That is it, exactly, well put.
Tucker Carlson Takes on the Russiaphobes / Neocons & assorted Warmongers
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watch the video.
there are quite a few that will not deal with Russia- they want punishment like the Senate sanctions.nothing else.
They do not want to discuss lifting sanctions in return for any Putin reforms.
Lindsey graham and John McCain are the poster boys, but many in Congress are stuck on punishing Putin and nothing else. It's why we are in Cold War 2 also - we are not taking Putin's security needs as legit.
Did you see the criticism about the Trump/Putin meeting?
hysterical that they talks about ANYTHING ELSE then the election to the point they don't even mention the Syrian cease fire.
If you can't see how Russian hysteria is retarding our ability to practice realpolitik,you are not paying attention.
watch the video..it's like 5 minutes if you want to clue in
Trump’s main Russia problem is that he came into the White House from outside the elite Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) ruling class establishment.
Unlike the plugged-in U.S. power and imperial elite, the orange-haired brute never got the Zbigniew Brzezinski-crafted, David Rockefeller-endorsed CFR memo on the grave peril Moscow still poses to “the international system sponsored by the United States.”
Candidate Trump showed his lack of ruling class credentials by admiring Putin’s authoritarian manliness and calling for a stand-down from Obama and Hillary Clinton’s reckless, Brzezinski-esque provocation of the Kremlin in Eastern Europe and Syria.
He foolishly called for normalized relations with the vodka-swilling Eurasian power that arose from the grave to once again become Washington’s “all-purpose [global] punching bag” (Whitney).
After Herr Donald was ironically installed in the White House by leading Russophobe and “lying neoliberal warmonger” (LNW) Hillary Clinton, Russia-hating took on a new and seductive political meaning for Democrats and their many U.S. media allies.
The Russiagate narrative has proved irresistible to these actors for three basic reasons.
First, they have naturally wanted to delegitimize the early Trump administration for standard partisan reasons. They’ve seen tarring Trump as a treasonous friend of a leading “foreign adversary” as useful for that purpose.
Second, highly placed NATO-expansionist New Cold Warriors in both major parties (e.g., John McCain) and the media have wanted to keep the heat on Moscow.
The baseless collusion charges have been tools for the New Cold War camp to hedge in Trump’s promises of rapprochement with Russia.
The Russiagate scam is part of why Clockwork Orangutan found it necessary to absurdly tell Russia to “give Crimea back” to Ukraine and why he theatrically launched 59 cruise missiles onto a Syrian airbase.
Third, the Russian interference allegation has been made in part to help the DNC and the neoliberal Democratic Party establishment avoid responsibility for blowing the 2016 election.
The Democrats ran a wooden, Wall Street-captive, and corruption-tainted candidate (the aforementioned LNW) and a vapid and elitist campaign that couldn’t mobilize enough working- and lower-class voters to defeat the epically noxious and unpopular Trump in key states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Michigan and Ohio.
The “Moscow stole it” narrative is a fancy version of “The dog [bear?] ate my homework” for a dismal dollar-drenched Democratic Party that abandoned the working class and the causes of peace, social justice and environmental sustainability long ago.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/19/how-russia-became-our-adversary-again/
Unlike the plugged-in U.S. power and imperial elite, the orange-haired brute never got the Zbigniew Brzezinski-crafted, David Rockefeller-endorsed CFR memo on the grave peril Moscow still poses to “the international system sponsored by the United States.”
Candidate Trump showed his lack of ruling class credentials by admiring Putin’s authoritarian manliness and calling for a stand-down from Obama and Hillary Clinton’s reckless, Brzezinski-esque provocation of the Kremlin in Eastern Europe and Syria.
He foolishly called for normalized relations with the vodka-swilling Eurasian power that arose from the grave to once again become Washington’s “all-purpose [global] punching bag” (Whitney).
After Herr Donald was ironically installed in the White House by leading Russophobe and “lying neoliberal warmonger” (LNW) Hillary Clinton, Russia-hating took on a new and seductive political meaning for Democrats and their many U.S. media allies.
The Russiagate narrative has proved irresistible to these actors for three basic reasons.
