First-hand account of what life under socialism is like (Venezuela vs. Europe)

Penderyn said:
If it's a dictatorship, dimmo, the working class is not in control, obviously.
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Congratulations. You've almost finished comprehending my point. :hand:

Again, in order to seize total control of the means of production, putting a gun to everyone's heads is required. That's dictatorship. Socialism fails (in part) because it ALWAYS becomes dictatorship.

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Arminius said:
Hence his National SOCIALIST platform being all about total nanny state control, free education, free health care, taxpayer-funded everything, redistribution of wealth, expanding "old age income" (German Social Security), the total government control of industry, abolishing child labor...because that's "capitalism."

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As you know, child, Hitler had to use the term 'socialist' because he couldn't have admitted to supporting capitalism in the Germany it had wrecked. Child, normasl capitalism has to offer free education to brainwash the mugs and health care to keep 'em working. Everywhere under capitalism, as you know, the rich are growing richer. What is this silly quack meant to be for?
 
Arminius said:
Congratulations. You've almost finished comprehending my point. :hand:

Again, in order to seize total control of the means of production, putting a gun to everyone's heads is required. That's dictatorship. Socialism fails (in part) because it ALWAYS becomes dictatorship.

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To take back the means of production from the thieves and run them for ourselves, muggins, does not require a state at all. You don't know about democracy or the working class, so I suppose you must be forgiven for all thus tedious crap. What a ghastly world you must live in!
 
Penderyn said:
As you know, child, Hitler had to use the term 'socialist' because he couldn't have admitted to supporting capitalism in the Germany it had wrecked.
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WWI wrecking Germany was..."capitalism?" Nice logic. :laugh:

Penderyn said:
Child, normasl capitalism has to offer free education to brainwash the mugs and health care to keep 'em working.
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So that long list of SOCIALIST proposals of the National SOCIALIST party is all negated by...capitalists needing public schools to brainwash people into believing their own eyes when they see freedom create prosperity? :rofl2:

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Penderyn said:
Everywhere under capitalism, as you know, the rich are growing richer.
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And the poor are growing richer as well, hence the point. :palm:

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The sheep herding America hating POS must be a Hitler admirer. Nearly all of his posts are about him or Nazis.
 
Penderyn said:
To take back the means of production from the thieves...
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Honoring people's God-given property rights is "thievery?" Again, devastating logic there, Socrates. :hand:

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Penderyn said:
and run them for ourselves
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You mean have a dictator pretend to represent the working class while actually just serving himself. :bs:

Penderyn said:
does not require a state at all.
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Violating everyone's rights with forced redistribution of wealth at gunpoint requires no government? :rofl2:

Please, by all means, explain. :laugh:

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Arminius said:
WWI wrecking Germany was..."capitalism?" Nice logic. :laugh:
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Reparations partly, but mainly your slump.

Arminius said:
So that long list of SOCIALIST proposals of the National SOCIALIST party is all negated by...capitalists needing public schools to brainwash people into believing their own eyes when they see freedom create prosperity?
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What did Hitler DO, child? He defended capitalism to the death - of many millions of people. That's capitalism, kid!



Arminius said:
And the poor are growing richer as well, hence the point. :palm:
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So many say. That's why trumpf was elected, as you know - because those who knew the truth were too brainwashed to do anything sensible about it! :)
 
"To the barricades, workers of the world, unite,"

Tell that to the starving people of Venezuela.
 
Arminius said:
Honoring people's God-given property rights is "thievery?" Again, devastating logic there, Socrates.
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God-given my Native-American arse! Your 'property' was stolen from those who lived in it and worked by those you enslaved, as well you know, and you have gone on thieving ever since.

Arminius said:
You mean have a dictator pretend to represent the working class while actually just serving himself.
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No dictator represents the working class - they represent capitalists, always.

Arminius said:
Violating everyone's rights with forced redistribution of wealth at gunpoint requires no government? ]
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Socialism asserts our right to be human again, child. In your case this will be difficult, but you'll get there. Nobody plans to 'redistribute' wealth - just use it as we need for the general good. From each according to his (& her) ability, to each according to his/her need. Poor kid, you have been deeply, deeply brainwashed in that capitalist hell-hole!
 
