Corona Virus Peak Watch Thread

Hello Dutch Uncle,

Dutch Uncle said:
Trump is being readied for air transport to Walter Reed.

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Yes, one of the nearly fifty thousand new cases yesterday has gotten a lot of attention:

""Out of an abundance of caution, and at the recommendation of his physician and medical experts, the President will be working from the presidential offices at Walter Reed for the next few days. President Trump appreciates the outpouring of support for both he and the First Lady," she added.

The president's diagnosis, which he tweeted just before 1 a.m. on Friday, sent shockwaves through Washington and across the country, causing markets to plummet just weeks before the presidential election.

The president received a single 8 gram dose of Regeneron's polyclonal antibody cocktail as a precautionary measure, according to a memo from White House physician Dr. Sean Conley. The antibody cocktail is being studied in four late-stage clinical trials and its safety and efficacy have not been fully evaluated by any regulatory authority, the company said on its page.

The president also has been taking zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and a daily aspirin, Conley said.

"As of this afternoon, the President remains fatigued but in good spirits," Conley said, according to the memo.

Conley said the first lady was experiencing only a "mild cough and headache." "

USA Today - President Trump heading to Walter Reed hospital hours after COVID-19 diagnosis
 
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Dutch Uncle said:
Notice in the video how everyone is wearing masks now.
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Finally. And that's the way it is all across the spectrum. All the doubters and deniers. As soon as it happens to them or someone close to them, they suddenly become believers.

I was wondering if there would be a transmission traced back to the RNC, but I think they lucked out because it was breezy that night.

Looks like the President's luck ran out.

He's a great con man but you can't BS a virus.
 
Darth Omar said:
Conclusion: Wearing masks (other than N95) will not be effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 transmission, whether worn as source control or as PPE.

N95s protect health care workers, but are not recommended for source control transmission.

https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/
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So you're calling Trump a fucking moron?

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Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
Conclusion: Wearing masks (other than N95) will not be effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 transmission, whether worn as source control or as PPE.

N95s protect health care workers, but are not recommended for source control transmission.

https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/
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" A study of 4 patients (July 2020, South Korea).
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342
Known patients infected with SARS-CoV-2 wore masks and coughed into a Petrie dish. “Both surgical and cotton masks seem to be ineffective in preventing the dissemination of SARS–CoV-2 from the coughs of patients with COVID-19 to the environment and external mask surface.”"

OK, if they are going to cherry-pick a study with such a small group of individuals, which supports everything they are saying, and they show 0 studies which say the opposite, obviously this is a biased source. And seriously? Coughing INTO a petri dish through a mask? To show that particles can get through a mask? Give us a break here. That is hardly indicative of whether general mask usage by the public is effective in reducing transmission.

Any face covering is going to reduce the spread of the disease. Just because some tests show some particles get through doesn't mean that the masks are not blocking a lot more from getting through. It's a numbers game. The more you block from getting through, the lower the odds of transmission. Less than 100% effectiveness is still better than 0. When lives are on the line we need to take whatever we can get. Masks are better than no mask.

Some of the other studies show that medical type masks are way more effective than cloth.

"Penetration of:

Cloth masks by particles — 97%

Medical masks — 44%,

3M Vflex 9105 N95 — 0.1%

3M 9320 N95 — <0.01%"

Their selection of studies and examples completely overlooks all the nations where there was extensive mask usage and those nations turned it around. The whole thing reads like they began with the supposition that mask-wearing is of no use, and set out to support it through careful cherry-picking.
 
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PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



" A study of 4 patients (July 2020, South Korea).
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342
Known patients infected with SARS-CoV-2 wore masks and coughed into a Petrie dish. “Both surgical and cotton masks seem to be ineffective in preventing the dissemination of SARS–CoV-2 from the coughs of patients with COVID-19 to the environment and external mask surface.”"

OK, if they are going to cherry-pick a study with such a small group of individuals, which supports everything they are saying, and they show 0 studies which say the opposite, obviously this is a biased source. And seriously? Coughing INTO a petri dish through a mask? To show that particles can get through a mask? Give us a break here. That is hardly indicative of whether general mask usage by the public is effective in reducing transmission.

Any face covering is going to reduce the spread of the disease. Just because some tests show some particles get through doesn't mean that the masks are not blocking a lot more from getting through. It's a numbers game. The more you block from getting through, the lower the odds of transmission. Less than 100% effectiveness is still better than 0. When lives are on the line we need to take whatever we can get. Masks are better than no mask.

Some of the other studies show that medical type masks are way more effective than cloth.

"Penetration of:

Cloth masks by particles — 97%

Medical masks — 44%,

3M Vflex 9105 N95 — 0.1%

3M 9320 N95 — <0.01%"

Their selection of studies and examples completely overlooks all the nations where there was extensive mask usage and those nations turned it around. The whole thing reads like they began with the supposition that mask-wearing is of no use, and set out to support it through careful cherry-picking.
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There is no conclusive evidence masks work.

Studies are all over the lot. The NEJM called them a ‘talisman’.
 
Darth Omar said:
Well, aren’t you one too then lol?
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It's always fun for me to see you run from your own posts by making personal attacks. Just more proof you don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you post.

The fact remains Trump caught COVID, is wearing a mask and now, out of an "overabundance of caution" was quickly airlifted to Walter Reed to receive experimental medical treatments and be on-hand for any emergency measures should problems appear.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,



Did you see that tweet from the middle of last night?

Trump said he loves everybody?

Wow. He must really be sick.

That is SO out of character.
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I'm actually looking forward to more of his Tweets over the next week....if there are any.
 
Friday,

10-2

USA

Total Cases 7,549,323

New Cases +51,403

Total Deaths 213,524

New Deaths +864

Total Recovered 4,776,824

Active Cases 2,558,975

Serious, Critical 14,166

Tot Cases/1M pop 22,773

Deaths/1M pop 644

Total Tests 109,570,446

Tests/1M pop 330,529
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's always fun for me to see you run from your own posts by making personal attacks. Just more proof you don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you post.

The fact remains Trump caught COVID, is wearing a mask and now, out of an "overabundance of caution" was quickly airlifted to Walter Reed to receive experimental medical treatments and be on-hand for any emergency measures should problems appear.
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Carp, if you don’t care for the implications of your own logic that’s your problem and not mine lol.
 
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