COVIDiots
Corona Virus Peak Watch Thread
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moon
Satire for Sanity
US COVID-19 cases and deaths increase, dimming economic recovery
More than 60,000 new coronavirus infections reported in US - the highest single-day tally of cases by any country.
More than 60,000 new COVID-19 infections were reported on Wednesday, the greatest single-day tally of cases by any country since the virus emerged late last year . US deaths rose by more than 900 for the second straight day.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...imming-economic-recovery-200709185713542.html
More than 60,000 new coronavirus infections reported in US - the highest single-day tally of cases by any country.
More than 60,000 new COVID-19 infections were reported on Wednesday, the greatest single-day tally of cases by any country since the virus emerged late last year . US deaths rose by more than 900 for the second straight day.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...imming-economic-recovery-200709185713542.html
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Phantasmal,
Mother Jones had a piece in a recent issue called 'Covidiocracy.'
Mother Jones had a piece in a recent issue called 'Covidiocracy.'
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello moon,
Time to open up the schools!
This is really good:
" First they came for the journalists...
We don't know what happened after that . "
Maria Ressa.
US COVID-19 cases and deaths increase, dimming economic recovery
More than 60,000 new coronavirus infections reported in US - the highest single-day tally of cases by any country.
More than 60,000 new COVID-19 infections were reported on Wednesday, the greatest single-day tally of cases by any country since the virus emerged late last year . US deaths rose by more than 900 for the second straight day.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...imming-economic-recovery-200709185713542.html
Time to open up the schools!
This is really good:
" First they came for the journalists...
We don't know what happened after that . "
Maria Ressa.
US COVID-19 cases and deaths increase, dimming economic recovery
More than 60,000 new coronavirus infections reported in US - the highest single-day tally of cases by any country.
More than 60,000 new COVID-19 infections were reported on Wednesday, the greatest single-day tally of cases by any country since the virus emerged late last year . US deaths rose by more than 900 for the second straight day.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...imming-economic-recovery-200709185713542.html
Because the U.S. gives false numbers by combining the confirmed & probable numbers together. Other countries do not!!!!!!!!!!!!
How are cases reported?
We have three levels of case definition: suspected, probable and confirmed cases. What is measured and reported by governments and international organizations?
International organizations – namely the WHO and European CDC – report case figures submitted by national governments. Wherever possible they aim to report confirmed cases, for two key reasons:
1. They have a higher degree of certainty because they have laboratory confirmation;
2. They held to provide standardised comparisons between countries.
However, international bodies can only provide figures as submitted by national governments and reporting institutions. Countries can define slightly different criteria for how cases are defined and reported. Some countries have, over the course of the outbreak, changed their reporting methodologies to also include probable cases.
One example of this is the United States. Until 14th April the US CDC provided daily reports on the number of confirmed cases. However, as of 14th April, it now provides a single figure of cases: the sum of confirmed and probable.
Suspected case figures are usually not reported. The European CDC notes that suspected cases should not be reported at the European level (although countries may record this information for national records) but are used to understand who should be tested for the disease.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cas...cases-reported
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Even your heroes at the NYT provide the disclaimer now....................
In data for the United States, The Times is now including cases and deaths that have been identified by public health officials as probable coronavirus patients. Some states and counties only report figures in which a coronavirus infection was confirmed through testing. Because confirmed cases are widely considered to be an undercount of the true toll, some state and local governments have started identifying probable cases and deaths using criteria that were developed by states and the federal government.
Confirmed cases and deaths are counts of individuals whose coronavirus infections were confirmed by a laboratory test. Probable cases and deaths count individuals who did not have a confirmed test but were evaluated using criteria developed by national and local governments. Some governments are reporting only confirmed cases, while others are reporting both confirmed and probable numbers. And there is also another set of governments that are reporting the two types of numbers combined without providing a way to separate the confirmed from the probable. The Times is now using the total of confirmed and probable counts when they are available individually or combined. Otherwise only the confirmed count will be shown.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...es.html#states
***********
So, if you don't like the ECDC who have stated the guidelines or
the left-wing NYT for confirming that those data methodology guidelines are correct......just what data are do you follow? Twitter & FB????
We have three levels of case definition: suspected, probable and confirmed cases. What is measured and reported by governments and international organizations?