Penderyn said:
Reparations partly, but mainly your slump.
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"My slump," meaning the nanny state-induced Great Depression. The Federal Reserve was created in 1913, and it recklessly lowered interest rates, creating an explosive, unsustainable bubble and a massive increase in the money supply leading up to the crash. As with many of Herbert Hoover's nanny state meddling in the economy, GOVERNMENT created that mess, as with most others...and then worsened and prolonged it with even more government intervention.

Sorry brainwashed chump, but British and French attacks on the German economy, along with ANTI-capitalist measures destroying the world economy...do not qualify as "capitalism" being the problem. :palm:

Penderyn said:
What did Hitler DO, child?
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He created a socialist nanny state that also was extremely racist. Hence his many socialist policies being identical to the socialist policies of other socialist countries. :cool:

Try to keep up. :laugh:

Penderyn said:
That's why trumpf was elected, as you know - because those who knew the truth were too brainwashed to do anything sensible about it! :)
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For the record...

1) DEMOCRATS rely on ignorance and misinformation, hence:

-the Russia collusion hoax,
-the "Investigating Biden's corruption is worse than Biden BEING corrupt" hoax,
-the Covington Catholic hoax,
-the Roy Moore pedophile hoax,
-the Kavanaugh rape gang hoax,
-the "repealing Net Neutrality will destroy the Internet" hoax,
-the Jussie Smollett hoax,
-the Charlottesville "very fine people" hoax,
-the Duke Lacrosse team hoax,
-the fake Ukraine transcript hoax,
-the Trayvon Martin hoax,
-the "Trump admitted to sexual assault" hoax,
-the "penises cause climate change" hoax,
-the "uninsured crisis" hoax,
-the "Trump denying passports to Latinos" hoax,
-the multitude of college hate crime hoaxes,
-the "Mission Accomplished" hoax,
-the "deceptively edited video" Planned Parenthood hoax,
-the "children in cages" hoax,
-the Michael Cohen perjury/contacting the Russians hoaxes,
-the SPLC "hate group" hoax,
-the "Trump mocking people with disabilities" hoax,
-the "you can keep your doctor" hoax,
-the "immigrants are rapists, criminals, animals" hoax,
-the Kavanaugh "white power symbol" hoax,
-the "Trump asked Putin to hack the DNC" hoax,
-the polar bear dying from climate change hoax,
-the "Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to purchase guns" hoax,
-the Scaramucci Russian bankers hoax,
-the "Muslim ban" hoax,
-the global warming "consensus" hoax,
-the "Obama's scandal-free presidency" hoax,
-the Trump Jr. WikiLeaks hoax,
-the Iran nuclear appeasement hoax,
-the "polls show Trump will lose" hoax,
-the "Obamacare will never fund abortions or illegal immigrants" hoax,
-the "Hillary exonerated" hoax,
-the "white privilege" hoax,
-the voter suppression hoax,
-and the "hands up don't shoot" hoax.

2) DEMOCRATS have far more in common with Nazis than anyone:

-Democrats support government-run everything.——Nazis support government-run everything.——President Trump stands for free markets, limited government.

-Democrats support gun confiscation.——Nazis support gun confiscation.——President Trump stands for armed, free citizens.

-Democrats support abortion.——Nazis support abortion.——President Trump is anti-abortion.

-Democrats support censorship.——Nazis support censorship.——President Trump stands for free speech.

-Democrats support nanny state handouts.——Nazis support nanny state handouts.——President Trump stands for self-reliance.

-Democrats support racist preferential treatment.——Nazis support racist preferential treatment.——President Trump stands for actual equality.

-Democrats support taxpayer-funded indoctrination.——Nazis support taxpayer-funded indoctrination.——President Trump stands for school choice, actual education.

-Democrats support illegal, unprovoked wars.——Nazis support illegal, unprovoked wars.——President Trump stands for historic progress toward peace, as with Korea.

-Democrats support no freedom of religion.——Nazis support no freedom of religion.——President Trump stands for free religious exercise.

