Happy Indigenous People's Day!

[PoliTalker]

Hello T. A. Gardner,

Actually, the Navajo Code-Talkers while a very clever and neat idea, made ZERO difference in the War in the Pacific.

Code-Talkers were tactical radio operators. That is, they performed battlefield communications at battalion and regimental level within only the USMC. This was because these communications were normally not encrypted and the USMC was worried the Japanese might listen in on these radio channels gaining information that could be used on the immediate battlefield.
There were a few things the Marines (and Army) didn't know at the time that pretty much precluded that from happening at all. Most US (both Marine and Army) tactical radios by 1944 were FM sets, something the IJA completely lacked. That is, the Japanese didn't have radio receivers in service that could even pick up US tactical communications. Second, the Japanese had few radio sets in service at all in most field units. Runners were the norm for communications.
Third, for many applications like artillery fire control, most of the communications system ran on field telephones not radios. The US used a two-wire telephone system (unlike older one-wire ground return) that was immune to enemy interception unless the enemy could physically tap the phone line.
So, the whole Code-Talker program was really mostly just a waste of time. Yes, it was, and is, a neat idea to use an obscure language to encrypt radio communications real-time and in that sense it worked brilliantly. Too bad the enemy wasn't listening...

That depends on who is asked.

"While their code talking became invaluable in many aspects of war, the Navajo code talkers got their shining moment during the Battle of Iwo Jima. For two days straight, six Navajo code talkers worked around the clock, sending and receiving over 800 messages – all of them without error.

Major Howard Connor, the signal officer in charge of the mission praised the efforts of the code talkers, giving them credit for the mission’s success. “Were it not for the Navajos,” he said, “the Marines would never have taken Iwo Jima.”"

Navajo Code Talkers

And hey, guess what? I put a link to support my post.

 

[Damocles]

Okay so tax them for murders. WTF does this have to do with their fair use of their own land?

Why do you suck up to that Stolen Valor Cocksucker Terry O'Brien?

nope, image removed.

I've warned you, I hope this is the last time I have to remove his image from one of your posts.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello T. A. Gardner,

Actually, the Navajo Code-Talkers while a very clever and neat idea, made ZERO difference in the War in the Pacific.

Code-Talkers were tactical radio operators. That is, they performed battlefield communications at battalion and regimental level within only the USMC. This was because these communications were normally not encrypted and the USMC was worried the Japanese might listen in on these radio channels gaining information that could be used on the immediate battlefield.
There were a few things the Marines (and Army) didn't know at the time that pretty much precluded that from happening at all. Most US (both Marine and Army) tactical radios by 1944 were FM sets, something the IJA completely lacked. That is, the Japanese didn't have radio receivers in service that could even pick up US tactical communications. Second, the Japanese had few radio sets in service at all in most field units. Runners were the norm for communications.
Third, for many applications like artillery fire control, most of the communications system ran on field telephones not radios. The US used a two-wire telephone system (unlike older one-wire ground return) that was immune to enemy interception unless the enemy could physically tap the phone line.
So, the whole Code-Talker program was really mostly just a waste of time. Yes, it was, and is, a neat idea to use an obscure language to encrypt radio communications real-time and in that sense it worked brilliantly. Too bad the enemy wasn't listening...

I notice you singled out the Pacific.

That wasn't the only threat to America in WWII.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

On casualties... There was a different mindset back then. Casualties were expected. It was part of being in the military. While the military didn't want to frivolously throw away lives, they weren't hesitant to accept heavy casualties as part of mission accomplishment. That has changed today starting about the Carter / post Vietnam era. So, no program was going to be looked at as "saving lives" but rather "will it help win the war."

It was still that way when I was in. Mission first, Troop Welfare second. The Marine Corps, or Navy for that matter, never engaged in suicide missions. Completing the mission always comes first. Better planning and equipment helped not only complete the mission but minimize casualties doing it.

An example would be a platoon of Marines encountering a couple of pill boxes and a couple of tanks. In 1945, it would be Marines, their M1s, grenades and, if they were lucky, a satchel charge or two. They'd certainly lose people completing the mission.

In 2021. A few LAWs would do it with little to no casualties.

The mission hasn't changed. The Marine Corps simply got better at minimizing casualties due to better tactics (e.g. night) and equipment.

 

[PoliTalker]

Code Talkers were used in WWI and in WWII in Africa, Europe and the Pacific.

What was the significance of the code talkers during WWII?

"What was the significance of the code talkers during WWII?

Code talkers were integral to the success of individual battles and campaigns. They were on Utah Beach during D-Day and have been credited with the reason Marines were able to take Iwo Jima."

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I notice you singled out the Pacific.

That wasn't the only threat to America in WWII.

That was solely where the Navajo Code-Talkers worked, and then only from late 1944 to the end of the war. Code-Talkers were only used by the USMC, not by any other service. The USMC operated large combat units only in the Pacific. The claim they were on Utah Beach is wrong. I would point to the rather definitive Utah Beach by Joseph Balkoski on that. In fact, there were just a few Marines that landed on D-Day in totality accompanying USN shore bombardment radio crews, far less than 100 in all. Marine participation was all but nonexistent on D-Day in Normandy.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I notice you singled out the Pacific.

