Biden tells Trump "step up and do your job" over coronavirus

[floridafan]

Trump Declares Coronavirus A Public Health Emergency And Restricts Travel From China
January 31, 2020
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-health-emergency-and-restricts-travel-from-c

How about the 40,000 or so who still entered this country, or the failure to stop European flights after he was warned to do so?
I know how you like to cherry pick your "facts".

 

[LV426]

That is crap the first Documented case of COVID 19 in Texas was documented on February 13th. The first case of COVID-19 in New York during the pandemic was confirmed on March 1, 2020. The first confirmed case relating to the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States was announced by the state of Washington on January 21, 2020.BTW. So why didn't Washington state have more cases than New York did since they had COVID before New York.

So then it's even WORSE that Texas is seeing a surge in new cases 6 months after the first Texas case and four months after the NY Outbreak.

That's worse.

You get how that worse, right?

 

[LV426]

That is crap the first Documented case of COVID 19 in Texas was documented on February 13th. The first case of COVID-19 in New York during the pandemic was confirmed on March 1, 2020. The first confirmed case relating to the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States was announced by the state of Washington on January 21, 2020.BTW. So why didn't Washington state have more cases than New York did since they had COVID before New York. And since Texas had a DOCUMENTED COVID case before New York why did the New York doctors let all those New Yorkers die.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_York_(state)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Washington_(state)

You've reached the point of the debate where you now have to spam the board with nonsense because you realized your argument shit the bed.

If you're saying the first case of COVID in Texas was way back in February, then it's worse that it is spiking in Texas almost 6 months later.

So all this does is indict your own coddling of incompetence further because Texas had a six-month head start and still managed to surpass NY's total case count.

That is worse than anything that happened in NY...you get how that's worse, right? You understand why that's bad, yes? Does your brain work that way, or is it all a mess of crossed wires and bullshit?

 

[ExpressLane]

So then it's even WORSE that Texas is seeing a surge in new cases 6 months after the first Texas case and four months after the NY Outbreak.

That's worse.

You get how that worse, right?

No what is WORSE is New York has over 34K deaths and Texas has over 7K deaths and Texas has 10 million more Texans than New York has New Yorkers. If you had as many New Yorkers as Texans you would have 45,000 deaths at that rate.

 

[LV426]

No what is WORSE is New York has over 34K deaths and Texas has over 7K deaths

You keep saying this, but even you have to admit that doctors are better at treating an unknown disease they've had seven months to work on.

So harping about how NY had deaths four months ago has nothing to do with the fact that lazy Conservatives in Texas are causing cases and deaths to spike there today.

You get that, right?

Why did Texas drag its feet for 6 months? There could have been NO OUTBREAK IN TEXAS AT ALL.

But I guess you wanted there to be one so that you could then compare the deaths in Texas today to those from NY four months ago to wiggle out of a debate you've already lost.

 

[LV426]

No what is WORSE is New York has over 34K deaths and Texas has over 7K deaths and Texas has 10 million more Texans than New York has New Yorkers. If you had as many New Yorkers as Texans you would have 45,000 deaths at that rate.

Whoa there partner, because you're jumping to a wrong conclusion.

Since April, doctors have improved their ability to treat this disease. They have more information now than they did four months ago.

You know this, of course, but you don't care.

For you, it's all about diminishing the failure you actively chose by harkening back a few months to when doctors didn't know as much about how to treat COVID as they do today.

So you are arguing in bad faith, and you're a sophist. You refuse to hold yourself to account for the lies you tell, and you shirk personal responsibility by throwing up distractions from the sole, lone, sad fact that the guy whose basket you put all your eggs into turned out to be a gigantic failure, and that gigantic failure is a reflection of you and on you.

What a disappointment you are to your parents.

 

[LV426]

No what is WORSE is New York has over 34K deaths and Texas has over 7K deaths and Texas has 10 million more Texans than New York has New Yorkers. If you had as many New Yorkers as Texans you would have 45,000 deaths at that rate.

Texas watched as the virus swept the Northeast, and then flouted the recommendations out of the northeast that brought their case counts under control, and sat dumbly by as the virus spread out of control in Texas, surpassing NY's total case count, overloading hospitals, and destroying the already shitty economy.

