Birth Control Takes Life

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL?

  • Oppose Birth Control generally

    Votes: 2 9.5%

  • Favor Birth Control

    Votes: 18 85.7%

  • Unsure how I feel about Birth Control

    Votes: 1 4.8%

  • Would like to know more about Birth Control's Effects.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    21
Bijou said:
Get over yourself. What you get is based on what you give. So far, a bunch of nutso christ-y crap. Not worth a thoughtful response, sorry.
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I said I don't care what you heathens think or do, but am addressing what I say to Conservative Believers only. :)
 
Haiku said:
I can only think that this nonsense is aimed at catholics....
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Good try at trying to discredit these truths, with bogus charges of religious bigotry. I hate religious bigotry as did my Lord, Jesus the Christ. Catholics have there errors as all groups do. My advocacy is in behalf of those least able to defend themselves, the unconceived babies destroyed by unthinking Conservative Believer parents who have marriages, educations, jobs, and homes, and refuse to share it generously with their little ones. :)
 
FounderChurch said:
Thanks for bumping my thread! You are helping to make me a star. :)
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Kinda, huh? At least, that's how it seems, with your avatar and made-up name and persona - kind of 'star-like', in a way. Or, the closest thing to stardom you'll ever have, anyway. Who'm I to burst that fragile little bubble?? :)
 
FounderChurch said:
Yes, I have a point in regard to your meaningless point. The Bible says, "Woe must come into the world, BUT woe unto him that brings that woe. The Bible endorses just godly war, but nowhere does it endorse Believers taking the lives of their own children by any means, direct or indirect. :)
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So killing children in war is good?

War takes life. Methinks you've got some 'splainin to do.
 
Let's all take a cookie break! :)

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Bijou said:
Kinda, huh? At least, that's how it seems, with your avatar and made-up name and persona - kind of 'star-like', in a way. Or, the closest thing to stardom you'll ever have, anyway. Who'm I to burst that fragile little bubble?? :)
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Maybe he's got that magic belly button lint too?
 
FounderChurch said:


Birth Control Takes Life

The greatest threat to America, Israel, and Democracies generally, is a steeply declining birthrate, so severe that by the end of this century, none of us, or our descendants, will be here, and the world will be left in the hands of dictatorships taking us back to the Dark Ages.

People may be living here in America after we are gone, as they were living here before we came, but WE who created this great nation, which is God’s last best gift to humanity, are finished demographically, and will no longer be here.

Therefore, we will not be needing our Constitution, our Flag, or our Bill or Rights, or even our Bible, for we will not be here. It's all over for us, as it stands now.

Birth Control is also the greatest National Security threat we face. The 911 Terrorists were motivated by the conviction, based on current facts, that America was cursed and doomed by Allah, because of our decreasing numbers, and that they,(the terrorists) were just helping Allah finish us off.

Now, you don't hear much about this, because it is a very unpopular message that people do not take kindly to. Who likes bad news?

Probably, our not liking this truth is based on our knowing we are all guilty of wiping out most, if not all, of our children with various forms, devices, and methods of Birth Control, including the Catholic Rhythm Method, etc, which take the lives of babies just as efficiently as Protestant Condoms. There is no basic difference between Artificial and “Natural” Birth Control. They both produce dead babies.

It is to be hoped that everyone understands that this is something that should be a serious concern to any person who claims they are a Conservative and/or a Believer. This view is based on a lot of research into both the Bible and Secular sources, including the Law, Business and Science. The Bible throughout, extols life, and condemns Birth Control as a major method of killing off God’s People.

All Churches condemned birth control, and considered it murder, for more than 2000 years until 1930 when the Anglican Church at its Lambeth Conference OK'd birth control for the first time in more than 2000 years of Church history.

Thereafter, like greedy sheep, all other denominations including the reluctant Catholics have followed them in one way or another. Today, sadly, essentially NO religious body completely condemns Birth Control.

FRC Family Research Council and Heritage Foundation have produced a video documentary called “Demographic Winter” (check You Tube for a preview) that details a lot of what’s in this post, and Alan Carlson is effective on this as well, but mostly Conservatives and Christians are totally silent on this life and death issue. Out of guilt their own burning guilt and shame, presumably....

"I came to bring Life and Life More Abundantly!"

Under best circumstances it takes 2.2 children to just replace any population. Any group becomes statistically extinct in less than 100 years that reproduces at half of replacement. It's just simple arithmetic. By any measure this is America's last century. It's all over. People will be living here after we're gone but they won't be us, UNLESS WE CHANGE OUR WAYS DRASTICALLY. FounderChurch@Gmail.Com[/B]
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I watched the entire movie.

This nonsense about it being necessary to constantly have an expanding population is…..well, nonsense. Using that logic there would never be a time when enough was enough. However, as the movie progresses the real reason comes out and that’s the shrinking populations of certain countries.

