China Lied About Coronavirus, Putting World in Jeopardy, U.S. Intelligence Agents Say

Earl said:
Lol

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He has been criticized plenty...relentlessly in some corners.

That is why I thought you were kidding.
 
“If you think DeBlasio has escaped criticism...you are not thinking.”

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3 days ago - While Mayor de Blasio has been praised for his efforts during an unprecedented time, his critics have seized on an about-face of closures in the ...
 
Darth Omar said:
Ok Frank lol.

Due to China’s patently immoral mendacity, tens of thousands of Chinese nationals entered the country during the time China and WHO *were lying* about the virus not being able to go from human to human.

Which means, the COVID virus was already established in our population *before* anyone could act to do anything about it. Easily, as far back as November, given China’s immigration numbers—particularly in the West coast.

Trump, Hillary, Obama or fricking Super Man could not change that fact.

The really bad place is NYC but for some reason DeBlasio escapes criticism. Is it because he’s a Democrat? Why didn’t he lock *his city* down earlier Frank?
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Why didn't he force the Hasidic Jews to take it seriously was he scared of being called racist?
 
Frank Apisa said:
I do not "believe" (in) Jesus.

One does not have to "believe" (in) Jesus to invoke his name. Play a round of golf with me some time...and you will understand.

ASIDE: Back in 1995, Pope John Paul II celebrated Mass in Giants stadium, here in New Jersey. The Giants were in the midst of what would be a 5 - 11 season under Dan Reeves. The one thing in common for the crowd assembled for the Mass...and the crowd that met for Giants games...was the frequent shouts of, "Jeeesusss Chuurrrist!"
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I doubt you'd want me to play golf with you. I can literally launch a golf ball, but it most often isn't anywhere near the planned direction. The first time I tried it, I stepped into it like I was swinging a baseball bat. That doesn't work so well!

Yeah, I can believe that.
 
Havana Moon said:
Why didn't he force the Hasidic Jews to take it seriously was he scared of being called racist?
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I respect the risks and all but the ‘forcing people’ bit gives me the creeps.

Yesterday, this wag who I don’t even know, suggested I should be held responsible ‘for giving false hope to people’ simply for airing my skepticism on FB.

It’s getting out of hand.
 
RB 60 said:
And what would that have done? They'd just be spending it on pushing for gun control anyway. What makes you think she would have had the CDC more ready than we were?
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Say what?! So now it's okay that we're suffering needless deaths because the CDC's response team was disbanded but that's okay because they would have spent their non-pandemic-time trying to stop mass shootings? WTF. You ppl really have no self-awareness to speak of.
 
Darth Omar said:
I respect the risks and all but the ‘forcing people’ bit gives me the creeps.

Yesterday, this wag who I don’t even know, suggested I should be held responsible ‘for giving false hope to people’ simply for airing my skepticism on FB.

It’s getting out of hand.
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I agree with him/her. We should all be held responsible for our words and actions. Let's start at the top with #COVID-45.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Say what?! So now it's okay that we're suffering needless deaths because the CDC's response team was disbanded but that's okay because they would have spent their non-pandemic-time trying to stop mass shootings? WTF. You ppl really have no self-awareness to speak of.
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It wasn't disbanded you fucking cretin. Fuck me rigid it's a toss up who is more bone headed Joanie or Doris. I'm going with Joanie by a short head!!

Tim Morrison is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the National Security Council.

President Trump gets his share of criticism — some warranted, much not. But recently the president’s critics have chosen curious ground to question his response to the coronavirus outbreak since it began spreading from Wuhan, China, in December.

It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.

Now, I’m not naive. This is Washington. It’s an election year. Officials out of power want back into power after November. But the middle of a worldwide health emergency is not the time to be making tendentious accusations.

When I joined the National Security Council staff in 2018, I inherited a strong and skilled staff in the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate. This team of national experts together drafted the National Biodefense Strategy of 2018 and an accompanying national security presidential memorandum to implement it; an executive order to modernize influenza vaccines; and coordinated the United States’ response to the Ebola epidemic in Congo, which was ultimately defeated in 2020.

It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, congressional oversight committees and members of the Obama administration itself all agreed the NSC was too large and too operationally focused (a departure from its traditional role coordinating executive branch activity). As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017.

One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.

The reduction of force in the NSC has continued since I departed the White House. But it has left the biodefense staff unaffected — perhaps a recognition of the importance of that mission to the president, who, after all, in 2018 issued a presidential memorandum to finally create real accountability in the federal government’s expansive biodefense system.

The NSC is really the only place in government where there is a staff that ensures the commander in chief gets all the options he needs to make a decision, and then makes sure that decision is actually implemented. I worry that further reductions at the NSC could impair its capabilities, but the current staffing level is fully up to the job.

