Chauvin found guilty...let the debates continue!

leaningright said:
It is what it is. He’s guilty and I accept the verdict. But I will say this and stand by it ... If it weren’t for George Floyd’s own actions he would very likely be alive today.
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Well, let's take that a step further....if the shop keep hadn't falsely reported that the man was trying to pass a phony bill, none of this would have happened.
 
Primavera said:
I don't think so, he was a ticking health time bomb.
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So if he was in prime health, Chauvin's actions would have had no effect?

Yeah, the defense tried to base their case on that premise....they were logically and factually proven wrong in a court of law...whether you like it, accept it or not.
 
gemini104104 said:
Chauvin the murderous, stinking rat bastard and gutter quality ex cop at getting nabbed like a rat deserves to serve the full 30 year punishment guideline. This is when it comes to on video engaging in premediated murder in a brazen and schmuck way against a unarmed and defenseless citizen who pleaded that he could not breath, and regardless of how the POS Chauvin or his other gutter conspiring and un American co conspires reflect on others be it their looks or whatever. Actually I cannot stand the rancid, stupid, sleazy and contorted look of a treasonous bigot but that doesn't mean I would be willing to conspire to murder one of the rat bastards but instead let the Justice of nature takes its course upon their worthless hides.
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don't hold back....let us know how you REALLY feel! :D
 
Bigdog said:
No hate crime. No racism.

:dunno:

Democrat propaganda media caught lying again, trying to start a race war. :palm:
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Hey genius, was there a count of "race crime" or "hate crime" in the verdict? If not, then dig up your hero Limbaugh and blow it out his ass.
 
Taichiliberal said:
So if he was in prime health, Chauvin's actions would have had no effect?

Yeah, the defense tried to base their case on that premise....they were logically and factually proven wrong in a court of law...whether you like it, accept it or not.
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Yes I believe that's true. Chauvin was only 5' 7" and 140 lbs plus his knee was between his neck and shoulder. So spare me one of your infamous chronology of the posts diatribes, thanks all the same.
 
]2epo]v[an said:
Passing fake money? Firstly, thats ss jurisdiction. Secondly that sounds like total bullshit. Was this even true? I suppose it was since it was all just a law suit scam but.... pfft? Now while dude did have his knee where he had his knee, i dont see he was even pressing. Whatever the fk really went on here is something that fits none of the narratives about it.

My points are best. I know this because they are the only things people aren't talking about.

The queens honor guard has two ways to get paid. One of them is to act a fool in front of cameras to get kickbacks from news papers.

This was a round robin fraud. This whole city just flushed itself down a toilet.
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What in the hell are you going on about? Hell, even the foreign press got the deal regarding the alleged funny money https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ne-counterfeit-20-derek-chauvin-a9682781.html

you had a 19 yr. old clerk who "guessed" the bill was fake, which started the whole ruckus https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...ll-this-couldve-been-avoided/?sh=d441c4e67e55

If you're pissed by the money the city paid out to the Floyd family, TFB. Let me know when one of your friends or family dies of excessive force by the cops how much you'd want to be compensated.

The rest of your screed is pure supposition and conjecture laden drivel.
 
no worries said:
The store clerk who accepted a $20 bill from George Floyd shortly before Floyd died in a confrontation with police says he immediately suspected the bill was counterfeit — and he says he offered to pay for Floyd's cigarettes himself.

"I thought that George didn't really know that it was a fake bill," Christopher Martin testified Wednesday about taking the $20 bill. "So I thought I'd be doing him a favor."

Aside from that, I don't think holding a knee on Floyd's neck was even warranted, at all.

He was already handcuffed, they had 4 officers there, I had never witnessed such an over the top use of force, unless the person was psychotic, then the cops usually just shoot they guy.

Floyd wasn't psychotic.
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Thing was, the kid "thought" the bill was a fake.

It was never tested, and although money was on the front seat of a car, it wasn't retrieved by the cops.

Sad all around.
 
]2epo]v[an said:
Then what made him think doing dope was a particularly good idea then, sanity perhaps?

We're all psychotic. Me, slightly less than any of you since you haven't a hope in hell of recognizing it on your own and no one else will tell you. If i told you this much im only sure it would leave you even further from being able to accept it.

You're just two team based contrairions at this point.
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What makes pillars of the community, bankers, lawyers, doctors, priests, etc., get loaded during the holidays or on Friday night at the local bar or office party or community event? Is that a particularly good idea?

Bottom line: the video(s) and accompanying evidence put the kibosh on Chauvin. He has no one to blame but himself. Deal with it.
 
