Can you point to one real lie Trump told, with the exact quote and link?

Part II


Controlling retail stores

“The Nazis were determined to eliminate the presence of large department stores (many of which were owned by Jews), and began to implement policies to curb their influence and expansion. Strict licensing requirements and temporary bans (all of which became permanent even after their expiry date) were passed which had an immediate effect on retail."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

Dictating to industry

Cars and other forms of motorized transport became increasingly attractive to the population, and the German motor industry boomed.[37] However, the government in Berlin banned many types of vehicles and allowed the production of only 19 different models of cars and trucks.[38] This decreased consumer choice and profits, and combined with rubber shortages to create what an American observer called, “drastic restrictions on the use of motor vehicles”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

From the same link:

The British Marxist historian Timothy Mason, who was a leading expert on the economic history of Nazi Germany, argued that after the 1936 economic crisis, a "primacy of politics" prevailed with business interests being subordinated to the Nazi regime. In a 1966 essay, Mason wrote "that both the domestic and foreign policy of the National Socialist government became, from 1936 onward, increasing independent of the influence of the economic ruling classes, and even in some essential aspects ran contrary to their collective interests" and that "it became possible for the National Socialist state to assume a fully independent role, for the "primacy of politics" to assert itself". Mason used the following to support his thesis:

that after the 1936 economic crisis, German industrialists were increasingly excluded from the decision-making process…

that after 1936, the German state came to play an increasing dominant role in the German economy both through state-owned companies and by placing increasing larger orders.

that the expansion of armament-related production supported by a highly economically interventionist state led to those capitalist enterprises not related to armaments to go into decline.


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Part III

the decline in effectiveness in economic lobbying groups in the Third Reich

that though every major German industrialist called for a reduction of working class living standards from 1933 onwards, before 1942 the Nazi regime always ignored such calls, and sought instead to raise working class living standards

Let’s not forget Germany's Universal Health Care, which the Nazis kept.

So the National Socialist Workers’ Party takes over Germany, controls industries either directly (Junkers) or indirectly (automotive), institutes wage controls, instituted price controls, maintained universal health care, punished successful retail outlets (Jewish owned), deficit spent on massive public works projects, put arbitrary limits on stock dividends, (again, controlling capital), then committed mass murder just as other socialist regimes (Stalin, Mao, Kim, Fidel) have, and we’re expected to believe they had nothing to do with socialism!

After WWII, Socialists in the West were very embarrassed by revelations about National Socialist Hitler’s atrocities. They scurried to distance themselves from him, by labelling him a “right winged fascist.” This was to protect the Left from his actions. This was okay as long as the Liberal media were in charge of information, but when the internet came along, the myth was exposed. Today many millions are setting the record straight online.

Young socialists are now doing the same thing to Mao, Stalin, Kim Jung-Un and other Socialists, saying that “real Socialism” has not been tried yet. They say Mao was not a socialist, and that he was right winged. They say the same about the USSR. "It wasn’t socialism," they insist.

This is exactly the same thing they did with the National Socialists from WWII, calling them ‘right wingers’ and the liberal media helped them promote that Fake News for the last 70 odd years. It worked because there was no internet.

That’s what the Left do. They change history. They’ve done well in this regard, but as I say, the internet is changing all that, as you can see here. As you scroll through the results, pick sites like this one to read, and avoid left winged flotsam.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Starting at 2:30 in that video, the second half of the discussion is all about the so-called Dancing Israelis who at the time were assumed to be Arabs. They weren't, they were Israelis.
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You cling tenaciously to that idea, so it must be wrong. Even if you’re right, which you haven’t proven – all we hear is a few words – you ignore all the other evidence. As I said, you are a hard boiled Lefty, and if there were none of other videos you’d deny that even one Muslim celebrated.
 
Rob Larrikin said:
A manager in Amazon authorizes a check. The owner, Jeff Bezos, playing golf two thousand miles away, has no idea about it. Technically, Bezos authorized the check because he gave the manager permission. In reality though, he has no idea. If asked by a reporter, "Did you know about that payment?" Bezos quite rightfully says no.
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Unfortunately Cohen was in NY and the Orange Asshole was on the phone with him when they discussed the hush money payment
 
Trump's latest discovered lie was claiming he had no knowledge of the Trump Tower meeting that Don Jr, Kushner, and Manafort had with all those Russians.

