Navalny is dead at 47

Taichiliberal said:
Assange revealed the dirt all those agents WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IN THE NAME OF AMERICAN CITIZENS. Try reading up on some of the stuff he outed....if you can still find it.

Your gov't lies to you, does heinous acts around the world, then calls you a traitor if you expose it or speak out against it.
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Assange revealed it all without any filter. That included thousands of people around the world, for whatever reason, gave information to the USA. All those people had their lives endangered.
 
Walt said:
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Assange revealed the dirt all those agents WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IN THE NAME OF AMERICAN CITIZENS. Try reading up on some of the stuff he outed....if you can still find it.

Your gov't lies to you, does heinous acts around the world, then calls you a traitor if you expose it or speak out against it.
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Assange revealed it all without any filter. That included thousands of people around the world, for whatever reason, gave information to the USA. All those people had their lives endangered.
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repeating a moot point doesn't alter the facts of what I said one IOTA.

Put it this way: all those people "in danger" were that way before Assange blew the whistle on their dubious doings. They accepted that risk as part of the job, then they did shit that had NOTHING to do with national security and EVERYTHING to do with imperialistic ideals. I shed no tears for them, and quite frankly all the folk who are suddenly alarmed about this didn't give it a second thought until triggered by the jingoistic MSM coverage.
 
Do notice how the children of Washingtons Navaly Narrative went almost nowhere.

The Russians knew it was BS....and the world now tends to listen to and believe the Russians not us....we have done too much lying and too much abusing.

Buckle Up.
 
Taichiliberal said:
all those people "in danger" were that way before Assange blew the whistle on their dubious doings. They accepted that risk as part of the job
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These were foreign nationals who were giving the USA intelligence. It was not their job to do this. Much of the intelligence was about terrorist groups, so not particularly dubious. Though their countries would see things differently.

Taichiliberal said:
I shed no tears for them, and quite frankly all the folk who are suddenly alarmed about this didn't give it a second thought until triggered by the jingoistic MSM coverage.
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It appears some of these people were tortured to death. So Syrian informs on Al Qaeda to save your life, is exposed by Assange, his entire family is tortured to death, and you think it is a good thing?

I understand questioning American foreign policy. That is your right. But you seem to have crossed into openly siding with our enemies... Though I think it was an accidental crossing.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Do notice how the children of Washingtons Navaly Narrative went almost nowhere.

The Russians knew it was BS....and the world now tends to listen to and believe the Russians not us....we have done too much lying and too much abusing.

Buckle Up.
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Your hero worship of Putin murdering opposition leaders is spooky.
 
When the CIA asset the Ukrainian intel boss feels the need to publicly state "Look Man....we know that the Russians did not kill him" the narrative is clearly cancelled.
 
Walt said:
These were foreign nationals who were giving the USA intelligence. It was not their job to do this. Much of the intelligence was about terrorist groups, so not particularly dubious. Though their countries would see things differently.



It appears some of these people were tortured to death. So Syrian informs on Al Qaeda to save your life, is exposed by Assange, his entire family is tortured to death, and you think it is a good thing?

I understand questioning American foreign policy. That is your right. But you seem to have crossed into openly siding with our enemies... Though I think it was an accidental crossing.
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To date, NO ONE HAS PROVED THAT "FOREIGN NATIONALS" WERE KILLED OR IMPRISONED AS A RESULT OF ASSANGE"S PUBLICATION. And as I said before, check out (if you can find it) what the missions of the US agents were exactly...cause much of it wasn't about "terrorist" groups, and it sure as hell wasn't about preserving the sovereignty of nations with duly elected gov'ts.

"Appears" as according to whom, exactly? Again, you give a myopic, jingoistic assertion that has yet to be corroborated by objective examination. And no, Al Qaeda nor Syria was NEVER a viable threat to the USA, as what came down after 9-11 demonstrates. Remember, the "blind sheik" and crew gave it a shot first...got some folk killed, but they were bagged, tagged, tried on US soil and are now lifer's in some prison somewhere. And THAT wouldn't have happened if Daddy Bush had actually told Slick Willy as to what was going on intelligence wise.

No my friend, Assange blew an apt whistle on the BS that is being done in our name. The powers that be don't like being defied and want their pound of flesh. I just want Americans to pull their heads of out their asses and realize this.
 