First, they have naturally wanted to delegitimize the early Trump administration for standard partisan reasons. They’ve seen tarring Trump as a treasonous friend of a leading “foreign adversary” as useful for that purpose.
Second, highly placed NATO-expansionist New Cold Warriors in both major parties (e.g., John McCain) and the media have wanted to keep the heat on Moscow.
The baseless collusion charges have been tools for the New Cold War camp to hedge in Trump’s promises of rapprochement with Russia.
The Russiagate scam is part of why Clockwork Orangutan found it necessary to absurdly tell Russia to “give Crimea back” to Ukraine and why he theatrically launched 59 cruise missiles onto a Syrian airbase.
Third, the Russian interference allegation has been made in part to help the DNC and the neoliberal Democratic Party establishment avoid responsibility for blowing the 2016 election.
The Democrats ran a wooden, Wall Street-captive, and corruption-tainted candidate (the aforementioned LNW) and a vapid and elitist campaign that couldn’t mobilize enough working- and lower-class voters to defeat the epically noxious and unpopular Trump in key states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Michigan and Ohio.
The “Moscow stole it” narrative is a fancy version of “The dog [bear?] ate my homework” for a dismal dollar-drenched Democratic Party that abandoned the working class and the causes of peace, social justice and environmental sustainability long ago.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/19/how-russia-became-our-adversary-again/
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You want to go to war with Russia over your girl Hillary losing
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See, anatta? This is the kind of lunacy that your false narrative leads to.
You're giving the imbeciles on your side some hope.
take the plank out of your own eye before you worry about others.
You refuse to enlighten yourself, sticking w "false narrative"
Learn the issues we need to deal with Russia.
Cold War 2.0
Bringing Russia in to the European economic orbit while keeping NATO their military foe
The dangers of sanctions keeping Putin from using western high tech in the arctic.
Cooperation in Syria,and not clinging to"Assad must go"
Movement on Ukraine - we have the worst of the situations in Crimea and Donbass at play.
Quit our meddling in the Ukraine once and for all.
Why should thing1 watch your video when you refuse to watch clips others post??
I will not watch OP videos unsupported by text..other wise I watch them at my pleasure
Oh, you want both...lol You know that is not always possible...
i want something to show me I'm not wasting my time looking at a couple minutes of video of a subject
i'm not interested in. Even comments will do in a pinch
No I would not do that either, especially if it is long..
But often times watching a short clip or a starting point, for the point can be very helpful conveying an idea etc... My 2 cents anyway..
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
lol.....made up narrative is par for the lib'rul course since November.......
I have always found it telling when brain dead liberal liars like you fabricate straw man to promote your false narratives. No one is bending over backwards to give them credit shit-for-brains. We're just reminding lung assholes about what they said.
You remember nothing that resembles reality. But what I remember was the all out support for the war effort before dishonest lying liberal dumbfucks saw political opportunity by attacking Bush for going in.
The two biggest liberal lies about Iraq; (1) that there was a "rush" to war; and (2) Bush went it alone.
I swear - liberal Iraq War liars shouldn't even enter a discussion on foreign policy anymore. They should permanently recuse themselves. That's one you don't get a mulligan on.
You've turned lying into an art form. Dunce.
The lunacy and false narrative belongs to lying liberal losers like you. There was no Russian collusion, Hillary didn't lose because of Russian interference and the hack was done to DNC servers and posted on WikiLeaks.
The dishonesty and corruption of the DNC was exposed for everyone to see. You're just incapable of seeing anything because you're a sociopathic lying dunce with your eyes tightly shut.
You ARE the imbecile on your side; there is no hope for you.
blackvegetable
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You work with your hands, don't you.....
Wrong again shit-for-brains; but that is normal for idiots like you.
I am amused when liberals impugn those who do work with their hands; as if working is a bad thing. Liberals are lazy and stupid apparently.
blackvegetable
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Oh, I think I'm quite close......there is nothing in your posts indicating a capacity for Reason. You've spent years nursing at the teat of HS drop out Matt Drudge, conditioning your "mind" to take its information in ever diminishing doses.......like some Homeopathy of Stupid.
And I wasn't "impugning" people who work with their hands.....I was merely distinguishing them from those who are paid to think....
and you are clearly not among the latter.
You sound like you are saying that with disdain.
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