EU states are against piece in Ukraine

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As you are well aware, since July 1, 2024 Hungary takes over the EU presidency. Its Prime Minister, Viktor Orban used his great timing to become an intermediary in the negotiations between Ukraine and Russia about cease-fire. First he visited Kyiv and in two days landed in Moscow (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-as-eu-leaders-accuse-him-of-undermining-bloc).

The other EU members look displeased about such a behavior. Some of them claim that Orban had no mandate to act this way and that he doesn’t represent EU.

You know, as a US citizen I don’t really get it. In contrast to the States, these conceited Europeans hadn’t contributed much to support Ukraine. And now they are the ones who show everyone how to resolve Ukrainian crisis. I think they have to shut up and be glad that there is a politician who takes actual steps to stop the war.

Also, I got annoyed by Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskiy. He received an enormous amount of military support from the US and NATO members, promised to have success in his counteroffensives, but now he and his cronies had cleaned out all the funding leading to a rapid devastation of Ukraine. Zelenskiy had lost almost everything, however he still refuses to have peace negotiations which he was offered to launch a few times by many countries, the US included.

We all must understand what we really want from Ukrainian nation, war or peace? To me, the answer is obvious. It’s time for us to replace this arrogant thief Zelenskiy and sit his country down to negotiate instead of making Ukraine even more corrupt. In this respect, Orban’s call is the right one, and we must support Hungary in its peace-making efforts.

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Working on my education again:

Russia OBLITERATES Ukraine's Forces While NATO Is CLUELESS! | Col. Jacques Baud​

 

Attention all the dupes with Ukraine flags in your profile, you’ve been had once again by the war machine. After being lied into war TWICE in Iraq, lied into Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, lied to for 20 yrs about Afghanistan,you fell for it AGAIN with Ukraine. Here’s the REAL REASON for the war in Ukraine & what you’re NOT being told by your favorite corporate news outlet:

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We are in the verge of WW 3 with Russia. Why? Because we want to expand NATO into Ukraine. That’s it. That’s the reasons you and your kids may die. Ukraine didn’t even want to join NATO. They thought it was too inflammatory against their Russian neighbors. That’s why the elected Viktor Yanukovych. He was a president who ran on peace and not joining NATO. Shortly after the United States incited a Coup, and he was replaced….

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Z also ran on peace....till about three days after he was proclaimed the winner.......then he flipped 180 degrees.
 
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Ouch! Orban in Germany's Die Welt: with regards to Ukraine "China has a peace plan, America has a war policy, and Europe, instead of having its own strategic approach, is simply copying the American position."No lie detected, sadly.https://welt.de/politik/ausland/plus252403322/Viktor-Orban-im-Interview-Mit-Angela-Merkel-waere-es-nie-zu-einer-Invasion-Russlands-gekommen.html…And worse of all, the US and some in the EU are gaslighting the world by saying that China is "instigating the war", which is pure Orwellian doublespeak... When China is the only major country that has advocated for peace consistently throughout. And presented a very reasonable peace plan (with Ukraine's territorial integrity as point number 1!) that was immediately dismissed out of hand by the US and the EU...
 
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