That wasn't the only threat to America in WWII.

IIRC, the Pacific war was where the Code Talkers were used in WWII.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Code Talkers were used in WWI and in WWII in Africa, Europe and the Pacific.

What was the significance of the code talkers during WWII?

"What was the significance of the code talkers during WWII?

Code talkers were integral to the success of individual battles and campaigns. They were on Utah Beach during D-Day and have been credited with the reason Marines were able to take Iwo Jima."

Very cool. It makes sense that if the Army saw the Marine Corps come up with a good idea, they'd steal it for themselves.

"What tribe served as code talkers in Europe?
In North Africa, eight Soldiers from the Meskwaki tribe in Iowa served as code talkers in the 168th Infantry Regiment, 34th Division. In Europe, the 4th Signal Company, 4th Infantry Division, was assigned 17 Comanche code talkers."

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Hello T. A. Gardner,



That depends on who is asked.

"While their code talking became invaluable in many aspects of war, the Navajo code talkers got their shining moment during the Battle of Iwo Jima. For two days straight, six Navajo code talkers worked around the clock, sending and receiving over 800 messages – all of them without error.

Major Howard Connor, the signal officer in charge of the mission praised the efforts of the code talkers, giving them credit for the mission’s success. “Were it not for the Navajos,” he said, “the Marines would never have taken Iwo Jima.”"

Navajo Code Talkers

And hey, guess what? I put a link to support my post.

With historical hindsight, the Major is wrong. The Code-Talkers did their job and did it well, but their unique code didn't make a nickel's worth of difference to the outcome.

One glance at some of the planning for that operation shows this clearly.

https://external-preview.redd.it/d7GoXhOxca_ub-86yC4NUfEGJ1pMzKFNgxyBs_OIZSg.jpg?auto=webp&20a56ff6

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I've warned you, I hope this is the last time I have to remove his image from one of your posts.

Sorry but my understanding was not to put false words in his mouth. Not that I'm restricted from using a public image. His would be the only one. I've done the same with Spaz and Stone. Maybe some others. Why is the Stolen Valor cocksucker Terry O'Brien special?

This isn't doxxing; the douchebag puts his picture out there. People are free to do the same thing to my photos. That's why people shrink them or slightly obscure them; because they aren't fucking dumbass stolen valor cocksuckers spamming the forum with their fucking videos.

Which brings up a point about stolen valor. Terry O'Brien is impersonating a female combat veteran with his Terri4Trump sock puppet. He's fucked up a few times mixing up T4T and his Great American account. He's a stolen valor fuckwad.

While I agree Terry O'Brien is free to be a stolen valor cocksucker sexting with his fans, please allow me the freedom to confront him about his lies, sexual trickery and stolen valor. TIA

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Biden becomes first president to proclaim Indigenous Peoples' Day

"Oct. 9 (UPI) -- President Joe Biden is the first president to issue a proclamation for Indigenous Peoples' Day.

Biden issued the proclamation on Friday, recognizing Monday as Indigenous People's Day, and marking the first time a U.S. president has done so.
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"Our country was conceived on a promise of equality and opportunity for all people -- a promise that, despite the extraordinary progress we have made through the years, we have never fully lived up to," Biden wrote in the proclamation. "That is especially true when it comes to upholding the rights and dignity of the Indigenous people who were here long before colonization of the Americas began."

"History demonstrates that Native American people -- and our nation as a whole -- are best served when tribal governments are empowered to lead their communities and when federal officials listen to and work together with Tribal leaders when formulating federal policy that affects tribal nations," Biden wrote.
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"The contributions that Indigenous peoples have made throughout history -- in public service, entrepreneurship, scholarship, the arts, and countless other fields -- are integral to our Nation, our culture, and our society," he continued."

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Indigenous People's Day

1. Female warriors

Native American women fought alongside men in battles, the most popular among them being the Buffalo Calf Road Woman of the Northern Cheyenne tribe.

2. Popcorn

The Indigenous Americans were the first to domesticate the strains of maize that produced popcorn thousands of years ago.

3. Maria Tallchief

The first Native American (and American) to dance at the Bolshoi Theatre in Moscow and with the Paris Opera Ballet was Maria Tallchief.


4. Hockey

The Native American tribes of Foxes, Saux, and Assiniboine played a game called shinny, which is where hockey came from.


5. The sequoia tree

The sequoia tree is named after the revered Cherokee leader Sequoyah, who created an alphabet for his people.

A Hideout Is Not a Homeland


Prehistorically, these indigenees were unevolved Asian bandit gangs that got kicked out of that habitable territory and driven North towards the Arctic Circle. No people would choose that frozen wasteland as a place to settle down in. Therefore, they logically must have escaped there as fugitives from civilized justice. They kept on going and wound up in the Americas, where they continued their incompetence to get much out of the land and resorted to intertribal genocide in order to survive.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

With historical hindsight, the Major is wrong. The Code-Talkers did their job and did it well, but their unique code didn't make a nickel's worth of difference to the outcome.

