Feminists applaud Trump for support of Iranian dissidents

Meanwhile, "oppressed" women in America think Trump is worse than the mullahs who order the execution of women for adultery, etc.


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Cypress said:
Sorry, I do not need you mansplaining to me about the heroic efforts of Donald J. Trump to fight for Iranian women's rights.
Why don't you let women in Iran, in Saudi Arabia, and in the United States define what issues are important to them, and what greivances they want to petition their governments over? Nobody is ever, never, ever ever, going to take Trump seriously as a passionate fighter for women's rights in Iran, in the United States, or anywhere on the fucking planet. So begging people to give Trump applause just makes you look pathetic and weak. Since your only source of news appears to be breitbart, let me clue you into something. The educated left is frequently talking about, writing about Muslim women's civil rights, in Huffington Post, in Aljazeera, in feminist blogs, and in prominent international human rights watch dog NGOs - purportedly all leftwing, Kenyan Marxists entities. And "sudden" concern rightwingers have for Iranian women's rights strikes me as less than genuine, and entirely opportunistic and cynical.
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Let's hear about your own storied interactions with women.
 
anatta said:
*meh* I can't get upset about lack of US women's rights
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This very long article really nails it, US feminists stay silent because their continual bitching and whining is trivial and petty compared to the true suffering in the Muslim world.

Why Feminism is AWOL on Islam

U.S. feminists should be protesting the brutal oppression of Middle Eastern women. But doing so would reveal how little they have to complain about at home.

Kay S. Hymowitz

Argue all you want with many feminist policies, but few quarrel with feminism’s core moral insight, which changed the lives (and minds) of women forever: that women are due the same rights and dignity as men. So, as news of the appalling miseries of women in the Islamic world has piled up, where are the feminists? Where’s the outrage? For a brief moment after September 11, when pictures of those blue alien-creaturely shapes in Afghanistan filled the papers, it seemed as if feminists were going to have their moment. And in fact the Feminist Majority, to its credit, had been publicizing since the mid-90s how Afghan girls were barred from school, how women were stoned for adultery or beaten for showing an ankle or wearing high-heeled shoes, how they were prohibited from leaving the house unless accompanied by a male relative, how they were denied medical help because the only doctors around were male.

But the rest is feminist silence. You haven’t heard a peep from feminists as it has grown clear that the Taliban were exceptional not in their extreme views about women but in their success at embodying those views in law and practice. In the United Arab Emirates, husbands have the right to beat their wives in order to discipline them—“provided that the beating is not so severe as to damage her bones or deform her body,” in the words of the*Gulf News. In Saudi Arabia, women cannot vote, drive, or show their faces or talk with male non-relatives in public. (Evidently they can’t talk to men over the airwaves either; when Prince Abdullah went to President Bush’s ranch in Crawford last April, he insisted that no female air-traffic controllers handle his flight.) Yes, Saudi girls can go to school, and many even attend the university; but at the university, women must sit in segregated rooms and watch their professors on closed-circuit televisions. If they have a question, they push a button on their desk, which turns on a light at the professor’s lectern, from which he can answer the female without being in her dangerous presence. And in Saudi Arabia, education can be harmful to female health. Last spring in Mecca, members of the*mutaween, the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue, pushed fleeing students back into their burning school because they were not properly covered in*abaya. Fifteen girls died.@
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Read more: https://www.city-journal.org/html/why-feminism-awol-islam-12395.html

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Covfefe said:
I ignore him for this very reason, his posting has really deterriated in the last couple of years.
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Good call! Life is too precious and beautiful to waste reading the irate, barely comprehensible rants of resentful and obsessive losers.

To paraphrase the legendary words of Barbara Bush, why would you want to waste your beautiful mind on it?
 
So, American women don't have it as bad as Muslim women - so they should be grateful & shut up, and not care about equal rights?

The world according to Tom.
 
Covfefe said:
I ignore him for this very reason, his posting has really deterriated in the last couple of years.
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I have just become completely fed up with the arrant nonsense spouted in the name of political correctness. Third wave feminism is truly insane at times, common sense is a rare commodity these days.

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Thing1 said:
So, American women don't have it as bad as Muslim women - so they should be grateful & shut up, and not care about equal rights?

The world according to Tom.
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Read the article I posted arsehole, stop trying to distort what I say.


FROM THE MAGAZINE

Why Feminism is AWOL on Islam

U.S. feminists should be protesting the brutal oppression of Middle Eastern women. But doing so would reveal how little they have to complain about at home.

Kay S. Hymowitz

Argue all you want with many feminist policies, but few quarrel with feminism’s core moral insight, which changed the lives (and minds) of women forever: that women are due the same rights and dignity as men.

So, as news of the appalling miseries of women in the Islamic world has piled up, where are the feminists? Where’s the outrage? For a brief moment after September 11, when pictures of those blue alien-creaturely shapes in Afghanistan filled the papers, it seemed as if feminists were going to have their moment. And in fact the Feminist Majority, to its credit, had been publicizing since the mid-90s how Afghan girls were barred from school, how women were stoned for adultery or beaten for showing an ankle or wearing high-heeled shoes, how they were prohibited from leaving the house unless accompanied by a male relative, how they were denied medical help because the only doctors around were male.

