How should we punish China?

Prepare yourself for complete collapse of the Global Economic System....not only do I claim that it is now too late to avoid this fate very soon, but our leaders act like they know that it is toast when they dont even pretend anymore to be trying to be responsible in the spending they enact.

Very bad times are coming, and coming fast.

Not yet. The seeds are there, but not yet.
 
I'm stocked up on ammo and toilet paper so bring it on.

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If you shoot yourself in the butt, be sure to wipe afterwards.
 
It's all about how one defines democracy!

Can you name anything that is a measure of efficiency?

* Conversion of thermal energy to mechanical energy.
* Conversion of electrostatic energy to thermal energy.

A democracy is vote by the people, there is no constitution. The people are the direct government. In other words, mob rule.
Democracies are unstable. They usually dissolve into dictatorships or oligarchies in short order.

The United States is not a democracy and never was. The United States is organized as a federated republic. It has constitutions.
 
I said that?

I did not mean to say that.

I am all in for democracy, even though it is hard to do well, and the West is now generally failing at doing it...just look at all of the abuse that power now dishes out!

Democracy fails. It is an unstable form of government. I'll support a republican form of government. I uphold constitutions as the highest law of the land.
 
Democracy fails. It is an unstable form of government. I'll support a republican form of government. I uphold constitutions as the highest law of the land.

Cool....Cool....

What has happened to America is very sad right, but is what tends to happen when an entire generation fails to turn in good work.... mostly because they are self serving lazy fucks who dont care about quality....

Do you track with this?
 
Pretty bold statement. Can you back it up with some kind of reasoning?

It would only be done with global support. I think most of the world wold like to do the same type of thing, in one form or another, in regards to the damage China has done to their nations.
 
What POV?

I don't have a POV about you because I've never wasted any time thinking about you.

And that is exactly what thinking about you would be.... a waste of time.
The fact you are responding to a post sent to someone else is clear evidence you think about me.
 
Cool....Cool....

What has happened to America is very sad right, but is what tends to happen when an entire generation fails to turn in good work.... mostly because they are self serving lazy fucks who dont care about quality....

Do you track with this?

The United States never was a democracy.
 
It would only be done with global support. I think most of the world wold like to do the same type of thing, in one form or another, in regards to the damage China has done to their nations.

What about the confidence of other bond holders? What of them? Many of those are by banks in the very countries that you are trying to call in as allies. Others are private bondholders. What of them?
 
What about the confidence of other bond holders? What of them? Many of those are by banks in the very countries that you are trying to call in as allies. Others are private bondholders. What of them?

Red China is the only target. Odds of it happening are about 2%. Not worth much analysis at this point. But nice to use as a threat if China wants to continue playing bioweapons hardball.
 
The fact you are responding to a post sent to someone else is clear evidence you think about me.

The fact that you equate my responding to a moronic post in which you mentioned me, to spending time thinking about you, is clear evidence that you are a fucking disingenuous idiot.
 
Some are suggesting that we don't pay back the money that they loaned us. I say that is a good start...

The US Government is able to borrow massive amounts of money at below target inflation, because it is absolutely trusted not to default. People are literally paying us to take their money. This is a great situation to be in.

If we do have a massive default, then no one will ever loan us money again. You may think we can raise rates to a point they will loan us money, but as rates go up, the chances of us paying back goes down, and so it becomes a death spiral. There is no entity large enough to bail us out, and because it would be a self caused error, there is no entity that would want to bail us out.

It would not just destroy the borrowing, but also the US Dollar. The US Dollar is based on the ability to repay Treasurys, which would be destroyed by this financial collapse. Make no mistake about it, it would not be a depression, but a dark ages. America would be done as a country, and collapsing as a culture.

Losing its biggest trade partner would also hurt China. But it would hit America hardest.
 
The US Government is able to borrow massive amounts of money at below target inflation, because it is absolutely trusted not to default. People are literally paying us to take their money. This is a great situation to be in.

If we do have a massive default, then no one will ever loan us money again. You may think we can raise rates to a point they will loan us money, but as rates go up, the chances of us paying back goes down, and so it becomes a death spiral. There is no entity large enough to bail us out, and because it would be a self caused error, there is no entity that would want to bail us out.

It would not just destroy the borrowing, but also the US Dollar. The US Dollar is based on the ability to repay Treasurys, which would be destroyed by this financial collapse. Make no mistake about it, it would not be a depression, but a dark ages. America would be done as a country, and collapsing as a culture.

Losing its biggest trade partner would also hurt China. But it would hit America hardest.

Because the dollar is the global currency, a situation that The New Chinese Empire will shortly put an end to.

Buckle Up....Very bad days are coming.
 
The fact that you equate my responding to a moronic post in which you mentioned me, to spending time thinking about you, is clear evidence that you are a fucking disingenuous idiot.

Pretty much these days anyone who calls one of their peers a moron gets a point from me.

+12U!
 
Incentivize companies to bring manufacturing back to the US with tax incentives with the caveat that they have to keep their business in the US for at least 15 years or they pay back the tax breaks PLUS 25%

If we cannot borrow money, we would need to triple taxes. You cannot triple my taxes, because you would be above 100%. That means we need to raise taxes as high as possible with EVERYONE we can find. There is no tax breaks that are going to happen.

I do not think we can raise taxes enough to save our country from the disaster you want, but I certainly think we would have to try if you create this disaster. In life, you do not always have to win or even survive, but it is good to always try.

Impose tariffs on any other country that did business with China

We destroy our economy, and then we announce that the world has to pick either us or China? They are going to pick China, as they should. We would have nothing to offer but destruction, and they should think of their own children.

It is like when trump betrayed the Kurds. Of course the Kurds should align themselves with our enemies. They were our allies, trump betrayed them, and now they have to think of saving their own children.
 
If we cannot borrow money, we would need to triple taxes. You cannot triple my taxes, because you would be above 100%. That means we need to raise taxes as high as possible with EVERYONE we can find. There is no tax breaks that are going to happen.

I do not think we can raise taxes enough to save our country from the disaster you want, but I certainly think we would have to try if you create this disaster. In life, you do not always have to win or even survive, but it is good to always try.



We destroy our economy, and then we announce that the world has to pick either us or China? They are going to pick China, as they should. We would have nothing to offer but destruction, and they should think of their own children.

It is like when trump betrayed the Kurds. Of course the Kurds should align themselves with our enemies. They were our allies, trump betrayed them, and now they have to think of saving their own children.

The Kurds are Pricks..

FUCK THE KURDS!
 
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