One glance at some of the planning for that operation shows this clearly.

https://external-preview.redd.it/d7GoXhOxca_ub-86yC4NUfEGJ1pMzKFNgxyBs_OIZSg.jpg?auto=webp&20a56ff6

It's all hindsight. It was a great fucking idea and if it saved the life of one Marine, it was worth the price.

The link gets a Error 403 Forbidden code.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

A Hideout Is Not a Homeland


Prehistorically, these indigenees were unevolved Asian bandit gangs that got kicked out of that habitable territory and driven North towards the Arctic Circle. No people would choose that frozen wasteland as a place to settle down in. Therefore, they logically must have escaped there as fugitives from civilized justice. They kept on going and wound up in the Americas, where they continued their incompetence to get much out of the land and resorted to intertribal genocide in order to survive.

Nice post; another racist revisionist heard from, singing the song of his people. They must be so proud of you, making that up all by yourself. You did make it all up, right? It's not a copy-and-paste from Daily Stormer or OANN?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

It's all hindsight. It was a great fucking idea and if it saved the life of one Marine, it was worth the price.

The link gets a Error 403 Forbidden code.

Sorry, it worked for me.

This was the original one I was linking to:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wwiipics/comments/90pnfd/iwo_jima_bombardment_target_map/

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Need to change the name of Columbus Day to Indigenous People's Day?!!

This year marks the first time a U.S. president has officially recognized Indigenous Peoples' Day.

President Biden issued a proclamation on Friday to observe this Oct. 11 as a day to honor Native Americans, their resilience and their contributions to American society throughout history, even as they faced assimilation, discrimination and genocide spanning generations. The move shifts focus from Columbus Day, the federal holiday celebrating Christopher Columbus, which shares the same date as Indigenous Peoples' Day this year.

Dylan Baca, a 19-year-old Arizonan who was instrumental in helping broker the proclamation, is overwhelmed by the gravity of Biden's action.

"I still don't think I've fully absorbed what that has meant," he said. "This is a profound thing the president has done, and it's going to mean a lot to so many people."

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/11/1044823626/indigenous-peoples-day-native-americans-columbus

Senator Pottawannabe

Turned down by Kamala, Bi-den must be getting BJs from Elizabeth Warren.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Sorry, it worked for me.

This was the original one I was linking to:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wwiipics/comments/90pnfd/iwo_jima_bombardment_target_map/

Very cool. Thanks. The Navy certainly pounded the shit out of the island. Not sure if it made a difference. LOL

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

On Columbus Day We're celebrating the exploration; the journey; taking the risk. Where would be without curiosity and wandering? The world might still be seen as flat. This day we celebrate Columbus' bravery to explore. It has absolutely nothing to do with the local savages.

These are the types of things that losers on the Left cannot grasp.

American: Daniel Boone
Democrat: Boondoggle


The Latin phrase on our dollar bill Annuit (audacibus) Coeptis means "Fortune favors those who dare to do things. Luck is with those who take risks."

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Very cool. Thanks. The Navy certainly pounded the shit out of the island. Not sure if it made a difference. LOL

For some perspective: Pick any one US heavy cruiser present, say Salt Lake City. That single ship was scheduled to fire more rounds in bombardment of Iwo Jima than the entirety of the bombardment force (Cruiser division 7) the Japanese were going to use at Midway...

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Sovereign land...or do you want to break that treaty too?

Indigenee Halloween: Trick or Treaty

Americans never broke any treaties with the Indians, because Americans were never stupid enough to trust those forked-tongue savages. The race traitors in the government made those treaties in order to endanger and humiliate the public. Appeasing backward thrill-killers was an elitist policy to put us in our place. Sound familiar?

 

[Damocles]

Sorry but my understanding was not to put false words in his mouth. Not that I'm restricted from using a public image. His would be the only one. I've done the same with Spaz and Stone. Maybe some others. Why is the Stolen Valor cocksucker Terry O'Brien special?

This isn't doxxing; the douchebag puts his picture out there. People are free to do the same thing to my photos. That's why people shrink them or slightly obscure them; because they aren't fucking dumbass stolen valor cocksuckers spamming the forum with their fucking videos.

Which brings up a point about stolen valor. Terry O'Brien is impersonating a female combat veteran with his Terri4Trump sock puppet. He's fucked up a few times mixing up T4T and his Great American account. He's a stolen valor fuckwad.

While I agree Terry O'Brien is free to be a stolen valor cocksucker sexting with his fans, please allow me the freedom to confront him about his lies, sexual trickery and stolen valor. TIA

Just do it without the image, and without following him around. If all you do is follow GA around, then you will find rule 14 an issue.

Basically, when you make something my problem, it doesn't stay my problem I share that load.