-Democrats support rigged news media.——Nazis support rigged news media.——President Trump stands for freedom of the press.

-Democrats support propagandized entertainment.——Nazis support propagandized entertainment.——President Trump stands for agenda-free entertainment.

-Democrats support a rigged justice system.——Nazis support a rigged justice system.——President Trump stands for equal protection under the law.

-Democrats support persecution of dissent.——Nazis support persecution of dissent.——President Trump stands for vigorous, open debate.

-Democrats support violent mob rule.——Nazis support violent mob rule.——President Trump stands for the rule of law.

-Democrats support employment quotas, guarantees.——Nazis support employment quotas, guarantees.——President Trump stands for merit-based employment.

-Democrats support redistribution of wealth.——Nazis support redistribution of wealth.——President Trump stands for 'You keep what you earn.'

-Democrats support taking over corporations.——Nazis support taking over corporations.——President Trump stands for protecting property rights.

-Democrats support mandatory profit-sharing.——Nazis support mandatory profit-sharing.——President Trump stands for running your own business.

-Democrats support government pensions for all.——Nazis support government pensions for all.——President Trump stands for self-reliance, 401k.
 
Penderyn said:
God-given my Native-American arse! Your 'property' was stolen from those who lived in it and worked by those you enslaved, as well you know, and you have gone on thieving ever since.
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People don't have universal rights if anyone ever won a war or made a land deal to acquire someone else's land? Impeccable logic, as always. :laugh:

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Penderyn said:
No dictator represents the working class - they represent capitalists, always.
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Stalin was a capitalist? Nice logic. :rofl2:

Penderyn said:
Socialism asserts our right to be human again, child.
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*To eat out of garbage and have zero rights or dignity. ;)

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Arminius said:
"My slump," meaning the nanny state-induced Great Depression. The Federal Reserve was created in 1913, and it recklessly lowered interest rates, creating an explosive, unsustainable bubble and a massive increase in the money supply leading up to the crash. As with many of Herbert Hoover's nanny state meddling in the economy, GOVERNMENT created that mess, as with most others...and then worsened and prolonged it with even more government intervention.

Sorry brainwashed chump, but British and French attacks on the German economy, along with ANTI-capitalist measures destroying the world economy...do not qualify as "capitalism" being the problem. :palm:



He created a socialist nanny state that also was extremely racist. Hence his many socialist policies being identical to the socialist policies of other socialist countries. :cool:

Try to keep up. :laugh:



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For the record...

1) DEMOCRATS rely on ignorance and misinformation, hence:

-the Russia collusion hoax,
-the "Investigating Biden's corruption is worse than Biden BEING corrupt" hoax,
-the Covington Catholic hoax,
-the Roy Moore pedophile hoax,
-the Kavanaugh rape gang hoax,
-the "repealing Net Neutrality will destroy the Internet" hoax,
-the Jussie Smollett hoax,
-the Charlottesville "very fine people" hoax,
-the Duke Lacrosse team hoax,
-the fake Ukraine transcript hoax,
-the Trayvon Martin hoax,
-the "Trump admitted to sexual assault" hoax,
-the "penises cause climate change" hoax,
-the "uninsured crisis" hoax,
-the "Trump denying passports to Latinos" hoax,
-the multitude of college hate crime hoaxes,
-the "Mission Accomplished" hoax,
-the "deceptively edited video" Planned Parenthood hoax,
-the "children in cages" hoax,
-the Michael Cohen perjury/contacting the Russians hoaxes,
-the SPLC "hate group" hoax,
-the "Trump mocking people with disabilities" hoax,
-the "you can keep your doctor" hoax,
-the "immigrants are rapists, criminals, animals" hoax,
-the Kavanaugh "white power symbol" hoax,
-the "Trump asked Putin to hack the DNC" hoax,
-the polar bear dying from climate change hoax,
-the "Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to purchase guns" hoax,
-the Scaramucci Russian bankers hoax,
-the "Muslim ban" hoax,
-the global warming "consensus" hoax,
-the "Obama's scandal-free presidency" hoax,
-the Trump Jr. WikiLeaks hoax,
-the Iran nuclear appeasement hoax,
-the "polls show Trump will lose" hoax,
-the "Obamacare will never fund abortions or illegal immigrants" hoax,
-the "Hillary exonerated" hoax,
-the "white privilege" hoax,
-the voter suppression hoax,
-and the "hands up don't shoot" hoax.

