election. Only five of the city's 180 polling places were open.

Analysis by the Blue York Crimes after Wisconsin's election this month did find that the RAT judicial candidate benefited significantly from mail-in voting.

With the mandatory closure of schools and businesses nationwide because of fears about spreading the coronavirus, universal access to voting by mail-in ballot has become a mainstream issue.

"Voters have already been forced to choose between their health and casting their ballot," said Sean Eldridge, the founder and president of progressive advocacy group Stand Up America, in a conference call with reporters last week. "We must prepare our voting systems both for the upcoming primaries and the general elections this fall."

Alaska, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Ohio and Wyoming each canceled their in-person primaries in favor of allowing all residents to vote by mail.

Delaware, Georgia, Indiana, Maryland and Pennsylvania are allowing any voter to send in an absentee ballot.

Although red states and blue states have taken measures to expand vote-by-mail, there is hardly bipartisan consensus on the issue.

Five states currently conduct elections almost entirely by vote-by-mail: Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah, and Washington. Utah is a reliably Republican state, and Oregon and Washington both have Republican secretaries of state.

The pandemic PANIC is an extenuating factor for some Republicans, important enough to make vote-by-mail a more viable option for some.

Maryland's GOP governor, Larry Hogan, urged voters to cast absentee ballots due to concerns about the virus, and Republican Governor Chris Sununu, of New Hampshire, announced that voters would be allowed to cite the virus as an excuse to cast a mail-in ballot in November.

Ohio Governor Mike DeWine and Secretary of State Frank LaRose, both Republicans, appeared in a video encouraging citizens to vote by mail.

Stand Up America and Fair Fight Action were among several advocacy groups that sent an open letter to Congress earlier this month asking for lawmakers to include $4 billion in "election assistance funding" in the next coronavirus relief package.

Marc Elias, the chairman of Perkins Coie's Political Law Group, represents the RAT National Committee and the RAT Party of Wisconsin.

Elias told See-BS News that Congress had the authority to fundamentally change how the country votes in federal elections.

Elias told See-BS News that Congress could implement mandatory voter registration and require that every voter receive an absentee ballot.

Nattering Nancy Pelosi and Swinish Schumer told reporters on Tuesday that they want to include election assistance in the next coronavirus relief package.

RATS Fat Amy Klobuchar and Ron Wyden have sponsored a bill to require every state to make its citizens to vote by mail, and to expand early voting.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vote-by-mail-gains-traction-coronavirus-pandemic/
 
You can stop it at the state level. That is the only place to stop it.

Contact your state legislators and county election officials to express your opposition. Do it often.

Do not hand the nation's elections over to DEMOCRATS without a fight.

I have been all over it bro. I am busy cleaning up voter rolls now :)
 
I know, the key is to make ballot harvesting illegal. I get it my friend

I know you do.

Ballot harvesting was made legal in California before Orange County mysteriously turned Blue.

The plan is to make it legal in all 50 states.

Conservatives in every state need to step up and speak out.

Too many conservatives think President Trump, the GOP majority in the Senate, or the Supreme Court will do the heavy lifting for them.

They won't. They can't.

State legislatures and local election officials run elections.
 
Great, another opinion piece from the "American Thinker"

As I've asked numerous times, if mail in voting is such a disaster why is it five States including ruby red Utah have been doing it with minor issues and another dozen including some red States have it scheduled it for this Fall?

Couple of facts here, first, umpteen studies have been done showing it is not a problem, second, we have six months to iron out potential problems, third, it has been Mitch's GOP that has done its best not to secure the next election which makes this supposed concern suspect, and lastly, in States as Florida, mail in voting would benefit the GOP, their base being the OBG's in Central Florida

As with the "American Thinker," we are always going to see these individual "disclosures" and supposed proof generalized to create a false equivalency to what the reality shows, mail in voting does not present a threat to voter participation nor guarantee fraud
 
There is a movement afoot to junk in-person voting, the manner by which the vast majority of American ballots have been cast since before the American Revolution.

The radicals behind this, aided by Nancy Pelosi at the federal level, and echoed by DEMOCRAT elected officials in a number of states, are using the pandemic panic as cover for bald-faced partisan skullduggery.

They’re exploiting the pandemic to instill fear in our electoral process, forcing a solution for a problem that doesn’t exist — namely, that people shouldn't be able to got to the polls because of the coronavirus.

This is a patently false assumption, as other countries have learned in similar crises.

And, it was not the case in America in 1918 during the outbreak of Spanish Flu pandemic.

Transparently, the motive behind junking in-person voting this November is that liberals believe doing so will help them win.

Pelosi even tried to hold America hostage with a wish-list of long-standing electioneering aims, including same-day voter registration, legalized “ballot harvesting,” and mandatory early mail-in voting.

Fortunately, Congress stymied that scheme.

