Weekly numbers In Florida are in and it's a disaster

We all agree that everyone has to do their part to eradicate Covid. Our disagreement is the degree of government involvement in our personal lives.
 
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There is a difference between laws for public heath and safety and forcing people to don protective equipment regardless of their compliance with previous recommended actions.

What is the difference?


Would you support fines and possible imprisonment for anyone not wearing a mask and gloves and proof of been vaccinated?

Yes.


Sorry but I don't trust government not to overstep it's boundaries in the name of public safety.

Why?

Would you rather die of a COVID variant? If so, then I would encourage you to not wait for the variant and just kill yourself right now.
 
We all agree that everyone has to do their part to eradicate Covid. Our disagreement is the degree of government involvement.

Well, we've tried things your way since January and it didn't work, obviously.

We treated people of bad faith with kid gloves and they predictably took advantage of that.

So what do you think we should do?
 
I suspect you along with my friend Owl let's your dislike for DeSantis influence your judgement.
I’m sorry you feel that way. I think you have misjudged both of us. I think we’d both feel the same way about a Democrat not listening to their local authorities.
 
Hello Phantasmal,

It’s like saying business will regulate themselves, oh, if it were only true! But, it isn’t. It’s unfortunate we need big brother. I wish all citizens were responsible, but they aren’t. It why we have prisons. It’s why we can’t have nice things ;)

If society is best when people are allowed to handle things themselves, then society would not need government at all.

The dangers are clear and present, so an effective government is needed.

The people who complain the most about government are the reason there needs to be a government in the first place!
 
Which is only a problem for unvaccinated people.
and around it goes.

Im supposed to wear a mask ( which doesnt protect ME) to stop the spread to the unvaxxed?
Is there even a remote possibility the unvaxxed haven't been exposed to COVID already? no.

masks are anti-social, we rely on facial expressions as much as words in day to day conversations

and to make kids wear masks is dumb, and injurious

But St. Fauci/NIH dont care about all that -all they have is "mask up"
 
Im supposed to wear a mask ( which doesnt protect ME) to stop the spread to the unvaxxed?

Yes.


Is there even a remote possibility the unvaxxed haven't been exposed to COVID already? no.

Exposure and contraction are two different things.

For example, 40,000 people were exposed to COVID in China, and Trump brought them into the US without any testing, screening, tracing, or quarantine.

Those 40,000 people may or may not have contracted the disease, but they were certainly exposed to it.

You brainiacs thought it would be a smart idea to ban travel from China except for the 40,000 COVID-exposed Americans Trump created loopholes for.

Those 40,000 COVID-exposed people probably did more to spread COVID around the country than anything else at the start.
 
masks are anti-social, we rely on facial expressions as much as words in day to day conversations

Then don't wear one, don't let your family wear one, don't your friends (if you have any) wear one.

Grab them from those folks and burn them.

Do it.

And when you do it, make it a big family event, so invite all your family to it, hug and kiss each other, share cups and glasses, cough in each other's mouths, sniff each other's butts, just do what you barnyard animals would do if there wasn't a pandemic.

It's going to kill SOMEONE, so I'm encouraging you to do that so it kills people who would vote Republican.
 
and to make kids wear masks is dumb, and injurious

Then I fully support your choice to be around the kids in your family without a mask.

Just be sure to get really close to them, hold them close to you so they know you'll always protect them.

Whisper it in their ears, to their faces...really push your breath through to make sure it bathes them in your protective glow.

I am investing in baby coffins, so the shit you're saying is really gonna benefit me down the road.
 
I’m sorry you feel that way. I think you have misjudged both of us. I think we’d both feel the same way about a Democrat not listening to their local authorities.

I thoroughly dislike Biden and I have to force myself to try to be objective when I evaluate his policies and actions. That is why I said what I said.
 
I thoroughly dislike Biden and I have to force myself to try to be objective when I evaluate his policies and actions. That is why I said what I said.
I’m not you and neither is Owl. I feel I can be objective. I love Obama, but it never stopped me from criticizing his policies I didn’t agree with, the same with Biden. I also gave Trump credit where he deserved it.
 
I’m not you and neither is Owl. I feel I can be objective. I love Obama, but it never stopped me from criticizing his policies I didn’t agree with, the same with Biden. I also gave Trump credit where he deserved it.

I'm sorry if you feel offended, but it is normal for people who dislike someone or something to automatically look for fault, the prudent person sets their feelings aside and objectively evaluate the issue. So in that respect I would hope you are like me.

Unlike you I gave up many of my rights as a member of the military. That is why I tend to be very guarded of those rights now.
 
and around it goes.

Im supposed to wear a mask ( which doesnt protect ME) to stop the spread to the unvaxxed?
Is there even a remote possibility the unvaxxed haven't been exposed to COVID already? no.

masks are anti-social, we rely on facial expressions as much as words in day to day conversations

and to make kids wear masks is dumb, and injurious

But St. Fauci/NIH dont care about all that -all they have is "mask up"

LOL, there is no chance that everyone in Florida has not been exposed? That might be the dumbest fucking thing you've EVER said here. Of course there is a chance. Most have not. If everyone had been exposed in Florida, it would be way worse right now. And to ADD to the stupidity of that statement, even if it was true, if they've been exposed and not gotten the virus, then they can STILL become infected. Fuck you are a moron.
 
