Cain this all be true?

Having been told, by my own family, in so many words, that I wasn't good enough...and that based on my medium brown skin, while my lighter skinned brother was given "carte blanche"...driving lessons, money, and all amenities, including the freedom to go to Michigan for college, where his arrogant "lighter-skin" ass fucked up.
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Wowwww! We finally get to the bottom of your hostility and bigotry! Your FAMILY was racist!
 
Dixie said:
Wowwww! We finally get to the bottom of your hostility and bigotry! Your FAMILY was racist!
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Yeah...it happens a lot in many black families. You drove the message so strong that white makes you right...it made some of us crazy. The fault is yours. We didn't make ourselves this way....Herman Cain thinks he's white. What he is is crazy.
And don't cry for me Argentina. Some of my family are household names. I'm working at it.
 
poet said:
And pray tell, why wouldn't I have "race-colored glasses", having the deal with vermin like you for , lo, these 59 years? Arrogant? You are most damn straight, madam. Why wouldn't I be arrogant? Having been told, by my own family, in so many words, that I wasn't good enough...and that based on my medium brown skin, while my lighter skinned brother was given "carte blanche"...driving lessons, money, and all amenities, including the freedom to go to Michigan for college, where his arrogant "lighter-skin" ass fucked up.
I was relegated to attend college in Houston, where a keen eye could be kept on my wild ass. And after going through the paces, and seeing racism, "up close and personal", on the campus of Univ. of Houston, I dropped out and started working, and eventually landed a college-level position at the Texas Medical Center, where I worked my way up, from the bottom, as an entry level cardiopulmonary tech to certified, on my way to being registered, until racism reared its' ugly head, once more. So, you see, I carry a chip. Big as Texas, on my fucking shoulder....due to the fact that no matter how good one is or becomes, in certain circles, I am, and will never be anything other than just another n-word.
But, I'm special. I know that a whole race of people is not responsible for the actions of a few. So I don't blanket indict all of you...just the ones who feel it their responsibility to dole out just a little bit more of the racism whenever a black person espouses an idea, that was not their own...or when a black person proves to be more intelligent than they could conceive of, or who makes them feel like the pile of shit that they really are. You are one of those. And you have my pity. You had all the benefits afforded you by being born white....and still, look at you and the mess you made of your life. And you have the nerve to point fingers at me, you gutter snipe. Evil is what you are.
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And there you have it folks:

"Having been told, by my own family, in so many words, that I wasn't good enough...and that based on my medium brown skin, while my lighter skinned brother was given "carte blanche"...driving lessons, money, and all amenities, including the freedom to go to Michigan for college, where his arrogant "lighter-skin" ass fucked up."

"You had all the benefits afforded you by being born white....and still, look at you and the mess you made of your life."

The reason he's so pissed at "whitey" is because his own family treated him like a second rate person and all that hate, at his own brother, is now extended to anyone who doesn't see the world through his hate filled eyes.

He is to be pitied; because with all the times he spouts how intelligent he is, he still hasn't been able to learn much.

Just respond to all his rantings, with an "I'm sorry your life was so screwed up".

No wonder he's in therapy, weekly.
 
poet said:
Yeah...it happens a lot in many black families. You drove the message so strong that white makes you right...it made some of us crazy. The fault is yours. We didn't make ourselves this way....Herman Cain thinks he's white. What he is is crazy.
And don't cry for me Argentina. Some of my family are household names. I'm working at it.
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Now wait a damn minute, the fault is not mine because someone else was racist. Sorry you feel that way, but the fault should lie with those who were racist, right? You do realize a good many white people fought for abolition, and then for civil rights, do you not? So how can you cast blame at "you people" when many of those people fought for your freedom? I think I mentioned before, my mother marched from Selma to Montgomery in 1965. My family has always been respectful to all good and decent people, regardless of color or religion, or anything else. A very small percentage of white people are truly RACIST.

You have a resentful bitterness at your parents who were racist, and I feel sorry for you, because you can't see that, apparently. Your problem is not with people like me, but with people like your parents. Herman Cain understands things the same as my family always has, one of my favorite stories Cain tells is about the water cooler. When he was a child, they had segregated fountains in public, and his mother had warned he and his brother not to drink from the 'white' water fountain, and being curious boys, they just had to see what 'white' water was like... so they did... after drinking from the 'white' fountain, one said to the other in a rather astonished voice.... It tastes the same!