2) DEMOCRATS have far more in common with Nazis than anyone:

-Democrats support government-run everything.——Nazis support government-run everything.——President Trump stands for free markets, limited government.

-Democrats support gun confiscation.——Nazis support gun confiscation.——President Trump stands for armed, free citizens.

-Democrats support abortion.——Nazis support abortion.——President Trump is anti-abortion.

-Democrats support censorship.——Nazis support censorship.——President Trump stands for free speech.

-Democrats support nanny state handouts.——Nazis support nanny state handouts.——President Trump stands for self-reliance.

-Democrats support racist preferential treatment.——Nazis support racist preferential treatment.——President Trump stands for actual equality.

-Democrats support taxpayer-funded indoctrination.——Nazis support taxpayer-funded indoctrination.——President Trump stands for school choice, actual education.

-Democrats support illegal, unprovoked wars.——Nazis support illegal, unprovoked wars.——President Trump stands for historic progress toward peace, as with Korea.

-Democrats support no freedom of religion.——Nazis support no freedom of religion.——President Trump stands for free religious exercise.

-Democrats support rigged news media.——Nazis support rigged news media.——President Trump stands for freedom of the press.

-Democrats support propagandized entertainment.——Nazis support propagandized entertainment.——President Trump stands for agenda-free entertainment.

-Democrats support a rigged justice system.——Nazis support a rigged justice system.——President Trump stands for equal protection under the law.

-Democrats support persecution of dissent.——Nazis support persecution of dissent.——President Trump stands for vigorous, open debate.

-Democrats support violent mob rule.——Nazis support violent mob rule.——President Trump stands for the rule of law.

-Democrats support employment quotas, guarantees.——Nazis support employment quotas, guarantees.——President Trump stands for merit-based employment.

-Democrats support redistribution of wealth.——Nazis support redistribution of wealth.——President Trump stands for 'You keep what you earn.'

-Democrats support taking over corporations.——Nazis support taking over corporations.——President Trump stands for protecting property rights.

-Democrats support mandatory profit-sharing.——Nazis support mandatory profit-sharing.——President Trump stands for running your own business.

-Democrats support government pensions for all.——Nazis support government pensions for all.——President Trump stands for self-reliance, 401k.
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That is quite a remarkable dreamworld you live in, kiddiewinks, and a very verbose one! :) The Great Depression was an extreme version of what normal capitalism does, there were no 'anti-capitalist measures' in that very nasty capitalist time, and if you think that racist nutter had anything to do with socialism, try to explain why Big Business was behind him. I'm afraid, kid, that you need psychological help. I suppose you won't get it unless you go and shoot up a school, or something equally all-American!
 
Arminius said:
People don't have universal rights if anyone ever won a war or made a land deal to acquire someone else's land? Impeccable logic, as always. :laugh:

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Stalin was a capitalist? Nice logic. :rofl2:



*To eat out of garbage and have zero rights or dignity. ;)

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Property is theft, as you just proved. Stalin was a typical State Capitalist, obviously. It must be weird to be as brainwashed as you are. pwrdab!
 
Penderyn said:
The Great Depression was an extreme version of what normal capitalism does
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Except for the part about government causing it, making it longer, and deepening it at every turn, sure. :laugh:

Penderyn said:
there were no 'anti-capitalist measures' in that very nasty capitalist time
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Except for all the ones enacted by Hoover, FDR, etc., that created the Great Depression and made it far worse, sure. :stup2:

Penderyn said:
and if you think that racist nutter had anything to do with socialism, try to explain why Big Business was behind him.
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Socialism was literally IN THE NAME (Nazi = National Socialist), and socialist policies were omnipresent throughout the Nazi platform, as I have already demonstrated. You don't get to just pretend away the evidence. :laugh:

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