 

[LV426]

No what is WORSE is New York has over 34K deaths and Texas has over 7K deaths and Texas has 10 million more Texans than New York has New Yorkers. If you had as many New Yorkers as Texans you would have 45,000 deaths at that rate.

Dullards always try to retreat to broad, base numbers when they lose track of their argument.

Before, you lied and said NY was testing 50K a day and TX was testing 80K a day.

What you neglected to say was that TX tested 80K THAT DAY and NY tested 50K THAT DAY.

You thought you could sneak that bit of bullshit on through because you figured I wouldn't check because I'm just as lazy as you.

But if you know anything about me, it's that I never trust Conservatives when they provide numbers of any kind.

That's how I was able to prove you are lying about the number of tests per day. You made it so, so easy to do that.

So after that massive THREADFAIL, you have decided to hone in, narrowly, on the death rate...which I guess is the new metric you are using to judge COVID since you can't compare it to the flu anymore, like you used to do. Remember? Remember how you were comparing it to the flu 4 months ago? I remember how wrong you were then.

So now you screech about NY's total deaths and are holding up TX's record case count and deaths as a model of...success?

Hard to see how it's successful that TX surpassed NY's case count with a four month head start.

 

[ExpressLane]

You keep saying this, but even you have to admit that doctors are better at treating an unknown disease they've had seven months to work on.

And the New York doctors had the experience of Texas and Washington doctors. Yet they couldn't make up for the incompetence of DeBlasio and the Health Commissioner that advised people to attend the Chinese Lunar New Year parade. And ORDERED that COVID patients be admitted to nursing homes. And squandered the resources provided by Trump by under utilizing the convention center hospital and the navy hospital ship.

So harping about how NY had deaths four months ago has nothing to do with the fact that lazy Conservatives in Texas are causing cases and deaths to spike there today.

We are spiking because we are opening up businesses and we had a large series of BLM protests in virtually every large city. And many more Texans live in a large city than New Yorker do.

New York has the number 1 most populated city NYC and the 86th most populated city Buffalo.

Texas has the 4th, 7th,9th, 11th, 13th, 22nd, 43rd, 59th, 70th, 79th , 83rd, 94th and 95th

Of the top 100 populated cities in the US. The bottom line is many more Texans live in large cities than New Yorkers do.
New York basically only has one large city. And we have 30% more people.

You get that, right?

Why did Texas drag its feet for 6 months? There could have been NO OUTBREAK IN TEXAS AT ALL.

But I guess you wanted there to be one so that you could then compare the deaths in Texas today to those from NY four months ago to wiggle out of a debate you've already lost.

Someone has to open up first and New York will get the benefit of our trial and error.

 

[LV426]

And the New York doctors had the experience of Texas and Washington doctors.

WHAT?

What are you talking about?

 

[ExpressLane]

Dullards always try to retreat to broad, base numbers when they lose track of their argument.

Before, you lied and said NY was testing 50K a day and TX was testing 80K a day.

What you neglected to say was that TX tested 80K THAT DAY and NY tested 50K THAT DAY.

You thought you could sneak that bit of bullshit on through because you figured I wouldn't check because I'm just as lazy as you.

But if you know anything about me, it's that I never trust Conservatives when they provide numbers of any kind.

That's how I was able to prove you are lying about the number of tests per day. You made it so, so easy to do that.

So after that massive THREADFAIL, you have decided to hone in, narrowly, on the death rate...which I guess is the new metric you are using to judge COVID since you can't compare it to the flu anymore, like you used to do. Remember? Remember how you were comparing it to the flu 4 months ago? I remember how wrong you were then.

So now you screech about NY's total deaths and are holding up TX's record case count and deaths as a model of...success?

Hard to see how it's successful that TX surpassed NY's case count with a four month head start.

Was I not correct We tested 80k and New York tested 50k. You are the one that interpreted it to mean everyday. I did not say that. That was a construct of your frail mind. If I meant it to mean EVERY day I would have said DAILY.