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Taichiliberal said:
To date, NO ONE HAS PROVED THAT "FOREIGN NATIONALS" WERE KILLED OR IMPRISONED AS A RESULT OF ASSANGE"S PUBLICATION.
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No one really knows. There were definitely thousands of people around the world that were outed by Assange. Some were evacuated, but most were just left to fend for themselves. They live in dangerous parts of the world, so many were killed. Were they killed because Assange outed them? No one knows, and no one cares.
 
Taichiliberal said:
To date, NO ONE HAS PROVED THAT "FOREIGN NATIONALS" WERE KILLED OR IMPRISONED AS A RESULT OF ASSANGE"S PUBLICATION. And as I said before, check out (if you can find it) what the missions of the US agents were exactly...cause much of it wasn't about "terrorist" groups, and it sure as hell wasn't about preserving the sovereignty of nations with duly elected gov'ts.

"Appears" as according to whom, exactly. Again, you give a myopic, jingoistic assertion that has yet to be corroborated by objective examination. And no, Al Qaeda nor Syria was NEVER a viable threat to the USA, as what came down after 9-11 demonstrates. Remember, the "blind sheik" and crew gave it a shot first...got some folk killed, but they were bagged, tagged, tried on US soil and are now lifer's in some prison somewhere. And THAT wouldn't have happened if Daddy Bush had actually told Slick Willy as to what was going on intelligence wise.

No my friend, Assange blew an apt whistle on the BS that is being done in our name. The powers that be don't like being defied, and want their pound of flesh. I just want Americans to pull their heads of out their asses and realize this.
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walt loves the war machine.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Do notice how the children of Washingtons Navaly Narrative went almost nowhere.

The Russians knew it was BS....and the world now tends to listen to and believe the Russians not us....we have done too much lying and too much abusing.

Buckle Up.
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Total bullshit, Putin is a modern Hitler and it's truly fucking dismays me that you can't see that.
 
Walt said:
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To date, NO ONE HAS PROVED THAT "FOREIGN NATIONALS" WERE KILLED OR IMPRISONED AS A RESULT OF ASSANGE"S PUBLICATION.
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No one really knows. There were definitely thousands of people around the world that were outed by Assange. Some were evacuated, but most were just left to fend for themselves. They live in dangerous parts of the world, so many were killed. Were they killed because Assange outed them? No one knows, and no one cares.
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Inadvertently, you pull the rug out from under your assertions with the first sentence here. If you don't really know, then why keep repeating something as if it's a certainty/reality? That, my friend, is basic propaganda. What Assange revealed wasn't. I for one prefer facts and the truth over speculation and false narratives.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Inadvertently, you pull the rug out from under your assertions with the first sentence here. If you don't really know, then why keep repeating something as if it's a certainty/reality? That, my friend, is basic propaganda. What Assange revealed wasn't. I for one prefer facts and the truth over speculation and false narratives.
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As the leaders/experts/Mind Molders lie constantly about facts and truth....Hell, we are so corrupt now that even the scientists do it.
 
They were wrong about just about everything on COVID....they were wrong about just about everything re Russia.

Buckle Up...in this particular universe stupid hurts.
 
Just do what the experts tell you to do has us on the edge of WW3 for sure, and planetary collapse they claim.

Its well past time 4 a better idea.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Just do what the experts tell you to do has us on the edge of WW3 for sure, and planetary collapse they claim.

Its well past time 4 a better idea.
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When is avoiding WW III so humiliating that it becomes worse than WW III itself?

I think that you would say never, Hawk,
and I would strongly disagree.

I once went to war for no sane reason.

In contrast, were I a young man drafted today, I'd completely understand why.

Under some conditions, existing is far worse than ceasing to exist,
and in my opinion, we're pretty fucking close to that right now.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
When is avoiding WW III so humiliating that it becomes worse than WW III itself?

I think that you would say never, Hawk,
and I would strongly disagree.

I once went to war for no sane reason.

In contrast, were I a young man drafted today, I'd completely understand why.

Under some conditions, existing is far worse than ceasing to exist,
and in my opinion, we're pretty fucking close to that right now.
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Reading U always reminds me of cornmeal mush.

2 B CLEAR this is a problem.
 
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