Dr. King's message, what he was trying to get across to people, was that skin color is irrelevant. We are all equal as people because we are made this way, and what mattered was character. How can you claim to be following the message of King, when everything you see, is viewed through the prism of who is white and who is black, and to what degree?
 
poet said:
Sorry, but we know that wouldn't be the definition of a "true racist", now wouldn't we?
I have strong opinions about race, "white privilege", white arrogance, folks taking every goddamn thing for granted...but I don't hate white people. There are some black folks I wouldn't be caught in public with, or be caught speaking to...am I then racist against them? No. I have standards. Very few here rise to them. Granted, I'm elitist, "uppity", and "mouthy". Still, I'm no racist...but folks are calling me that to poke holes in my position, to diminish the evidence of my superior intellect...which is the clincher, isn't it? What self-respecting white person , especially a conservative wants to be told by an arrogant black homosexual that he thinks himself better than they are, for various and sundry reasons? Can't you hear the gnashing of teeth, as I'm writing?
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I don't particularly care if they gnash their teeth.

I don't think it is evidence of racism or evidence of the opposite, it is just one of those stereotypical things that you hear people say, usually people defending against charges of racism based on something that they said that they realize can, at the very least, be taken that way.
 
poet said:
And pray tell, why wouldn't I have "race-colored glasses", having the deal with vermin like you for , lo, these 59 years? Arrogant? You are most damn straight, madam. Why wouldn't I be arrogant? Having been told, by my own family, in so many words, that I wasn't good enough...and that based on my medium brown skin, while my lighter skinned brother was given "carte blanche"...driving lessons, money, and all amenities, including the freedom to go to Michigan for college, where his arrogant "lighter-skin" ass fucked up.
I was relegated to attend college in Houston, where a keen eye could be kept on my wild ass. And after going through the paces, and seeing racism, "up close and personal", on the campus of Univ. of Houston, I dropped out and started working, and eventually landed a college-level position at the Texas Medical Center, where I worked my way up, from the bottom, as an entry level cardiopulmonary tech to certified, on my way to being registered, until racism reared its' ugly head, once more. So, you see, I carry a chip. Big as Texas, on my fucking shoulder....due to the fact that no matter how good one is or becomes, in certain circles, I am, and will never be anything other than just another n-word.
But, I'm special. I know that a whole race of people is not responsible for the actions of a few. So I don't blanket indict all of you...just the ones who feel it their responsibility to dole out just a little bit more of the racism whenever a black person espouses an idea, that was not their own...or when a black person proves to be more intelligent than they could conceive of, or who makes them feel like the pile of shit that they really are. You are one of those. And you have my pity. You had all the benefits afforded you by being born white....and still, look at you and the mess you made of your life. And you have the nerve to point fingers at me, you gutter snipe. Evil is what you are.
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Seek help... My life is at this moment content. I blame no one for choices I have made, or view points I have gained or lost. I am not a victim, because I choose not to be one- ever. I have learned that the only real control that I possess is how I choose to respond to life's circumstances. I have my say when I feel the need- I move on when I am ready. That is not determined by my sex or sexual orientation; my race; or my age- but by my my attitude and determination to to live the life of a survivor not that of a victim. You have the exact same privilege- you just choose to use your circumstances to be an angry miserable asshole, as if you are entitled to it just because of your race and sexual orientation- fine be a fucking victim- be pissed off all the time. But guess what? Myself and others get to call you on your pathetic shit if we want to.

Herman Cain is a man with his own ideas- YOU are the one condemning him, not me. You are the one who wanted everyone to know you were black gay and pissed off, as if you are entitled to it and everyone else needs to just shut the fuck up. That does not make you more intelligent or even intellectual- It makes you a pathetic caricature of a person, who has a need to identify his race and sexual orientation in order to have a voice... again get the fuck over yourself already...I have!
 
icedancer2theend said:
Seek help... My life is at this moment content. I blame no one for choices I have made, or view points I have gained or lost. I am not a victim, because I choose not to be one- ever. I have learned that the only real control that I possess is how I choose to respond to life's circumstances. I have my say when I feel the need- I move on when I am ready. That is not determined by my sex or sexual orientation; my race; or my age- but by my my attitude and determination to to live the life of a survivor not that of a victim. You have the exact same privilege- you just choose to use your circumstances to be an angry miserable asshole, as if you are entitled to it just because of your race and sexual orientation- fine be a fucking victim- be pissed off all the time. But guess what? Myself and others get to call you on your pathetic shit if we want to.

