Cain: A black man who knows his place

Damocles said:
Okay... So, saying that somebody is black and conservative therefore republicans are racist shows that idiot leftists have no legitimate grievances?

I agree.
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Oh sweet. One person implies Cain is an Uncle Tom and now all liberals are racist? So since Tinhat and Webway refer to blacks as Nigers does that make all conservatives racist too?

The point is none of you are having an intellectually honest discussion. You're just trying to marginalize each other cause you don't agree. It's easier to do then being honest.
 
cawacko said:
I don't care about the personal stuff going on but someone (I do not remember/know who) made a negative comment about Jenna and Barbara (Cawacko's future ex's), Bush's kids. Now why they were brought into the equation I do not remember but someone needs to man (woman) up and apologize for speaking about two young fine beautiful women (and potentially my future ex's) in a negative tone. And I KNOW someone didn't put them down for drinking because Lord knows they can't outdrink Cawacko.
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I missed that post but one great big "Hell yea" cuz. Leave da twins outta this!!
 
poet said:
WTF? Republicans' party line, for the most part is racist and discriminatory. You're mixing apples and oranges. It's not "therefore"....it's "in addition to".
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I think the fact that liberals believe this to be true is insurmountable evidence that liberals have no brains......
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Oh sweet. One person implies Cain is an Uncle Tom and now all liberals are racist? So since Tinhat and Webway refer to blacks as Nigers does that make all conservatives racist too?

The point is none of you are having an intellectually honest discussion. You're just trying to marginalize each other cause you don't agree. It's easier to do then being honest.
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is this a concession that those who called him an Uncle Tom are themselves racists?.......the person you claim we are marginalizing has done so.......
 
Damocles said:
So you could possibly make a post on the thread that was actually salient to the topic rather than some random nonsense that almost sorta was...
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I posted my opinion.
That you think my opinion is not salient to the topic is not my problem.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I think the fact that liberals believe this to be true is insurmountable evidence that liberals have no brains......
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And the excuse your side offers up for why blacks and persons of color, overwhelmingly support the Democratic Party, is that they've been brainwashed or promised "milk" from the government teat. When it's obvious that the Republican Party "is" the "white party", which caters to whites, and whites only. Liberals, apparently, are the only ones with "brains".
 
poet said:
They have whole communities of practicing Christian homosexuals. Duh. Some are church clergy. Some are church hierarchy. If anything, Christ preached tolerance and inclusion...not your message of exclusion and intolerance. Go back and really read the Bible and get some discernment.
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Any queer can claim to be a Christian. Hell, look at you. Jesus warned us of sheep in wolve's clothing. You're a perfect example.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Oh sweet. One person implies Cain is an Uncle Tom and now all liberals are racist? So since Tinhat and Webway refer to blacks as Nigers does that make all conservatives racist too?

The point is none of you are having an intellectually honest discussion. You're just trying to marginalize each other cause you don't agree. It's easier to do then being honest.
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One person implies the Tea Party is racist and all of a sudden it is. What's the matter? You all can dish it out, but you can't take it.
 
Alias said:
One person implies the Tea Party is racist and all of a sudden it is. What's the matter? You all can dish it out, but you can't take it.
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Sorry retard, try hundreds of thousands of people say it is racist, therefore it is.
Nice fail, again.
 
poet said:
And the excuse your side offers up for why blacks and persons of color, overwhelmingly support the Democratic Party, is that they've been brainwashed or promised "milk" from the government teat. When it's obvious that the Republican Party "is" the "white party", which caters to whites, and whites only. Liberals, apparently, are the only ones with "brains".
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You're a perfect example of racist democrat politics. You keep talking. You're making our case far better than anyone else can.
 
Return of Dune said:
Sorry retard, try hundreds of thousands of people say it is racist, therefore it is.
Nice fail, again.
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LOL. Oh my God. Hilarious.

Obama is dropping in the polls. Herman Cain is rising. Suck on that.

I'd love to hear your explanation why Herman Cain is so popular with conservatives if they are racist. Go for it.
 
Alias said:
LOL. Oh my God. Hilarious.

Obama is dropping in the polls. Herman Cain is rising. Suck on that.