You might ask: Why does all this matter? Won’t it just be a historical footnote? It matters because when people play politics in the middle of a crisis, we are all less safe. We are less safe because public servants are distracted when they are dragged into politics. We’re less safe because the American people have been recklessly scared into doubting the competence of their government to help keep them safe, secure and healthy.

And we’re less safe because when we’re focused on political gamesmanship, we’re not paying enough attention to the real issues. For example, we should be united behind ensuring that, in a future congressional appropriations package, U.S. companies are encouraged to return to our shores from China the production of everything from medical face masks and personal protective equipment to vitamin C and penicillin.
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Poor Poon. lol

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ThatOwlWoman said:
Say what?! So now it's okay that we're suffering needless deaths because the CDC's response team was disbanded but that's okay because they would have spent their non-pandemic-time trying to stop mass shootings? WTF. You ppl really have no self-awareness to speak of.
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I have no idea of what has taken hold of them. They are not stupid people...nor evil people. They are, for the most part, decent, intelligent people...they are our neighbors and often our friends. But they are willing to give this blustering moron a pass on damn near everything.

Trump supporters have just got to break through the shell they have built around themselves.

TO TRUMP SUPPORTERS: Your Dear Leader is an ignorant, incompetent, blustering, classless boor. This is an opinion not born of liberal versus conservative. Revel in your conservatism...but for the sake of the Republic and for the sake of humanity...

...give up your senseless defense of this totally undeserving person.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Poor Poon. lol

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Joanie, you're not fooling anyone we know you very well by now. You just hate to not know what people are saying, you suffer from narcissistic personality disorder.
 
Darth Omar said:
Since you agree with the FB wag, what should ‘be done with’ me’?
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I agree that you (and I) should be held responsible for our words and actions. Example: I'm a licensed medical professional. If I start telling ppl that the virus is unlikely to kill you so don't pay attn to all those fake news media reports, shouldn't I be held responsible for anyone who believes that, doesn't take precautions, and gets sick... even though it was only on FB and I wasn't acting in a professional capacity?

As for you giving false hope, the stuff you spread around is your opinion. Just like the person who told you that you're giving false hope is stating his/hers. You just don't want to hear it. Tough shit. Having to hear their negative opinion of you is the price of your freedom of speech. The end.
 
Frank Apisa said:
I have no idea of what has taken hold of them. They are not stupid people...nor evil people. They are, for the most part, decent, intelligent people...they are our neighbors and often our friends. But they are willing to give this blustering moron a pass on damn near everything.

Trump supporters have just got to break through the shell they have built around themselves.

TO TRUMP SUPPORTERS: Your Dear Leader is an ignorant, incompetent, blustering, classless boor. This is an opinion not born of liberal versus conservative. Revel in your conservatism...but for the sake of the Republic and for the sake of humanity...

...give up your senseless defense of this totally undeserving person.
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It has been explained to you many times, the Dem candidates were all truly dire for the most part. So once you got through the charade of the primaries you ended up with a piss poor candidate like Biden. Why in the name of God would anybody want somebody senile like him? You, at least have all your marbles in play, Joe is truly out to lunch!!
 
Tim Morrison:

“It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, congressional oversight committees and members of the Obama administration itself all agreed the NSC was too large and too operationally focused (a departure from its traditional role coordinating executive branch activity). As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people. That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017.”

Indeed.

Never allow a crisis to go to waste.

The blame for the Chinese virus is with the Chinese who failed to contain it, lied about its origins and failed to accept the help from the US. health professionals will from the US.
 
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Frank Apisa said:
I have no idea of what has taken hold of them. They are not stupid people...nor evil people. They are, for the most part, decent, intelligent people...they are our neighbors and often our friends. But they are willing to give this blustering moron a pass on damn near everything.

Trump supporters have just got to break through the shell they have built around themselves.

TO TRUMP SUPPORTERS: Your Dear Leader is an ignorant, incompetent, blustering, classless boor. This is an opinion not born of liberal versus conservative. Revel in your conservatism...but for the sake of the Republic and for the sake of humanity...

...give up your senseless defense of this totally undeserving person.
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I give this attempt at inserting rationality into the cultists a 9!

It's all for naught. They'll take their worship of the corrupt and bumbling disaster of an IMPOTUS to their virus-laden graves.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I agree that you (and I) should be held responsible for our words and actions. Example: I'm a licensed medical professional. If I start telling ppl that the virus is unlikely to kill you so don't pay attn to all those fake news media reports, shouldn't I be held responsible for anyone who believes that, doesn't take precautions, and gets sick... even though it was only on FB and I wasn't acting in a professional capacity?

As for you giving false hope, the stuff you spread around is your opinion. Just like the person who told you that you're giving false hope is stating his/hers. You just don't want to hear it. Tough shit. Having to hear their negative opinion of you is the price of your freedom of speech. The end.
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He said ‘I should be held responsible’ and signed off FB before I told him to Fuck off.
 
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