Had Pelosi gotten her way, states would effectively have been forced to abandon the common-sense measures they currently have in place, which prevent fraudulent voting, while extending the 2020 elections from one day to a month-long process.

Political strategists on the left believe this will help them defeat President Trump, regain the majority in the Senate, and keep Pelosi Speaker.

Despite Pelosi’s setback on Capitol Hill, the left’s crusade to radically transform the very nature of the coming elections continues unabated, with liberal activist groups trying to advance Pelosi’s fumble.

The partisan motives behind these recent electoral “reform” proposals, along with the manifest opportunities for voter fraud and coercion they present — such as giving partisan activists absolute control over physical ballots — are reason enough to oppose them.

But there’s another glaring issue that’s worth pointing out: contrary to their proponents’ efforts to present them as a necessary concession to the coronavirus pandemic, new voting procedures are clearly unnecessary from a public health perspective.

The United States has the world’s most mature and developed democratic system and an extraordinary amount of resources to tackle the problems the coronavirus creates. This pandemic isn’t even uncharted ground.

The bipartisan International Foundation for Electoral Systems (IFES), has been involved in similar situations before around the globe. While IFES is not involved in domestic elections, it is recognized internationally as a leader in election administration.

In 2014, as the Ebola virus raged in West Africa, the country of Liberia was slated to hold a crucial election.

Some argued that in-person voting should be suspended, but that could have thrown the legitimacy of the results into question due to the possibility of widespread fraud.

Instead, IFES was able to help develop protocols for voters and poll workers that kept them safe while allowing Liberians to participate in a free, fair, and in-person election.

That was the right call in Liberia.

Maintaining electoral continuity almost always is. If the rules of the game are allowed to change at the last minute — especially in a way that seems to benefit one political party over its opposition — democracy itself is cheapened and de-legitimized.

If Liberia was able to safely hold an in-person election amidst a Ebola outbreak, there is no reason we cannot do so here in the United States.



https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/ken-blackwell/dont-let-democrats-exploit-covid-19-rig-election

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DEMOCRATS miraculously triple turnout after switch to mail-only voting

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Kansas DEMOCRATS have already more than tripled their turnout from the 2016 presidential caucus after switching to an all-mail May 2 party primary this year.

As of Monday evening, the party had processed 138,430 ballots compared to a turnout of 39,266 voters in 2016, when caucus goers went for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders over former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

The spike in turnout occurred despite Sanders dropping out this month and endorsing former Vice President Joe Biden, the party’s presumptive nominee.

Kansas FEMOCRAT Party Chair Vicki Hiatt credited the massive upswing to "strong voter interest" and the decision to switch to an all-mail primary in the face of the COVID-19 pandemic.


https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article242340181.html
 
Ballot harvesting is ripe for fraud -you give your ballot to a 3rd Party.
And it's COMPLETELY UN NECESSARY -just mail the dang thing in yourself
 
Ballot harvesting is ripe for fraud -you give your ballot to a 3rd Party.
And it's COMPLETELY UN NECESSARY -just mail the dang thing in yourself

Ballot harvesting was what the Republicans did in NC-09 in 2018.

So Conservatives say election fraud exists, then get caught doing it themselves.
 
Ballot harvesting was what the Republicans did in NC-09 in 2018.

So Conservatives say election fraud exists, then get caught doing it themselves.
you don't cite -but OK.
It needs to stay illegal. it's a terrible threat to ballot security
 
you don't cite -but OK. It needs to stay illegal. it's a terrible threat to ballot security

Yet RATS argue for the very method they say is illegal cheating.



RATS AIM TO STEAL THE NATIONAL ELECTION JUST LIKE THEY DID IN CALIFORNIA


California’s AB 1921, signed into law by Gov. Moonbeam Brown in September 2016, says: “A vote by mail voter who is unable to return the ballot may designate any person to return the ballot to the elections official from whom it came or to the precinct board at a polling place within the jurisdiction. The ballot must, however, be received by either the elections official from whom it came or the precinct board before the close of the polls on election day.”

A watchdog group voiced concerns about how this would play out before the bill was ever passed: "AB 1921 would allow anybody to walk into an elections office and hand over truckloads of vote by mail envelopes with ballots inside, no questions asked, no verified records kept. It amounts to an open invitation to large-scale vote buying, voter coercion, “granny farming”, and automated forgery".



https://www.redstate.com/mirandamorales/2018/10/16/ca-dem-party-sinking-new-lows-harvest-absentee-ballots/
 
you don't cite -but OK.

You can't Google it? Or you can, but are just lazy...

Last Of 5 Charged In NC-09 Ballot Fraud Meets Officials
https://www.wunc.org/post/last-5-charged-nc-09-ballot-fraud-meets-officials


It needs to stay illegal. it's a terrible threat to ballot security

Conservative says ballot harvesting is illegal, yet Conservatives have been the ones to illegally harvest ballots.

The problem isn't ballot harvesting, the problem is Conservatism.
 
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