But the rest is feminist silence. You haven’t heard a peep from feminists as it has grown clear that the Taliban were exceptional not in their extreme views about women but in their success at embodying those views in law and practice. In the United Arab Emirates, husbands have the right to beat their wives in order to discipline them—“provided that the beating is not so severe as to damage her bones or deform her body,” in the words of the*Gulf News. In Saudi Arabia, women cannot vote, drive, or show their faces or talk with male non-relatives in public. (Evidently they can’t talk to men over the airwaves either; when Prince Abdullah went to President Bush’s ranch in Crawford last April, he insisted that no female air-traffic controllers handle his flight.) Yes, Saudi girls can go to school, and many even attend the university; but at the university, women must sit in segregated rooms and watch their professors on closed-circuit televisions. If they have a question, they push a button on their desk, which turns on a light at the professor’s lectern, from which he can answer the female without being in her dangerous presence. And in Saudi Arabia, education can be harmful to female health. Last spring in Mecca, members of the*mutaween, the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue, pushed fleeing students back into their burning school because they were not properly covered in*abaya. Fifteen girls died.



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Shape Shifter said:
Read the article I posted arsehole, stop trying to distort what I say.


FROM THE MAGAZINE

Why Feminism is AWOL on Islam

U.S. feminists should be protesting the brutal oppression of Middle Eastern women. But doing so would reveal how little they have to complain about at home.

Kay S. Hymowitz

Argue all you want with many feminist policies, but few quarrel with feminism’s core moral insight, which changed the lives (and minds) of women forever: that women are due the same rights and dignity as men. So, as news of the appalling miseries of women in the Islamic world has piled up, where are the feminists? Where’s the outrage? For a brief moment after September 11, when pictures of those blue alien-creaturely shapes in Afghanistan filled the papers, it seemed as if feminists were going to have their moment. And in fact the Feminist Majority, to its credit, had been publicizing since the mid-90s how Afghan girls were barred from school, how women were stoned for adultery or beaten for showing an ankle or wearing high-heeled shoes, how they were prohibited from leaving the house unless accompanied by a male relative, how they were denied medical help because the only doctors around were male.

But the rest is feminist silence. You haven’t heard a peep from feminists as it has grown clear that the Taliban were exceptional not in their extreme views about women but in their success at embodying those views in law and practice. In the United Arab Emirates, husbands have the right to beat their wives in order to discipline them—“provided that the beating is not so severe as to damage her bones or deform her body,” in the words of the*Gulf News. In Saudi Arabia, women cannot vote, drive, or show their faces or talk with male non-relatives in public. (Evidently they can’t talk to men over the airwaves either; when Prince Abdullah went to President Bush’s ranch in Crawford last April, he insisted that no female air-traffic controllers handle his flight.) Yes, Saudi girls can go to school, and many even attend the university; but at the university, women must sit in segregated rooms and watch their professors on closed-circuit televisions. If they have a question, they push a button on their desk, which turns on a light at the professor’s lectern, from which he can answer the female without being in her dangerous presence. And in Saudi Arabia, education can be harmful to female health. Last spring in Mecca, members of the*mutaween, the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue, pushed fleeing students back into their burning school because they were not properly covered in*abaya. Fifteen girls died.



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People often protest for THEIR OWN RIGHTS. It's a strawman to try to argue that they're hypocrites because they don't hit the streets trying to stop injustice for everyone, all around the globe, all the time.

Lazy thinking.
 
Thing1 said:
People often protest for THEIR OWN RIGHTS. It's a strawman to try to argue that they're hypocrites because they don't hit the streets trying to stop injustice for everyone, all around the globe, all the time.

Lazy thinking.
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You obviously didn't read the article, lazy toerag!

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Thing1 said:
People often protest for THEIR OWN RIGHTS. It's a strawman to try to argue that they're hypocrites because they don't hit the streets trying to stop injustice for everyone, all around the globe, all the time.

Lazy thinking.
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There were speakers at the Women’s March who addressed Islam. It is usually a topic when women’s rights issues are discussed. People just don’t pay attention.
 
Thing1 said:
I did; and that's basically what it's saying.

Anyone who protests injustice must protest ALL injustice, everywhere, all the time - or they are hypocrites.
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That's crap, I never ever seen a prominent feminist apart from the likes of Germaine Greer, Christina Hoff-Summers or Camille Paglia ever say anything. Can you point to any demonstration in US universities against the treatment of Muslim women? No you can't, because it never bloody happens.

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Thing1 said:
People often protest for THEIR OWN RIGHTS. It's a strawman to try to argue that they're hypocrites because they don't hit the streets trying to stop injustice for everyone, all around the globe, all the time.

Lazy thinking.
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Women in the US are the most pampered on the planet, yet they never stop whinging.

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Shape Shifter said:
That's crap, I never ever seen a prominent feminist apart from the likes of Germaine Greer, Christina Hoff-Summers or Camille Paglia ever say anything. Can you point to any demonstration in US universities against the treatment of Muslim women? No you can't, because it never bloody happens.

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Wow - you can't even understand what I wrote.

Read my posts again, Tom. It is not their responsibility to do so.
 
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