 

[LV426]

Yet they couldn't make up for the incompetence of DeBlasio and the Health Commissioner that advised people to attend the Chinese Lunar New Year parade. And ORDERED that COVID patients be admitted to nursing homes. And squandered the resources provided by Trump by under utilizing the convention center hospital and the navy hospital ship.

It's weird that after all that Texas STILL didn't take this seriously, opened too soon, and now has more cases than every state except Florida and California.

So if NY made all these terrible errors, why is Texas making even worse ones???

Texas has more COVID confirmed cases than every state except CA and FL.

Texas has more confirmed COVID cases than almost all other first-world countries combined.

40% of all COVID cases in Texas are in nursing homes.

That's failure on a scale larger than what happened in NY.

BTW - NY has a 1% positive rate while TX has a 13% rate.

Because Texas succeeded? A 13% positive rate (THAT IS TRENDING UP) is success? Since when?

 

[LV426]

We are spiking because we are opening up businesses and we had a large series of BLM protests in virtually every large city. And many more Texans live in a large city than New Yorker do.

Two things:

1. So you are admitting that reopening caused a surge in cases. We told you it was a mistake back then. You insisted it wasn't. So I guess you get to eat a plate of shit for that.

2. NY, DC, MA, WA, CT, RI, NJ, VT, and MI also had BLM protests yet they didn't see surges in cases. Why?????????? You said the protests caused the outbreaks, yet there weren't outbreaks in the blue states that had protests. So why are you bullshitting me?

I made the point in #2 before and you ignored it, choosing instead to continue lying about the protests.

Why are you doing that? Why are you making the choice to lie?

 

[LV426]

New York has the number 1 most populated city NYC and the 86th most populated city Buffalo.
Texas has the 4th, 7th,9th, 11th, 13th, 22nd, 43rd, 59th, 70th, 79th , 83rd, 94th and 95th
Of the top 100 populated cities in the US. The bottom line is many more Texans live in large cities than New Yorkers do.
New York basically only has one large city. And we have 30% more people.

So then laziness and incompetence is how COVID surged in Texas four months after the NY outbreak.

Glad we cleared that up.

NY has nothing to do with TX's irresponsibility which has caused its case count to surpass NY's.

You are clinging to the death rate, but even you admit that doctors are better at treating it now than they were 4 months ago because they've had more time to study it.

So once you stop talking about this exaggerated and embellilshed "death rate" metric, you have nothing else with which to defend yourself.

That's why you started talking about population size and cities...you need to find some way to spin the TX disaster as a positive because of all the effort you put in here the last 7 months spreading misinformation and downplaying the virus. YOU MADE THOSE CHOICES. Now that you have to eat shit for them, suddenly you care about COVID and are outraged at the fact that four months ago, NY had an Outbreak which somehow makes it OK for you to fail miserably and lie about what's happening in Texas today?

What does NY from four months ago have to do with Texas in August? Nothing.

Nothing NY did four months ago had anything to do with what is happening in Texas today, which is thanks to people like you who spent the last 7 months spreading bullshit about COVID.

Now that it's hitting red states much worse and in greater numbers than blue states before, suddenly all comparisons to the flu have gone out the window, all case count comparisons have gone out the window, all testing comparisons have gone out the window...so all you're left with is something that happened four months ago, from which you took no lessons at all.

You're just a hack.

 

[LV426]

Was I not correct We tested 80k and New York tested 50k.

You said they were testing that a day, not just on that one day, and you said it right here you lying sack of shit:

Increased testing.Texas is doing over 80K tests a day and New York is a little over 50k.

So are you going to claim you didn't write that? That you were hacked? Or are you going to go with the old standby "context"?

You lied and said they were testing that many "a day" but it's not "a day" it's "that day".

A glance at the chart shows NY tests way more than TX.

 

[LV426]

Was I not correct We tested 80k and New York tested 50k. You are the one that interpreted it to mean everyday. I did not say that.

Here is what you literally said:

Increased testing.Texas is doing over 80K tests a day and New York is a little over 50k.

"A day".

Not "that day".

Not "yesterday".

"A day".

So you were wrong. You can admit you're wrong, you know. We can always move on.