They talk about the survival of nations like Latvia and Spain and Greece due to the decline in population. A Member of Parliament talks about the survival of Latvia (43:30 to 44:30) and that’s precisely the wrong-headedness behind it all. We need fewer nations. The goal is not to have a large population in order to have a lot of nations. The people have to get together, unite, not stay or become more separate.

Another bogus argument is the care of the elderly. Food production is sufficient with a minimum number of people. There is already a glut of homes, some 150,000 empty homes in Nevada alone! An entire community of new homes never even lived in, just left to rot. The elderly can be looked after properly and at very little expense. At least regarding food and shelter.

Drive through a typical suburb. How many people do you see out on their lawn? Does a retired couple or, in some cases, an individual require a 3 or 4 bedroom home with a large lot? In most cases a two bedroom apartment in a building with decent lawn/grounds is more than sufficient. There can be space inside for a workshop, hobby room, etc. How often is the average retired person doing something in their garage/workshop? And for those who are capable of doing things they can help with the upkeep of the building. Those who like to garden can look after the grounds. Those who like to fix things can do small repairs.

A complaint I frequently hear from older folks is there aren’t kids around today who cut lawns or are looking for part-time jobs like there used to be years ago. They’re right, there aren’t. On the other hand there’s no reason for one to keep a house they can’t look after and don’t need.

Finally, there are plenty of children being born in other parts of the world. The concern I hear expressed is they don’t have the same culture. Our way of life will disappear and we’ll go back to the dark ages. That sentiment is absurd. Someone from a culture/society where they have to scratch out a living is not going to come to America, be educated and experience the luxuries of life here, then return to a life of poverty. Well, maybe a few religious whackos might but certainly not the vast majority. Their current way of life, abject poverty, is not by choice. Once shown an alternative and having a chance to obtain it they will become “just like us”. Just like all the immigrants who came here before.

Fewer children is a good thing. Fewer people is a good thing. It was well past time to stop breeding like rabbits while watching children die every day from malnutrition and disease. It is disgusting and barbaric. Even animals know not to reproduce when there are shortages.

There is light at the end of the tunnel. As one commentator expressed human beings are the only “animal” that cuts back on reproduction when supplies increase. In other words the people who experience abundance, the wealthy, tend to have fewer children. (In the animal kingdom when food supplies increase animal populations increase.) Of course, we know why. People had children as an insurance against poverty/shortage. They had children in order for those children to look after them when their physical strength decreased, when their youthful ability to compete with others for resources diminished. It wasn’t out of love as we’ve been led to believe. It was out of selfishness. And it’s witnessed in parts of world today.

A clear example is the deal between the Emperor of France and the Pope in 1869. In exchange for the Pope declaring abortion a sin the Emperor decreed the Pope infallible. What was in it for the Emperor? More male children being born resulting in more youths becoming available to send to the slaughter of war. The more soldiers a ruler has the more powerful he is. And for the Pope? Well, there’s nothing more ego-raising and power enhancing than to be declared infallible. Truly a deal made in Hell.

So, with all this talk about the evils of the Illuminati and One World Government and secular immorality and the horrors of sex for pleasure and all the other tales of doom and destruction those “evildoers” still have a long way to go to beat those who believe in forcing women to bear children so nations can remain independent and psycho-religious whackos can sit on leather chairs plotting ways to have young people’s arms and legs and brains blown to bits by war.

We’ve seen the past. What could possibly motivate an individual to return to that hell?
 
FounderChurch said:
Good try at trying to discredit these truths, with bogus charges of religious bigotry. I hate religious bigotry as did my Lord, Jesus the Christ. Catholics have there errors as all groups do. My advocacy is in behalf of those least able to defend themselves, the unconceived babies destroyed by unthinking Conservative Believer parents who have marriages, educations, jobs, and homes, and refuse to share it generously with their little ones. :)
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unconceived babies ??? Is that like the living dead ? or a little pregnant ?

There is no such thing as "unconceived babies"......

How big a fool are you ? You make about the same sense as Apple.....flip sides of the same moron
 
FounderChurch said:
Yes, I have a point in regard to your meaningless point. The Bible says, "Woe must come into the world, BUT woe unto him that brings that woe. The Bible endorses just godly war, but nowhere does it endorse Believers taking the lives of their own children by any means, direct or indirect. :)
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Wanna bet, there are several instances where Yahweh commands people to kill their children and other people's children.

He also killed his own son as ransom for the souls of those who will accept him and his son, Jesus.
 
bravo said:
unconceived babies ??? Is that like the living dead ? or a little pregnant ?

There is no such thing as "unconceived babies"......

How big a fool are you ? You make about the same sense as Apple.....flip sides of the same moron
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Thanks for thinking of me. :)
 
bravo said:
unconceived babies ??? Is that like the living dead ? or a little pregnant ?

There is no such thing as "unconceived babies"......

How big a fool are you ? You make about the same sense as Apple.....flip sides of the same moron
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Spirit children, a Latter Day Saints belief?
 
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