International organizations – namely the WHO and European CDC – report case figures submitted by national governments. Wherever possible they aim to report confirmed cases, for two key reasons:
1. They have a higher degree of certainty because they have laboratory confirmation;
2. They held to provide standardised comparisons between countries.
However, international bodies can only provide figures as submitted by national governments and reporting institutions. Countries can define slightly different criteria for how cases are defined and reported. Some countries have, over the course of the outbreak, changed their reporting methodologies to also include probable cases.
One example of this is the United States. Until 14th April the US CDC provided daily reports on the number of confirmed cases. However, as of 14th April, it now provides a single figure of cases: the sum of confirmed and probable.
Suspected case figures are usually not reported. The European CDC notes that suspected cases should not be reported at the European level (although countries may record this information for national records) but are used to understand who should be tested for the disease.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cas...cases-reported
***********
Even your heroes at the NYT provide the disclaimer now....................
In data for the United States, The Times is now including cases and deaths that have been identified by public health officials as probable coronavirus patients. Some states and counties only report figures in which a coronavirus infection was confirmed through testing. Because confirmed cases are widely considered to be an undercount of the true toll, some state and local governments have started identifying probable cases and deaths using criteria that were developed by states and the federal government.
Confirmed cases and deaths are counts of individuals whose coronavirus infections were confirmed by a laboratory test. Probable cases and deaths count individuals who did not have a confirmed test but were evaluated using criteria developed by national and local governments. Some governments are reporting only confirmed cases, while others are reporting both confirmed and probable numbers. And there is also another set of governments that are reporting the two types of numbers combined without providing a way to separate the confirmed from the probable. The Times is now using the total of confirmed and probable counts when they are available individually or combined. Otherwise only the confirmed count will be shown.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...es.html#states
***********
So, if you don't like the ECDC who have stated the guidelines or
the left-wing NYT for confirming that those data methodology guidelines are correct......just what data are do you follow? Twitter & FB????
moon
Satire for Sanity
Because the U.S. gives false numbers by combining the confirmed & probable numbers together. Other countries do not!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which ones out the 900 reported deaths in one day are not dead ?
Which ones out the 900 reported deaths in one day are not dead...due to with or from WuFlu?
You don't know because the U.S. lumps them all together into one big "scary" total.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello moon,
"Hey, all you dead people: Any of you who are not really dead, please speak up so we can post accurate numbers!"
Hmmm.
I don't hear anybody.
I'm thinking the numbers are quite real.
And very tragic.
"Hey, all you dead people: Any of you who are not really dead, please speak up so we can post accurate numbers!"
Hmmm.
I don't hear anybody.
I'm thinking the numbers are quite real.
And very tragic.
How are cases reported?
We have three levels of case definition: suspected, probable and confirmed cases. What is measured and reported by governments and international organizations?
International organizations – namely the WHO and European CDC – report case figures submitted by national governments. Wherever possible they aim to report confirmed cases, for two key reasons:
1. They have a higher degree of certainty because they have laboratory confirmation;
2. They held to provide standardised comparisons between countries.
However, international bodies can only provide figures as submitted by national governments and reporting institutions. Countries can define slightly different criteria for how cases are defined and reported.4 Some countries have, over the course of the outbreak, changed their reporting methodologies to also include probable cases.
One example of this is the United States. Until 14th April the US CDC provided daily reports on the number of confirmed cases. However, as of 14th April, it now provides a single figure of cases: the sum of confirmed and probable.
Suspected case figures are usually not reported. The European CDC notes that suspected cases should not be reported at the European level (although countries may record this information for national records) but are used to understand who should be tested for the disease.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cas...cases-reported
***********
Even your heroes at the NYT provide the disclaimer now....................
In data for the United States, The Times is now including cases and deaths that have been identified by public health officials as probable coronavirus patients. Some states and counties only report figures in which a coronavirus infection was confirmed through testing. Because confirmed cases are widely considered to be an undercount of the true toll, some state and local governments have started identifying probable cases and deaths using criteria that were developed by states and the federal government.