But the fact that you are just digging in here makes me think this is about more than just COVID.

It's personal for you.

 

[LV426]

Was I not correct We tested 80k and New York tested 50k. You are the one that interpreted it to mean everyday. I did not say that. That was a construct of your frail mind. If I meant it to mean EVERY day I would have said DAILY.

All you do is lie, lie, lie...

Increased testing.Texas is doing over 80K tests a day and New York is a little over 50k.

The problem all that lying causes is that it casts doubt on everything else you say here, so no one can be sure you're giving anyone the truth.

The lying is also a reflection of your character, which appears to be rotten to the core.

Now, maybe you're just a thoughtless, careless, sloppy person with no work ethic and a barely-literate understanding of the English language...or maybe you're someone who plays that part of your personality up for effect on anonymous message boards. But regardless the answer, you still suck.

 

[ExpressLane]

Few things:

1. So you are admitting that reopening caused a surge in cases.

2. NY, DC, MA, and MI also had BLM protests yet they didn't see surges in cases. Why?

I made the point in #2 before and you ignored it, choosing instead to continue lying about the protests.

Why are you doing that? Why are you making the choice to lie?

They had protests but the population there has more immune people because so many were exposed early on.. Remember how hard COVID hit the black community on the East coast? Mass has had almost as many deaths as Texas and they only have 6.9 million people. Texas has over 29 million people. Michigan has a Population 9.987 million and more deaaths than Texas with 19 million fewer people than Texas. So those small states had FEWER people to protest. Texas has many large cities and several of them had protests. You can't compare those small states and towns to Texas. We had bigger crowds in Houston Dallas and Fort Worth and Austin and San Antonio. And those are the cities that have surged and are now declining.

You lied about the population of Tarrant County

You lied about New York having COVID 4 MONTHS before Texas when Texas had a documented case BEFORE New York's first documented case. Add that to the fact that those states remain shut down while Texas has remained open.

Your lies cast doubt on everything you have said. You suck Jerry Nadler's dick.

 

[Sailor]

They had protests but the population there has more immune people because so many were exposed early on.. Remember how hard COVID hit the black community on the East coast? Mass has had almost as many deaths as Texas and they only have 6.9 million people. Texas has over 29 million people. Michigan has a Population 9.987 million and more deaaths than Texas with 19 million fewer people than Texas. So those small states had FEWER people to protest. Texas has many large cities and several of them had protests. You can't compare those small states and towns to Texas. We had bigger crowds in Houston Dallas and Fort Worth and Austin and San Antonio. And those are the cities that have surged and are now declining.

You lied about the population of Tarrant County

You lied about New York having COVID 4 MONTHS before Texas when Texas had a documented case BEFORE New York's first documented case. Add that to the fact that those states remain shut down while Texas has remained open.

Correct. Not to mention the fact that BLM protests in liberal Massachusetts were/are generally non existent. LV is dumb as fuck and grasping at straws. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Massachusetts

 

[ExpressLane]

Correct. Not to mention the fact that BLM protests in liberal Massachusetts were/are generally non existent. LV is dumb as fuck and grasping at straws. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Massachusetts

Yep Houston is the hot spot for COVID right now. This is just one example of the many protests across Texas.

Houston

Houston City Hall illuminated in crimson and gold in honor of George Floyd's alma mater Yates High School on June 8
May 29: Large numbers protested in George Floyd's hometown. Mayor Sylvester Turner made calls for unity and peace.[42] Over 200 people were arrested[when?], most with obstructing a roadway.[43] According to police reports four officers suffered minor injuries[when?] and eight police vehicles were damaged.[43] Houston police explained that they were investigating a video that appeared to show a female protester being trampled by a police officer on a horse.[44][45]

On Tuesday, June 2, thousands of people gathered for a march and rally in downtown Houston.[46] Family members of George Floyd joined the march, which one source estimated at 60,000 people.[47]

June 8: Thousands of mourners gathered for a viewing of George Floyd's body at The Fountain of Praise Church. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott and Mayor Sylvester Turner and George's younger brother Rodney were among the 10,000 expected to attend the visitation.[48]