Dershowitz: Obama Will Go Down In History As One Of The Worst Foreign Policy Pres...

Thing1 said:
It's not the truth. No one "followed the proper procedure."

That was a war of choice, where the intel was "fixed around the policy."
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The proper procedure was in fact followed, and a majority of Congress voted to go to war in Iraq.

Thing1 said:
That war was a disaster; I'm tired of the apologism for it. It's also not credible that you didn't have a strong opinion. It was Bush's war - I have little doubt that you were all in.

And you were wrong. Really, really wrong.
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Nope, the war, (as most wars are) was difficult, butt: Obamaprompter was handed a success in Iraq, and promptly turned the success into a fail, as he has done with most things over the last eight years.
 
OldMercsRule said:
Only you termites were 'relieved', (turning a success into a fail), the rest of us knew it was a huge mistake to totally pull out of Iraq. Which it was.
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Fucking liar. Everyone was glad to get out of that shithole, but nope, give no credit to Obama. This was on Bush's schedule.
 
OldMercsRule said:
The proper procedure was in fact followed, and a majority of Congress voted to go to war in Iraq.



Nope, the war, (as most wars are) was difficult, butt: Obamaprompter was handed a success in Iraq, and promptly turned the success into a fail, as he has done with most things over the last eight years.
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Another RW lie. They gave the authority to Bush to use his discretion. A huge mistake, nonetheless. Bush was a puppet of the war-mongers Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld.
 
GazzaQueen said:
And Dershowitz is only talking about foreign policy.

During Obama's tenure, Democrats have lost over 1,000 seats nationwide.

That's what you call winning.
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Hopefully the majority of American voters have learned what a massive fail the hard Left's policies are.

Dim wit Democrats are in a very bad situation right now, and the petulance of Obamaprompter earns him the distinction of bein' the worst shit stain in American history regarding foreign policy.
 
anatta said:
Israel is small potatos. In the end they always get thr "special relationship" to guarantee their security from the US
I'm not going to re-write this, but here's a partial look at Obama's cluster: this on Russia alone


http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-no-dummy-he-s-learned-quickly-watching-Putin

And then of course there was Libya. Creating a failed terrorist state.
Obama has been a clusterf*ck of errors
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Idiot squeak toy
Israel is the single biggest impediment to ME peace you fucking minimalist apologist liar

Truth be told history will applaud this action as the beginning or turning point.
In fact this is a monumentuous action.
You are seriously stupid to claim "Isreal is small potatoes".
Stupid insipid child-man
 
Thing1 said:
All righties are capable of doing now is rewriting the history on Iraq.

I guess the reality of it is too much to deal w/.
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Facts are no longer necessary. Believe what you want and make up your own facts. It's the Make America Great, Again, way!
 
anatta said:
the SOFA was not going to be re-negotiated. Obama had no desire -sure -but the opposition from Maliki and al-Sadr sealed it's fate.
Don't forget the de-Baathification of the army under Maliki. It was pure sectarianism at work
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But if Obama had no desire for a renegotiation, then any attempt was for show.

This is classic Obama-ism: always the impotent by-stander when things go south in foreign policy. So we were forced to pull out of Iraq, since it was inevitable [as were the results, as predicted by Bush] and there was absolutely nothing to be done about it?

Sorry, I don't buy that. The way to go into a negotiation is with the full understanding of what happens if you don't achieve your objective. If Obama had that understanding but still didn't care HE REALLY IS the worst foreign policy president. And if he was ignorant or chose to ignore Bush's warning, it doesn't help his case any.

This never would have happened under a theoretical Bush third term. Bush, as much as anyone, knew damn well what was at stake and when that is the case, you do whatever needs to be done to achieve your diplomatic objective. And no way would Trump come out on the short end of that deal.
 
domer76 said:
Fucking liar. Everyone was glad to get out of that shithole, but nope, give no credit to Obama. This was on Bush's schedule.
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Yer the fucking liar: termite.

There was a great deal of reservations voiced when Obamaprompter totally pulled out, and ISIS came shortly thereafter as predicted.

Which made a termite like you very happy.

There were also massive reservations when Obamaprompter and puke Kerry gave the green light to Iran to develop nukes and also gave them the money to do it and pursue terrorism.

Big time fail, great fer you termites!!!
 
OldMercsRule said:
Yer the fucking liar: termite.

There was a great deal of reservations voiced when Obamaprompter totally pulled out, and ISIS came shortly thereafter as predicted.

Which made a termite like you very happy.

There were also massive reservations when Obamaprompter and puke Kerry gave the green light to Iran to develop nukes and also gave them the money to do it and pursue terrorism.

Big time fail, great fer you termites!!!
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10,000 kinds of horseshit. Revisionist motherfucker
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
But if Obama had no desire for a renegotiation, then any attempt was for show.

This is classic Obama-ism: always the impotent by-stander when things go south in foreign policy. So we were forced to pull out of Iraq, since it was inevitable [as were the results, as predicted by Bush] and there was absolutely nothing to be done about it?

Sorry, I don't buy that. The way to go into a negotiation is with the full understanding of what happens if you don't achieve your objective. If Obama had that understanding but still didn't care HE REALLY IS the worst foreign policy president. And if he was ignorant or chose to ignore Bush's warning, it doesn't help his case any.

This never would have happened under a theoretical Bush third term. Bush, as much as anyone, knew damn well what was at stake and when that is the case, you do whatever needs to be done to achieve your diplomatic objective. And no way would Trump come out on the short end of that deal.
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Bush didn't know anything. His admin was woefully wrong about how long we'd be in Iraq from the start.

He was wrong about virtually everything when it came to Iraq.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
But if Obama had no desire for a renegotiation, then any attempt was for show.

This is classic Obama-ism: always the impotent by-stander when things go south in foreign policy. So we were forced to pull out of Iraq, since it was inevitable [as were the results, as predicted by Bush] and there was absolutely nothing to be done about it?

Sorry, I don't buy that. The way to go into a negotiation is with the full understanding of what happens if you don't achieve your objective. If Obama had that understanding but still didn't care HE REALLY IS the worst foreign policy president. And if he was ignorant or chose to ignore Bush's warning, it doesn't help his case any.

This never would have happened under a theoretical Bush third term. Bush, as much as anyone, knew damn well what was at stake and when that is the case, you do whatever needs to be done to achieve your diplomatic objective. And no way would Trump come out on the short end of that deal.
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You truly are mentally retarded
 
Thing1 said:
It's not the truth. No one "followed the proper procedure."

That was a war of choice, where the intel was "fixed around the policy." That war was a disaster; I'm tired of the apologism for it. It's also not credible that you didn't have a strong opinion. It was Bush's war - I have little doubt that you were all in.

And you were wrong. Really, really wrong.
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Nations that said Iraq had WMD's

Israel,
Egypt,
Syria,
Saudi Arabia,
Mexico,
Spain,
Canada,
U.S.A.
France,
England,
Russia,
Iran,
reland,
Kuwait

and on and on
they went on record and said Iraq had WMD.

I guess all fixing they're intell around policy...

History, you gotta love it.....
 
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