Herman Cain is a man with his own ideas- YOU are the one condemning him, not me. You are the one who wanted everyone to know you were black gay and pissed off, as if you are entitled to it and everyone else needs to just shut the fuck up. That does not make you more intelligent or even intellectual- It makes you a pathetic caricature of a person, who has a need to identify his race and sexual orientation in order to have a voice... again get the fuck over yourself already...I have!
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STFU. 3 X Loser.
 
Dixie said:
Now wait a damn minute, the fault is not mine because someone else was racist. Sorry you feel that way, but the fault should lie with those who were racist, right? You do realize a good many white people fought for abolition, and then for civil rights, do you not? So how can you cast blame at "you people" when many of those people fought for your freedom? I think I mentioned before, my mother marched from Selma to Montgomery in 1965. My family has always been respectful to all good and decent people, regardless of color or religion, or anything else. A very small percentage of white people are truly RACIST.

You have a resentful bitterness at your parents who were racist, and I feel sorry for you, because you can't see that, apparently. Your problem is not with people like me, but with people like your parents. Herman Cain understands things the same as my family always has, one of my favorite stories Cain tells is about the water cooler. When he was a child, they had segregated fountains in public, and his mother had warned he and his brother not to drink from the 'white' water fountain, and being curious boys, they just had to see what 'white' water was like... so they did... after drinking from the 'white' fountain, one said to the other in a rather astonished voice.... It tastes the same!

Dr. King's message, what he was trying to get across to people, was that skin color is irrelevant. We are all equal as people because we are made this way, and what mattered was character. How can you claim to be following the message of King, when everything you see, is viewed through the prism of who is white and who is black, and to what degree?
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It's not racist. It's being "race-conscious". And it wasn't my parents, but extended family. And I don't care to hear anything about Herman Cain, less, you defending him. He is indefensible. Was I raised in a world somehow different from Herman Cain, on another planet? I think not. And again, and again, you keep missing the point. I'm done here.
 
poet said:
Zeus? Thor? Napoleonic complex, much? LOL. Who are you coming back as next? Thoth?
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Nothing constructive to say, I see. Aren't you going to make some assumption about me based on the color of my skin, as you've done in the past, bigot?
 
Dixie said:
Now wait a damn minute, the fault is not mine because someone else was racist. Sorry you feel that way, but the fault should lie with those who were racist, right? You do realize a good many white people fought for abolition, and then for civil rights, do you not? So how can you cast blame at "you people" when many of those people fought for your freedom? I think I mentioned before, my mother marched from Selma to Montgomery in 1965. My family has always been respectful to all good and decent people, regardless of color or religion, or anything else. A very small percentage of white people are truly RACIST.

You have a resentful bitterness at your parents who were racist, and I feel sorry for you, because you can't see that, apparently. Your problem is not with people like me, but with people like your parents. Herman Cain understands things the same as my family always has, one of my favorite stories Cain tells is about the water cooler. When he was a child, they had segregated fountains in public, and his mother had warned he and his brother not to drink from the 'white' water fountain, and being curious boys, they just had to see what 'white' water was like... so they did... after drinking from the 'white' fountain, one said to the other in a rather astonished voice.... It tastes the same!

Dr. King's message, what he was trying to get across to people, was that skin color is irrelevant. We are all equal as people because we are made this way, and what mattered was character. How can you claim to be following the message of King, when everything you see, is viewed through the prism of who is white and who is black, and to what degree?
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Nevertheless you must admit that the US displays enormous amounts of racism and, from the little I know (TV only) your state of Al Obama stands head and shoulders above the others in the prejudice stakes.
The stereotypical American is not Martin Luther King, it is not President Obama, it most definitely IS a cowboy, hat 'n' boot wearing arrogant, white, John Wayne lookalike. You may not be of that ilk, your mother may well have been a good woman, you might even be a good man BUT we, non Americans, think of a country divided by colour in which the white man rules with the toe of his boot. How we see your country is not entirely up to us, most of the blame for how you are portrayed is up to you.
I think, were I to have picked the short straw and be born American, I would rather work towards an improvement in the way others see you, than further polarising your party politics and coding your innate racism (or rather colour prejudice). At some point some of you must raise your heads from the sand and open your eyes to what this arrogant stupidity is doing to your nation.
 
poet said:
Was I raised in a world somehow different from Herman Cain, on another planet? I think not.
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perhaps....maybe he was raised in an environment where his own family didn't tell him he was inferior because of the color of his skin........I'm pretty sure that was true of Condolesa Rice....does she also share the disdain you have for Cain?......
 
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