And so it begins: open Civil War has broken out in the GOP

Port Tack said:
A capitalistic country with a few social programs is not a socialist country, it's a smart country. We have had social security for nearly a century, does that makes us a socialist country?
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Agreed. The best systems seem to be a Constitutional Republic fueled by regulated capitalism and with a socialist safety net to help the poor, infirm and minors.
 
Port Tack said:
A capitalistic country with a few social programs is not a socialist country, it's a smart country. We have had social security for nearly a century, does that makes us a socialist country?
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It did when it was enacted. Now they love it. Repukes live by and for negative labels. Dump labels and do what works.

I sort of liked Dutch Uncle's weird Clemson grad's idea for social sec reform. I won't say the word "privatize" because that is the labeling thing.
I will, however, call Republicans degenerate scum because that's what they are.
 
Port Tack said:
As long as you don't vote for the republican.;)
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Mitt was my last vote for Republican President. I've voted Libertarian ever since.

If the Democrats or the Republicans want my vote, they need to stop running liars, pedos, adulterers and criminals for office.
 
Phantasmal said:
That’s too bad. I would vote for a good Republican. I would vote for a good Independent, Green, or Libertarian. I vote for people who support my values. I put country over party.
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I agree however I think lately there has not been any republicans that "support my values".

I have never been a registered republican or democrat and been voting since the days of Nixon. The first democrat I ever voted for for president was John Kerry.
 
Port Tack said:
I agree however I think lately there has not been any republicans that "support my values".

I have never been a registered republican or democrat and been voting since the days of Nixon. The first democrat I ever voted for for president was John Kerry.
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I voted for a Republican judge here in Houston and Murkowski in Alaska to save the state from the Palin cline, Miller. There are not too many Republicans in Texas that would earn my vote.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
No doubt you have it all figured out. If so, then please tell me why the Soviets, Red China, Britain, Germany, France and Japan all continue to support the conspiracy.
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The Soviets, China, Britain, Germany, France, and Japan all know the US is nothing but a propaganda machine. They also know the 737 Max is a deathtrap but kept their mouth shut in public. It's all politics.

Engineers knew the Challenger was going to explode but had to keep their mouth shut if they wanted their job. You of all people should know how the game is played.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Mitt was my last vote for Republican President. I've voted Libertarian ever since.

If the Democrats or the Republicans want my vote, they need to stop running liars, pedos, adulterers and criminals for office.
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Admirable resolve. Adulterers? Meh. That's not illegal and not job function. Not admirable but you've just excluded many good candidates and allowed
for plenty of hypocrites and liars. Bedroom policeman!
 
goat said:
The Soviets, China, Britain, Germany, France, and Japan all know the US is nothing but a propaganda machine. They also know the 737 Max is a deathtrap but kept their mouth shut in public. It's all politics.

Engineers knew the Challenger was going to explode but had to keep their mouth shut if they wanted their job. You of all people should know how the game is played.
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Oh brother. Another Stone clone. He knows things. Conspiratorial things. So when will you start speaking in vague threatening riddles? yuck
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. The best systems seem to be a Constitutional Republic fueled by regulated capitalism and with a socialist safety net to help the poor, infirm and minors.
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Absolutely! Every time a capitalistic country starts having the wealth inequality that the USA is having the end is in sight. Usually because so many are being screwed the idea of socialism becomes better and better. The republican and their love for a pure capitalistic society will bring socialism much quicker than a country that does not forget about it's poor.
 
goat said:
The Soviets, China, Britain, Germany, France, and Japan all know the US is nothing but a propaganda machine. They also know the 737 Max is a deathtrap but kept their mouth shut in public. It's all politics.

Engineers knew the Challenger was going to explode but had to keep their mouth shut if they wanted their job. You of all people should know how the game is played.
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So explain why those countries support the moon landing being true.
 
Micawber said:
Admirable resolve. Adulterers? Meh. That's not illegal and not job function. Not admirable but you've just excluded many good candidates and allowed
for plenty of hypocrites and liars. Bedroom policeman!
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So now you're telling me what my criteria should be for voting? LOL Typical Democrats. "Vote this way or we'll attack you!" :laugh:
 
Port Tack said:
A capitalistic country with a few social programs is not a socialist country, it's a smart country. We have had social security for nearly a century, does that makes us a socialist country?
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Our entire system is kept buoyant with debt. Is that what you call capitalism?
 
Micawber said:
Alaska ands Houston? Are you oil money?
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Alaska, we moved there for work, the pipeline was booming. My hubby helped construct a lot of downtown Anchorage, later worked for various companies on the North Slope, corrosion.

We moved to Houston to be close to family, a daughter, a son and two grandsons.
 
Micawber said:
It did when it was enacted. Now they love it. Repukes live by and for negative labels. Dump labels and do what works.

I sort of liked Dutch Uncle's weird Clemson grad's idea for social sec reform. I won't say the word "privatize" because that is the labeling thing.
I will, however, call Republicans degenerate scum because that's what they are.
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I think those who have become rich beyond their wildest dreams ought to be told when they retire congratulations, you don't get social security, wasn't designed for people like you.

If you made $7000 per hour 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year, since the time of Christ, you would not have as much money as Jeff Bezos. If his tax rate were 90% he still could have a dozen mansions with yachts tied up outside each one. This country gave him the people and opportunity to make such a fortune and that country is in debt over 25 trillion dollars. Something is wrong with that picture. I'm not against the rich they should be congratulated and be able to live a life of luxury but there comes a point when they should be paying a higher tax rate than their secretary making hundreds of thousands of times less of a salary.

Sorry but Obama was 100% correct when he said to people like Jeff, "you didn't build that all by yourself". Without what the USA provided for people like Jeff they never would be where they are today.
 
Phantasmal said:
I voted for a Republican judge here in Houston and Murkowski in Alaska to save the state from the Palin cline, Miller. There are not too many Republicans in Texas that would earn my vote.
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I voted for my current governor Larry Hogan and he is a republican.
 
Micawber said:
Oh brother. Another Stone clone. He knows things. Conspiratorial things. So when will you start speaking in vague threatening riddles? yuck
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We don't have the technology to go to the moon in 2021. They're still working on a rocket big enough to get us there.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You're not a Klan member, Son?

Let's check; you're pro-Trump and believe the election was stolen, but you didn't support overthrowing the results.

You're anti-black, hate BLM yet claim to not be member of the KKK. Are you a member of some other White Supremacist group, Son? Not that I expect you'd leave your basement to help them. You're an idea man, right? You never get your hands dirty? LOL
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keep assuming you fucking retard
 
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