james comey 8647 seashell post

Based on publicly available reporting, 8647 has been treated as a possible threat by authorities, but whether it legally qualifies as a death threat depends on proving intent — something legal experts say is difficult.


What the sources actually say​

Multiple outlets reported that former FBI Director James Comey was indicted after posting an image of seashells arranged as “8647,” which prosecutors interpreted as a threat toward President Trump.

Why the number matters:

  • “86” is slang for get rid of or throw out, and in some modern usage can imply kill, though dictionaries note this meaning is not widely established.
  • “47” refers to Trump as the 47th president.
This combination led Trump allies and federal prosecutors to argue it was a coded call to harm the president.

But is it​

Legal experts cited in reporting say the case faces major First Amendment hurdles because:

  • Prosecutors must prove the message was a “true threat” under 18 U.S.C. § 871.
  • They must also prove intent, not just interpretation.
  • A symbolic or ambiguous image — like seashells forming numbers — is generally protected speech unless paired with clear intent.
One constitutional law professor said the image alone would be unlikely to survive a First Amendment challenge.

How authorities responded​

Despite the legal ambiguity, the Secret Service and DHS treated the post as a potential threat and opened an investigation.

Comey later said he did not realize the numbers could be interpreted as violent and deleted the post.


Bottom line​

“8647” can be interpreted as a threat, and authorities have acted on that interpretation — but whether it is a death threat in the legal sense depends entirely on proving intent, which experts say is very difficult.
 
Grim Reaper said:
Based on publicly available reporting, 8647 has been treated as a possible threat by authorities, but whether it legally qualifies as a death threat depends on proving intent — something legal experts say is difficult.


What the sources actually say​

Multiple outlets reported that former FBI Director James Comey was indicted after posting an image of seashells arranged as “8647,” which prosecutors interpreted as a threat toward President Trump.

Why the number matters:

  • “86” is slang for get rid of or throw out, and in some modern usage can imply kill, though dictionaries note this meaning is not widely established.
  • “47” refers to Trump as the 47th president.
This combination led Trump allies and federal prosecutors to argue it was a coded call to harm the president.

But is it​

Legal experts cited in reporting say the case faces major First Amendment hurdles because:

  • Prosecutors must prove the message was a “true threat” under 18 U.S.C. § 871.
  • They must also prove intent, not just interpretation.
  • A symbolic or ambiguous image — like seashells forming numbers — is generally protected speech unless paired with clear intent.
One constitutional law professor said the image alone would be unlikely to survive a First Amendment challenge.

How authorities responded​

Despite the legal ambiguity, the Secret Service and DHS treated the post as a potential threat and opened an investigation.

Comey later said he did not realize the numbers could be interpreted as violent and deleted the post.


Bottom line​

“8647” can be interpreted as a threat, and authorities have acted on that interpretation — but whether it is a death threat in the legal sense depends entirely on proving intent, which experts say is very difficult.
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Trump and his MAGA sychophants really are a bunch of candyassed pearl clutchers.
 
Another Trump case that will blow up in court. The definition of 86 is not killing someone. It came partly from bars where you would 86 a bad-acting customer. They did not kill them. They threw them out. I knew some Trumpys would lie about this. Trump is sadly abusing his powers. However, his lawyers should be booted for frivolous and unethical lawsuits.
This is shameful.
 
volsrocks said:
So YES he threatened a sitting President with murder
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And in that sense, when you do that publicly, you get a visit from the Secret Service. Comey was stupid, and the administration overreacted. Also, no, this sort of thing does get investigated usually with just a warning from the SS to not do it again.
 
Grim Reaper said:
Based on publicly available reporting, 8647 has been treated as a possible threat by authorities, but whether it legally qualifies as a death threat depends on proving intent — something legal experts say is difficult.


What the sources actually say​

Multiple outlets reported that former FBI Director James Comey was indicted after posting an image of seashells arranged as “8647,” which prosecutors interpreted as a threat toward President Trump.

