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ExpressLane said:
Don't have to. When you are against ICE and the enforcement of out Border Laws you are for open borders.
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Seeing is not believing for a liberal, apparently.

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Miss Marple, do you recall our posts about Castilian Spanish?

I finally convinced you that verb conjugation has zero connection to dialect.

Remember?

Do the right thing, apologize to Legion for falsely calling him a liar.

It’s the right thing to do and you should always do the right thing, even if the stars fall, do the right thing.
 
Legion said:
Then there's this:

https://www.democracywithoutborders.org/4421/seven-reasons-why-there-should-be-open-borders/
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:rolleyes: An opinion piece from someone talking about European, not North American borders, does not apply here.

DEMOCRATS have written off the accusation of supporting open borders as a Republican talking point.

“Immigrants seeking refuge in our country aren’t a threat to national security. Migration shouldn’t be a criminal justice issue. It’s time to end this draconian policy and return to treating immigration as a civil — not a criminal — issue,” DEMOCRAT Julián Castro wrote in an April op-ed on Medium.
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Nothing about open borders.

During the first DEMOCRAT debate in Miami, all the DEMOCRAT candidates who were asked directly if entering the United States without permission should be decriminalized, answered yes.

For years Democrats have claimed they are for strong border security and immigration enforcement while also providing empathy for those who come to the United States illegally. After all, Sens. Charles Schumer (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.) and a number of other Democrats voted for the Secure Fence Act in 2006. In fact, many complained the legislation wasn’t enough to properly secure the border with Mexico.

That empathy has turned into enabling and incentivizing as 2019 Democrats abandon any sense of sovereignty and border control.

Until now, Democrats have written off the accusation of supporting open borders as a Republican talking point. Now, it’s solidly in their platform and has been given on-the-record support by Democrats running for president.

“I agree with Castro. We should not be criminalizing mamas and babies trying to flee violence at home or trying to build a better future. We must pass comprehensive immigration reform that is in line with our values, creates a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants including our Dreamers, and protects our borders,” Elizabeth Warren (D) told HuffPost.

Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J) has taken things further and vowed to essentially eliminate any kind of border detention through an executive order. His aborted campaign released an 11-page policy document explaining the details.

“Today, Cory Booker is outlining executive actions he will take beginning on day one of his presidency to virtually eliminate immigration detention and put an end to the humanitarian crisis at the border and in detention centers across the country,” Booker’s campaign said. “Without waiting for Congress to act, Cory will stop the treatment of immigrants as criminals, close inhumane DHS facilities, end the use of for-profit detention facilities and end unnecessary barriers for refugees and those seeking asylum to virtually eliminate immigrant detention.”

Considering DEMOCRATS now believe any kind of detention is “inhumane,” under Booker’s plan all detention centers would be closed.

https://tinyurl.com/tn7h3rk
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Good lord what happened to your reading comprehension? None of these people called for open borders. What they're saying is that illegal immigration should be treated as a civil issue. Furthermore, neither Biden nor Sanders call for open borders and they're the only candidates who count now.

https://www.ontheissues.org/joe_biden.htm#Immigration https://www.ontheissues.org/Bernie_Sanders.htm#Immigration

Btw, if Schumer and Obama voted FOR the Secure Fence Act, doesn't that show they're against open borders?
 
Legion said:
I heard that Russia closed their borders almost immediately and that there are no known COVID-19 deaths in that country, and very few confirmed cases.

The known cases that exist there are reportedly confined to people who had traveled to Asia or had been in contact with someone who had.

Yet the left demands open borders. :palm:
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Russia, Russia, Russia........
 
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
 
christiefan915 said:
An opinion piece from someone talking about European, not North American borders, does not apply here.
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Not so, dancin' Duchess.

From their website:

Democracy Without Borders takes an integrated approach to demo*cracy promotion, from local to global, including the dimensions of representation, participation, deliberation and co-decision. In our planetary age many key decisions are being taken beyond the nation-state. While advo*cating national demo*cratization, we focus on pro*moting demo*cratic global institutions. Democracy Without Borders is working with international partners and currently has chapters in four countries. We wish to expand further to promote our cause more effectively across the world’s regions. Together with our partners Democracy Without Borders runs global campaigns and programs for a UN Parliamentary Assembly, a UN World Citizens’ Initiative and a Global Voting Platform.


https://www.democracywithoutborders.org/about/

What does "global" mean down there in Shittsburgh?
 
“During the first DEMOCRAT debate in Miami, all the DEMOCRAT candidates who were asked directly if entering the United States without permission should be decriminalized, answered yes.
https://tinyurl.com/tn7h3rk

That would certainly open the borders.

Indeed it would.
 
Brad* said:
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
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Nobody's perfect, Brad*. Not even Andrew Gillum. I seem to recall a few of your predictions that didn't turn out the way you said they would.
 
Earl said:
“During the first DEMOCRAT debate in Miami, all the DEMOCRAT candidates who were asked directly if entering the United States without permission should be decriminalized, answered yes.”

That would certainly open the borders.

Indeed it would.
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The dancin' Duchess of Double Standards definitely disagrees.

She thinks she can change the meaning of words at will to suit a momentary agenda, while disallowing your use of the usual definition.
 
ExpressLane said:
Yep they are acting like epidemiologist did not have input into that decision. Liberals are just being a bunch of morons. Trump saved many lives slowing this thing down. If Trump had not acted quickly we would be in Italy's shape right now. Italy's hospitals are so overloaded they are having to decide who get's ICU beds and who dies. Old folks are the losers. Bad flu years push US hospitals to the limit. This easily could be worse. Everybody needs to practice social distancing in an attempt to slow this train down before it picks up speed.
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What makes you think it's slowed down? We went from one to 2000+ in a few weeks.

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