Confirmed cases and deaths are counts of individuals whose coronavirus infections were confirmed by a laboratory test. Probable cases and deaths count individuals who did not have a confirmed test but were evaluated using criteria developed by national and local governments. Some governments are reporting only confirmed cases, while others are reporting both confirmed and probable numbers. And there is also another set of governments that are reporting the two types of numbers combined without providing a way to separate the confirmed from the probable. The Times is now using the total of confirmed and probable counts when they are available individually or combined. Otherwise only the confirmed count will be shown.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...es.html#states
***********
So, if you don't like the ECDC who have stated the guidelines or
the left-wing NYT for confirming that those data methodology guidelines are correct......just what data are do you follow? Twitter & FB????
We have three levels of case definition: suspected, probable and confirmed cases. What is measured and reported by governments and international organizations?
International organizations – namely the WHO and European CDC – report case figures submitted by national governments. Wherever possible they aim to report confirmed cases, for two key reasons:
1. They have a higher degree of certainty because they have laboratory confirmation;
2. They held to provide standardised comparisons between countries.
However, international bodies can only provide figures as submitted by national governments and reporting institutions. Countries can define slightly different criteria for how cases are defined and reported.4 Some countries have, over the course of the outbreak, changed their reporting methodologies to also include probable cases.
One example of this is the United States. Until 14th April the US CDC provided daily reports on the number of confirmed cases. However, as of 14th April, it now provides a single figure of cases: the sum of confirmed and probable.
Suspected case figures are usually not reported. The European CDC notes that suspected cases should not be reported at the European level (although countries may record this information for national records) but are used to understand who should be tested for the disease.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cas...cases-reported
***********
Even your heroes at the NYT provide the disclaimer now....................
In data for the United States, The Times is now including cases and deaths that have been identified by public health officials as probable coronavirus patients. Some states and counties only report figures in which a coronavirus infection was confirmed through testing. Because confirmed cases are widely considered to be an undercount of the true toll, some state and local governments have started identifying probable cases and deaths using criteria that were developed by states and the federal government.
Confirmed cases and deaths are counts of individuals whose coronavirus infections were confirmed by a laboratory test. Probable cases and deaths count individuals who did not have a confirmed test but were evaluated using criteria developed by national and local governments. Some governments are reporting only confirmed cases, while others are reporting both confirmed and probable numbers. And there is also another set of governments that are reporting the two types of numbers combined without providing a way to separate the confirmed from the probable. The Times is now using the total of confirmed and probable counts when they are available individually or combined. Otherwise only the confirmed count will be shown.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...es.html#states
***********
So, if you don't like the ECDC who have stated the guidelines or
the left-wing NYT for confirming that those data methodology guidelines are correct......just what data are do you follow? Twitter & FB????
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello moon,
"Bring our yer dead! Bring out yer dead!"
" Hey, this one's not dead yet!"
"Yes, he is"
"No, I ain't"
Bop!
"Well 'e is now!"
"Bring out yer dead!"
Hey, stretch- are they counting the undead ?
Haw, haw.............................haw..................except it's not funny.
"Bring our yer dead! Bring out yer dead!"
" Hey, this one's not dead yet!"
"Yes, he is"
"No, I ain't"
Bop!
"Well 'e is now!"
"Bring out yer dead!"
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
I don't know. How many? Should we take a poll in November? How many dead Americans will it take you to realize the US might have a little problem?
That's the whole problem. Our CDC does not differentiate between probable & confirmed. They such combine the two into one huge total which is wrong and misleading.
See the problem now over here?
There is a problem. No one is denying that. The question is, how big of problem is it really? Is it all due to Corona? Or not so much?
Popeye, is brain dead.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Aren't they using the standard procedures for any disease? Doctors and scientists like to remain apolitical....which is why I respect them so much. Sure, some do become political, but that often makes then such an outcast, all they do is politics, not science.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Like 9/11, you and I know there is going to be a shitpot full of "Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda" about this for years. Lots of name-calling and blame-slinging all the way to election day, but also for years after no matter what happens.
In the end the reality will set in: We, the People fucked up. We became complacent. We let politics cloud common sense. The most successful and most powerful nation in the world botched an event that much smaller First World nations are handling without authoritarian rule. Part of complacency is the state of denial. The idea "it can't happen to us"....which is exactly what happened on 9/11 too. We're idiots.
Tell it to the CDC.