Primavera said:
That wasn't a fair trial and the jury had every right to be scared of being doxxed.


https://www.facebook.com/thom.graham.963/videos/162016622484963
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Are you fucking kidding me? Some right wing retard humping his 15 minutes on a podcast of opinions, supposition and conjecture and just plain racist tinged revisionism. This is your "proof"? This doofus is all over the place....yeah, the lib'ral commies and media bias got the courts rigged, blah, blah, blah.

yeah, Zimmerman's dad had serious pull with local cops and courts, and Georgie's dubious words stands, because dead men tell no tails (but the 911 transcript did). And the 4 bastards that killed Diallo? Or the clowns that killd Dorismond? I could go on, but it obvious you are in denial of reality. Fortunately, the jury in the Chauvin case weren't.
 
Taichiliberal said:
So if he was in prime health, Chauvin's actions would have had no effect?

Yeah, the defense tried to base their case on that premise....they were logically and factually proven wrong in a court of law...whether you like it, accept it or not.
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Just because they lost their case does not then prove the prosecution's case. In every very fact the officer's actions would have had no effect on someone holding their breath until they were dead. It was purely because floyd was on dope that he was able to pull it off. Where the defense failed is that they failed to present a case at all if simply this was their case.

Taichiliberal said:
So if he was in prime health, Chauvin's actions would have had no effect?

Yeah, the defense tried to base their case on that premise....
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Now the question begs. How is it reasonable to believe the defense presented a viable case when in fact they had not. Not as far as a jury would concern itself anyway. The legalese might support this as a defense but a jury can just say, fk you, that's some stupid sht.

If it's truly the fact of the matter that the two hadnt colluded to defraud the city through a dope related suicide then id say this case was handled as a railroading and the lawers assfked their client. If it is the fact of the matter that the two colluded to defraud the city with a dope related suicide and the legalese legitimizes this as a valid defense, then id also say this was a railroading.

Interesting.
 
Primavera said:
Yes I believe that's true. Chauvin was only 5' 7" and 140 lbs plus his knee was between his neck and shoulder. So spare me one of your infamous chronology of the posts diatribes, thanks all the same.
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What you "believe" is of no consequence, as the MEDICAL SCIENCE in testimony in conjunction with the video tapes tells a different story. And WTF do you get your "facts"? Still pulling them out of your posterior? FYI: Chauvin is 5'9", 159 lbs on his official record. The weight doesn't include gun belt, vest. So why don't you lie face down in the street and I'll have someone of similiar measurements kneel on your kneck for 8 minutes or so, and we'll see how that works out for ya!
 
I wonder if this is why they might have it this way. Just for the queens honorguard taking the newspaper paychecks instead.

Im kind of wondering where i learned this queens honorguard crap anyway.
 
]2epo]v[an said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
So if he was in prime health, Chauvin's actions would have had no effect?

Yeah, the defense tried to base their case on that premise....they were logically and factually proven wrong in a court of law...whether you like it, accept it or not.
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Just because they lost their case does not then prove the prosecution's case. In every very fact the officer's actions would have had no effect on someone holding their breath until they were dead. It was purely because floyd was on dope that he was able to pull it off. Where the defense failed is that they failed to present a case at all if simply this was their case.



Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
So if he was in prime health, Chauvin's actions would have had no effect?

Yeah, the defense tried to base their case on that premise....
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Now the question begs. How is it reasonable to believe the defense presented a viable case when in fact they had not. Not as far as a jury would concern itself anyway. The legalese might support this as a defense but a jury can just say, fk you, that's some stupid sht.

If it's truly the fact of the matter that the two hadnt colluded to defraud the city through a dope related suicide then id say this case was handled as a railroading and the lawers assfked their client. If it is the fact of the matter that the two colluded to defraud the city with a dope related suicide and the legalese legitimizes this as a valid defense, then id also say this was a railroading.

Interesting.
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1. Um, yeah toodles, in a court of law it pretty much does....no jury nullification or judge over-rulling here. What you are doing is just insipidly stubborn sour grapes....repeating a talking point that wholly ficitional when put against the actual chain of events in the trial. The defense COULD NOT prove their case medically or logically or rationally. In reality, they didn't have much to work with....testimony from seasoned police superiors, eye witnesses, video, testimony from doctors, foresnics....all pretty much sunk a defense claiming Floyd died because he was a druggie with a heart condition. TFB if you don't like it or believe it.

2. WTF are you babbling about? First you claim the defense didn't present a decent case, but you offer nothing in terms of what they exactly missed. Then you go off the deep end with some Q-Anon BS "theory" that has NOTHING based in reality that you can logically or factually prove.

I suspect you're not wrapped too tight, buddy. Get off the net and get help. I won't waste further time with nut cases seeking a platform to rant. Adios.
 
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