Well, that's it then. It must be billions of illegal immigrants. LOL at you. THE single least vaccinated demographic is Republicans. And there are far more Republicans than there are blacks or hispanics. As for whatever bullshit you are rambling on about with the 200% vaccination, SO FUCKING WHAT? The dead horse is Bob posting in probably 50 different threads about illegals causing the pandemic. That is false. A lie. Bald faced, unsupported by ANY fact. What else you got?

Well, that's it then. It must be billions of illegal immigrants.

Stop being such a drama queen. As contagious as delta is purported to be, I doubt it would take more than 20 or 30 in a medium sized community to start a fast moving outbreak. But we all know it’s more than that, right?

THE single least vaccinated demographic is Republicans.

For the love of bacon, where the FUCK do you get your data?! The CDC don’t collect that shit, neither does the state, or any other government entity I can find. At least I call my theory a theory(and I have some damn good circumstantial evidence to back it up).

And you don’t seem to understand the significance of vaccination rates over 100% of the population. If a county has 5000 residents(I’m using small numbers here to help you grasp the concept), and reports 10000 vaccinations, THAT IS TWICE THE NUMBER OF CERTIFIED LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THAT COUNTY. Where did the extra 5000 jabs come from? Maybe they’re all republicans attending family reunions? Don’t ask the health authorities, they’re just trying to get the numbers up. Reminds me of dead democrats voting.
 
I'm sorry if you feel offended, but it is normal for people who dislike someone or something to automatically look for fault, the prudent person sets their feelings aside and objectively evaluate the issue. So in that respect I would hope you are like me.

Unlike you I gave up many of my rights as a member of the military. That is why I tend to be very guarded of those rights now.

That doesn't change the fact that you are making statements from a position of ignorance, and you seem to think that's okay. First you said there was no pandemic in the panhandle. That was false. Then you said it wasn't everywhere in Florida, just some parts of the state. And that was false. You did so having the information right at your fingertips, but instead of doing a simple search, you just made something up and posted it. That's dishonest and lazy.
 
Stop being such a drama queen. As contagious as delta is purported to be, I doubt it would take more than 20 or 30 in a medium sized community to start a fast moving outbreak. But we all know it’s more than that, right?



For the love of bacon, where the FUCK do you get your data?! The CDC don’t collect that shit, neither does the state, or any other government entity I can find. At least I call my theory a theory(and I have some damn good circumstantial evidence to back it up).

And you don’t seem to understand the significance of vaccination rates over 100% of the population. If a county has 5000 residents(I’m using small numbers here to help you grasp the concept), and reports 10000 vaccinations, THAT IS TWICE THE NUMBER OF CERTIFIED LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THAT COUNTY. Where did the extra 5000 jabs come from? Maybe they’re all republicans attending family reunions? Don’t ask the health authorities, they’re just trying to get the numbers up. Reminds me of dead democrats voting.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/dashboard/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-dashboard/

Quit being stupid and lazy.

If there are a million unvaccinated Republicans and ten immigrants, which group is more likely to start an outbreak. Come on little fella, I know it's a tough question, but you can do it. LOL at you.
 
Stop being such a drama queen. As contagious as delta is purported to be, I doubt it would take more than 20 or 30 in a medium sized community to start a fast moving outbreak. But we all know it’s more than that, right?

Geez, maybe you shoulda got vaxxed earlier at the beginning, and encouraged everyone else to get vaxxed so the Delta variant couldn't spread as easily...instead of questioning the efficacy of vaccines and masks, and just generally acting like a jackass.

So thanks for nothing.
 
For the love of bacon, where the FUCK do you get your data?! The CDC don’t collect that shit, neither does the state, or any other government entity I can find. At least I call my theory a theory(and I have some damn good circumstantial evidence to back it up).

We have polls, and the polls are enough, and those polls show that MOST REPUBLICANS are not vaccinated.

Those same polls show that 93% of Democrats are vaccinated.

But none of this is going to matter because the next 15 months are going to lay bare just who is vaccinated and who isn't, and we're going to see how well the vaccination effort worked when we see the final results of next year's midterms.

Because I have a sneaking suspicion that the anti-vaxx fervor that gripped the "very fine people" is going to kill enough of them over the next 15 months to make the difference in at least 1 close race next year.
 
And you don’t seem to understand the significance of vaccination rates over 100% of the population. If a county has 5000 residents(I’m using small numbers here to help you grasp the concept), and reports 10000 vaccinations, THAT IS TWICE THE NUMBER OF CERTIFIED LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THAT COUNTY.

Or you could just be misinterpreting 10000 shots as 10000 vaccinations.

Of course, some vaccines require two shots...so that's why a county of 5,000 people got 10,000 "vaccinations"...the 2nd shot for Moderna and Pfizer.


Where did the extra 5000 jabs come from?

The second shot, you stupid idiot.

You're so fucking dumb that you think a shot = vaccination...but it's not shot = vaccination, it's 2 shots = vaccination (for Moderna and Pfizer).

You're also so fucking dumb that you don't even know what data and stats you're looking at, and you rush through your responses sloppily on JPP without doing the work.

It's like watching my cat try to do Physics.
 
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