First day of hearings is over.....

[Into the Night]

True. Also what isn't old news but forgotten news is that Trump gave birth to the Stolen Election before, not after, the election happened.

No. The Democrats did.

At yesterday's hearing, the committee showed a clip of Trump making a speech in late August, saying, "the only way we can lose this election is if it is rigged!"

He said that because Democrats have rigged elections in the past. In the 2020 election, election fraud was so bad the election faulted.

This was at a time when Biden was leading, and had been leading, in all the polls.

Fake ballots don't count.

Trump was trailing even in his party's own internal polls.

Argument from randU fallacy. Stop making shit up.

The betting odds in Vegas favored Biden.

Math errors: Failure to declare boundary. Failure to declare randX. Logic errors: Void authority fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy.

This didn't necessarily mean Trump would lose.

You can't lose what never took place.

The race could change before election day. But it certainly meant Biden could win a fair election.

There was no fair election. The election faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.

So what was Trump doing? He was planting the seed of The Big Lie, and because his audience was what it is, the seed was planted in fertile ground.

No. He was warning about the usual election fraud by Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

True. Also what isn't old news but forgotten news is that Trump gave birth to the Stolen Election before, not after, the election happened.

No. The Democrats did.

At yesterday's hearing, the committee showed a clip of Trump making a speech in late August, saying, "the only way we can lose this election is if it is rigged!"

He said that because Democrats have rigged elections in the past. In the 2020 election, election fraud was so bad the election faulted.

This was at a time when Biden was leading, and had been leading, in all the polls.

Fake ballots don't count.

Trump was trailing even in his party's own internal polls.

Argument from randU fallacy. Stop making shit up.

The betting odds in Vegas favored Biden.

Math errors: Failure to declare boundary. Failure to declare randX. Logic errors: Void authority fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy.

This didn't necessarily mean Trump would lose.

You can't lose what never took place.

The race could change before election day. But it certainly meant Biden could win a fair election.

There was no fair election. The election faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.

So what was Trump doing? He was planting the seed of The Big Lie, and because his audience was what it is, the seed was planted in fertile ground.

No. He was warning about the usual election fraud by Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

Agreed. As the hearings showed, Trump pushed that same lie before the 2016 election with his claim that if he lost then the election was rigged. The fact so many Americans believe his bullshit is the most disturbing part to me.

IMO, it shows a distinct lack of education among US adults.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/npr-misinformation-123020

Democrats are well known for election fraud.

 

[Into the Night]

Adding to the above:

Does anyone think Trump would have made that speech had he been leading in the polls, the betting favorite in Vegas? Not a chance, in my opinion. That is the dishonest speech of a worried man. If the polls had been rosy for him, he the betting favorite, he would have been brimming with confidence, and cocky as hell.

Las Vegas does not choose the President.

 

[Into the Night]

Wow, that was like watching a tactical nuclear strike.

You can't wish the evidence away by pointing at people, dude.

 

[Coolred44]

we've had dozens of threads on both those issues since 1/6.......you've posted in some of them.....

I had no idea that everybody around him was telling him he lost and if you all already knew it...then why continue pushing the election fraud? Also, I had no idea the Election Defense Fund didn't exist. I assumed the money would be spent on whatever Trump wanted to spend it on but not that it didn't exist. If you all already knew that then why keep sending money to it?

 

[LurchAddams]

I don't bother with Witch Hunt Trials.


You can't wish the evidence away by pointing at people, dude.

LOL. You nut. No one's "wishing evidence away". If you have some, lets see it.

You're just all MAGA talk though.

 

[LurchAddams]

You can't wish the evidence away by insulting people, dude.

What evidence?

 

[LurchAddams]

While cults often do have a central strong leader, that is not necessary for a cult.

Do you do anything else all day and all night other than plan how to be a contrarian?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

...then why continue pushing the election fraud?

I pushed it because it was an unconstitutional election....why did you cover it up......

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You’re like a miffed chic, flailing and insulting because she didn’t get her way. Biden wins without Wisconsin. The Pennsylvania case is as good as dead, the mail in statute Republican legislators applauded until Biden got the votes sure to be upheld, your precious legalism we’ve been hearing about all these months on its way down the drain. If you’d care for a fuller explanation say so, nicely.

Biden can't win what never took place. He was not elected. He was installed.

No tell him to click your signature link so he can be "debunked"....just like you "debunked" Obama's Presidential eligibility. LOL

https://politiplex.freeforums.net/thread/94/obamas-presidential-eligibility-debunked

Barack Hussein Obama was not eligible to be President of the United States. He never produced a valid, original born-in-the-US birth certificate as he was required in order to be eligible to take office.

There were various theories and speculations about Obama having been born in Kenya or elsewhere outside of the US but none of them are relevant. The only issue of relevance is the Constitutional requirement of all candidates for the office of President to show they are eligible for the office by virtue of natural birth in the US.

 

[Damocles]

Remember how they pretended that 20 Million cable viewers for the first day was a big deal? It was actually about 500K less than normally watch all those channels... Not such the big deal they were getting excited about. They added them all together as if it were one channel and said that it "beat" a competitor. However taken as it is normally, channel by channel, they all lost some viewership for their Democrat Telethon.

 

[martin]

sorry......no......but even if you were right.....at the present moment the fact remains that the election of 2020 was unconstitutional......which means the PastyFaced Pedophile is the first president put in office by means other than a legal constitutional election......

Your powers of reasoning leave something to be desired but I assumed you knew how to add and subtract. Your argument here has been that Biden's victories in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were unconstitutional, hence his election undeserved. Take a look at the EC votes for both states, subtract them from Biden's total of 306, and his total vote is still in excess of the 270 needed to win.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Your powers of reasoning leave something to be desired but I assumed you knew how to add and subtract. Your argument here has been that Biden's victories in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were unconstitutional, hence his election undeserved. Take a look at the EC votes for both states, subtract them from Biden's total of 306, and his total vote is still in excess of the 270 needed to win.

Math makes PmP's head hurt. Jus' sayin'. Pictures are easier for Trumpers to understand.

 

[Coolred44]

I pushed it because it was an unconstitutional election....why did you cover it up......

If that is the case then why has it not stood up in court? Why aren't Republicans pushing hard on that? I don't see them on every news show banging that drum. Why is it just you all on here who are pushing that point?

 

[martin]

If that is the case then why has it not stood up in court? Why aren't Republicans pushing hard on that? I don't see them on every news show banging that drum. Why is it just you all on here who are pushing that point?

It’s his self confidence minus knowing what one is talking about which he doesn’t or, to put it another way, being simultaneously snide and clueless.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

If that is the case then why has it not stood up in court?

????.....it did.....we've actually just been discussing that fact......

 

[Dutch Uncle]

????.....it did.....we've actually just been discussing that fact......

The fact is Trump lost all 60 cases, Rudy is being disbarred and this whole mess is going to come crashing down on the perpetrators/traitors.

While I doubt Trump will be held accountable for his crimes in court, I will certainly be cheering the trial and convictions of all the traitors who helped him.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The fact is Trump lost all 60 cases

two cases......people who want constitutional elections won both.......

 

[Dutch Uncle]

two cases......people who want constitutional elections won both.......

Is that what Tucker said or was it Alex?