Why the number matters:

  • “86” is slang for get rid of or throw out, and in some modern usage can imply kill, though dictionaries note this meaning is not widely established.
  • “47” refers to Trump as the 47th president.
This combination led Trump allies and federal prosecutors to argue it was a coded call to harm the president.

But is it​

Legal experts cited in reporting say the case faces major First Amendment hurdles because:

  • Prosecutors must prove the message was a “true threat” under 18 U.S.C. § 871.
  • They must also prove intent, not just interpretation.
  • A symbolic or ambiguous image — like seashells forming numbers — is generally protected speech unless paired with clear intent.
One constitutional law professor said the image alone would be unlikely to survive a First Amendment challenge.

How authorities responded​

Despite the legal ambiguity, the Secret Service and DHS treated the post as a potential threat and opened an investigation.

Comey later said he did not realize the numbers could be interpreted as violent and deleted the post.


Bottom line​

“8647” can be interpreted as a threat, and authorities have acted on that interpretation — but whether it is a death threat in the legal sense depends entirely on proving intent, which experts say is very difficult.
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Comey later said he did not realize the numbers could be interpreted as violent and deleted the post.

So he just picked those numbers at random?
 
volsrocks said:
Comey later said he did not realize the numbers could be interpreted as violent and deleted the post.

So he just picked those numbers at random?
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You mean the same way Trump quietly deleted that Jesus picture after everyone pointed out how blasphemous it was? Funny how fast people hit the delete button once they realize how their posts actually look.
 
The GOP wasted the taxpayer's money for years trying to get the votes to repeal the ACA and only achieved partial repeal via voting down re-enactment of enhanced subsidies.

The GOP wasted the taxpayer's money trying to impeach Bill Clinton, only to get an article of impeachment with Clinton leaving office with a favorable approval rating.

The GOP wasted the taxpayer's money for4 years trying to make Obama "a one term President instead of properly governing.

So going after Comey AGAIN is just another futile effort to distract from the disasters of depriving people of healthcare, killing protesters of ICE, ICE detention camps that keep children in horrific conditions, adults dying in them, the tariff caused lousy economy, a bogus war in Iran that has killed several American soldiers and countless Iranian civilians, the unconditional support of Israel's genocidal actions in Gaza and subsequent aggression against Lebanon and other neighboring countries, forcing victims of rape and incest to bring those pregnancies to term, THE EPSTEIN FILES, etc., etc.,

And the mid-terms are a coming, baby!
 
Jade Dragon said:
Trump and his MAGA sychophants really are a bunch of candyassed pearl clutchers.
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Interesting that Comey does this and there are multiple attempts on Trumps life

So you think Comey is above the law? I ask because you marxists used to be fond of saying nobody was and you seem to be implying that now Comey is.
 
volsrocks said:
So YES he threatened a sitting President with murder
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You mean like this, SnowflakeBoi?

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Jade Dragon said:
Trump and his MAGA sychophants really are a bunch of candyassed pearl clutchers.
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Said the grossly overweight fat ass who rarely even goes outside his house and has to muster up the courage to even walk to the mailbox. :ROFLMAO: You lefties sure are a hilarious lot. There is no other better description of lefties out there better than the oldt ried and true " They are exactly what they accuse you of being" Too funny!
 
countryboy said:
Yeah, we get it. You're all in on getting President Trump assassinated. The left is an assassination culture. Violence is your stock in trade.
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There is ONLY one thing that fat bastard cares about when it comes to politics and one thing only. Getting people elected that will keep giving him free healthcare, food stamps, and a pitiful little monthly stipend. He has made a life out of living off of the hard work of others. That fat bastard never met a free Govt program he didn't sign up for. It will be a GREAT DAY when people like that are FINALLY made to get off their dead asses and work. He knows its coming too,....everyone does, all you have to do is follow the daily news. He's scared shitless.
 
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