Cohen will testify to that and there's probably tapes proving it
 
Lesh said:
Unfortunately Cohen was in NY and the Orange Asshole was on the phone with him when they discussed the hush money payment
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Whatever lie you think Trump told, you'd have to supply evidence that he lied to back it up. I haven't seen any. If you have evidence, not opinion, provide it.
 
Lesh said:
Trump's latest discovered lie was claiming he had no knowledge of the Trump Tower meeting that Don Jr, Kushner, and Manafort had with all those Russians.

Cohen will testify to that and there's probably tapes proving it
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If you have proof he told a lie, where is it?
 
Rob Larrikin said:
Part I
Hitler’s National Socialist Worker’s Party ...
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The Industrielleneingabe was a petition signed by twenty senior representatives of German industry and finance on November 19, 1932, requesting President von Hindenburg to make Hitler Chancellor of Germany.

The signatories were:

Hjalmar Schacht, former president of the Reichsbank.
Friedrich Reinhart, spokesman of the Commerzbank, president of the Berlin Chamber of Industry and Commerce.
August Rosterg, CEO of Wintershall AG.
Kurt Freiherr von Schröder, merchant banker of Cologne.
Fritz Beindorff, owner of Pelikan AG, member of the supervisory board of Deutsche Bank.
Emil Helfferich, board member of the German-American Petroleum Company.
Franz Heinrich Witthoefft, Chairman of the Board of Commerzbank, president of the Hamburg Chamber of Commerce.
Ewald Hecker, president of the Hanover Chamber of Commerce and Industry.
Kurt Woermann, Hamburg shipowner and member of the National Socialist Workers' Party.
Carl Vincent Krogmann, co-owner of Hamburger Bank, member of the Hamburg Chamber of Commerce.
Kurt von Eichborn, owner of a private bank in Breslau.
Eberhard Graf von Kalckreuth, president of the Reichslandbund, member of the Deutscher Herrenklub.
Erich Lübbert, chairman of the AG für Verkehrswesen.
Erwin Merck, co-owner of a Hamburg commercial bank.
Joachim von Oppen, president of the Brandenburg Chamber of Agriculture.
Rudolf Ventzki, managing director of Maschinenfabrik Esslingen.
Fritz Thyssen, chairman of the board of Vereinigte Stahlwerke.
Robert Graf von Keyserlingk-Cammerau, board member of the German agricultural employers' association.
Kurt Gustav Ernst von Rohr-Manze, major landowner.
Engelbert Beckmann, president of the Westphalian Land Association.

Now why did all those bankers, capitalists and landowners, including at least six noblemen, want a SOCIALIST to run Germany?

Have another shot of whatever you're taking. I'm sure you can think of an answer. :)


Postscript
Two months after this, the Nazis came to power in coalition with von Papen's National Party which nobody in their right mind would call socialist. Two months later still, Hitler was granted dictatorial powers by the arch-conservative President Hindenburg.

You may wish to give a brief explanation of these events from a RWNJ perspective.
 
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Rob Larrikin said:
A manager in Amazon authorizes a check. The owner, Jeff Bezos, playing golf two thousand miles away, has no idea about it. Technically, Bezos authorized the check because he gave the manager permission. In reality though, he has no idea. If asked by a reporter, "Did you know about that payment?" Bezos quite rightfully says no.
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Trump discussed the payment with Cohen on the phone. Very different from your Bezos example.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
The Industrielleneingabe was a petition signed by twenty senior representatives of German industry and finance on November 19, 1932, requesting President von Hindenburg to make Hitler Chancellor of Germany.

The signatories were:

[snip list of bankers etc.]

Now why did all those bankers, capitalists and landowners, including at least six noblemen, want a SOCIALIST to run Germany?

Have another shot of whatever you're taking. I'm sure you can think of an answer. :)
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Hitler was outwardly an anti-communist. Many conservatives were no doubt impressed. See the details here.

Yet, as that article shows, Hitler was an avid socialist and learned a great deal from Marxism. Some excerpts [emphasis mine]:

It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too. The title of National Socialism was not hypocritical. The evidence before 1945 was more private than public, which is perhaps significant in itself.
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Many recent analysts have fastidiously refused to study the mind of Hitler; and they accept, as unquestioningly as many Nazis did in the 1930s, the slogan "Crusade against Marxism" as a summary of his views.
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[Hitler’s] differences with the communists, he explained, were less ideological than tactical. German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas "I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun", adding revealingly that "the whole of National Socialism" was based on Marx.
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Without race, [Hitler] went on, National Socialism "would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground". Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him.

Yet privately, and perhaps even publicly, he conceded that National Socialism was based on Marx. On reflection, it makes consistent sense. The basis of a dogma is not the dogma, much as the foundation of a building is not the building, and in numerous ways National Socialism was based on Marxism.
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Hitler's discovery was that socialism could be national as well as international. There could be a national socialism. That is how he reportedly talked to his fellow Nazi Otto Wagener in the early 1930s. The socialism of the future would lie in "the community of the volk", not in internationalism, he claimed, and his task was to "convert the German volk to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists", meaning the entrepreneurial and managerial classes left from the age of liberalism. They should be used, not destroyed. The state could control, after all, without owning, guided by a single party, the economy could be planned and directed without dispossessing the propertied classes.
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It is the issue of race, above all, that for half a century has prevented National Socialism from being seen as socialist. The proletariat may have no fatherland, as Lenin said. But there were still, in Marx's view, races that would have to be exterminated. That is a view he published in January-February 1849 in an article by Engels called "The Hungarian Struggle" in Marx's journal the Neue Rheinische Zeitung, and the point was recalled by socialists down to the rise of Hitler. It is now becoming possible to believe that Auschwitz was socialist-inspired. The Marxist theory of history required and demanded genocide for reasons implicit in its claim that feudalism was already giving place to capitalism, which must in its turn be superseded by socialism. Entire races would be left behind after a workers' revolution, feudal remnants in a socialist age; and since they could not advance two steps at a time, they would have to be killed. They were racial trash, as Engels called them, and fit only for the dung-heap of history.
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The claim that Hitler cannot really have been a socialist because he advocated and practised genocide suggests a monumental failure, then, in the historical memory. Only socialists in that age advocated or practised genocide, at least in Europe, and from the first years of his political career Hitler was proudly aware of the fact. Addressing his own party, the NSDAP, in Munich in August 1920, he pledged his faith in socialist-racialism: "If we are socialists, then we must definitely be anti-semites - and the opposite, in that case, is Materialism and Mammonism, which we seek to oppose." There was loud applause. Hitler went on: "How, as a socialist, can you not be an anti-semite?" The point was widely understood, and it is notable that no German socialist in the 1930s or earlier ever sought to deny Hitler's right to call himself a socialist on grounds of racial policy.

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In recent years there has been an upsurge of internet activity seeking to portray Hitler as a leftist, claiming that 'leftists' have falsified history:

"A favorite tactic employed by leftists is to describe the Nazis as 'right wing'. Rewriting history is pretty common for leftists ..." (The KKK was founded by Democrats, etc etc.)
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/myth-busted-actually-yes-hitler-was-a-socialist-liberal/

Most if not all of this propaganda comes from the far right, for obvious reasons. Unless they are actually neo-Nazis (in which case they are in no doubt that Hitler was not a leftist), they find it embarrassing for Hitler to be called right wing. But is there anything to this theory?

Capitalists and aristocrats owned most of the means of production in Nazi Germany. The Nazi Charter of Labor gave employers complete power over the workers' livelihoods, explicitly designating the employer as the leader of the enterprise: "The leader of the enterprise makes the decisions for the employees in all matters concerning the enterprise." The Nazis abolished labor unions, collective bargaining, and the right to strike. An organization called the Labor Front replaced the old unions, but it was an instrument of the Nazi party and did not represent workers. Productivity rose sharply but wages fell after 1933.

What of Hitler's supposed debt to Marxism? Allan Bullock, perhaps the greatest Hitler historian, summed it up:

"While Hitler's attitude towards liberalism was one of contempt, towards Marxism he showed an implacable hostility. Ignoring the profound differences between Communism and Social Democracy in practice and the bitter hostility between the rival working class parties, he saw in their common ideology the embodiment of all that he detested - mass democracy and a leveling egalitarianism as opposed to the authoritarian state and the rule of an elite; equality and friendship among peoples as opposed to racial inequality and the domination of the strong; class solidarity versus national unity; internationalism versus nationalism."
- Hitler: A Study in Tyranny, page 228.

"The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight."
- Mein Kampf, page 65.

So, was Hitler a liberal socialist?


Coming soon: was Stalin a libertarian capitalist?
 
kudzu said:
Trump claimed that Ted Cruz's father was involved in the JFK assassination.
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Bzzzt. Misquote. He did not use those words. He had read a newspaper report about Rafael Cruz being with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Kennedy being shot, and that’s what he described. You can see the tape here and listen for yourself.

 
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