I'd love to hear your explanation why Herman Cain is so popular with conservatives if they are racist. Go for it.
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So, you are trying to say that the TP represents the entire GOP?

Just because Cain is the frontrunner this week, doesn't mean he has a prayer in hell of winning moron.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
is this a concession that those who called him an Uncle Tom are themselves racists?.......the person you claim we are marginalizing has done so.......
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What? Everyone knows, I'm the one who called Herman Cain an Uncle Tom, and I explained why, ad nauseam. First of all, it's hardly racist of me, a black man, to point out the racism (i.e. preference of one race over another....in Herman Cain's case, "white over black") in another black man. Telling the truth about an individual could hardly be seen as "racist". The view that all or most blacks are stupid, criminal, lazy or parasitic is racist because it's not true....what is true can never be viewed as "racist".

First of all, HC was accused of playing the race card, when he charged up Rick Perry on his racially-charged named hunting grounds, which he justifiable did (i.e. http://blog.pappastax.com/index.php/2011/10/03/herman-cain-plays-the-race-card/)
But then, baffled and embarrassed by the Republican backlash, who employed Reagan's "11th commandment" ("Thou shalt never speak ill of another Republican....even though the Republican indeed deserves it), he backpedaled, and hung his head, closed his mouth about the incident, and deflected all questions about it, like a good little Stephin Fetchit.

Chris P. Bacon, a blogger posted on TheCitizen.com, back in March:


He's Back..."Colorblind" Herman Cain Plays the Race Card Banjo While Stumping to Republicans in New Hampshire

The levels of hypocrisy demonstrated by Cain and his supporters in this moment are so glaring as to almost not merit comment for they are so utterly obvious. Presumably, Conservatives are colorblind. Yet, race is central--as it was in his minstrelesque CPAC speech several weeks ago--to Cain's performance. Again, Herman Cain suggests that he is "one of the good ones." Ultimately, Herman Cain is not like "those other blacks over there."

... public opinion data from sources as varied as the New York Times, Newsweek Magazine, the Pew Research Center, and the University of Washington all indicate that the Tea Party GOP is racially homogeneous, more likely to believe that black people are not hard working and are less intelligent than whites, that too much is made of "racial discrimination," and that white people are oppressed in America.
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Dr. Boyce Watkins, who writes for Black Voices (http://www.bvblackspin.com/2011/03/14/herman-cain-plays-the-race-card-against-barack-obama/) wrote:

" Recently, Cain was asked about race during a New Hampshire campaign speech. When asked about this controversial topic, Cain had this to say:

"Now people are over this first black president thing," he said. "But there are some people who will say, 'I'm not going to vote for another black guy because this one didn't work out. And my response is, 'Well, what about those 43 white guys you put in there? How did they work out? Don't condemn me because the first black one was bad."

Let's be clear, I don't agree with Herman Cain. I have a difficult time appreciating any African American who panders for votes by effectively saying, "I stand with you in your disdain for the way black people behave. I assure you that I'm different from the rest of them." Such a divide-and-conquer political strategy has been used since we had the house negro/field negro divide during slavery (there is no faster route to the top of the political heap than by becoming a black Republican). Rather than using hatred toward President Obama as a weapon for his own political advancement, Cain might be more respectable if he simply stood on his own credentials (as his fellow conservative Colin Powell might do). Being a black conservative presidential candidate doesn't mean you have to disrespect the first black president."
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So let's be clear. Cain is willing to use the tactics of "divide and conquer", "innuendo", and gross pandering to get to the top. He is willing to exacerbate and promote the stereotypes conservative whites have of blacks, at the expense of blacks in order to secure the nomination. The very Republican Party itself, is engaged in "voter suppression" in key states, with their Voter I.D. law initiatives. Personally, I can't think of anything more racist than the aforementioned. Herman Cain, in this instance is the very epitome of what it means to be an "Uncle Tom".
 
Alias said:
Any queer can claim to be a Christian. Hell, look at you. Jesus warned us of sheep in wolve's clothing. You're a perfect example.
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Uh, (to use your own words) one person implies that "Any queer can claim to be a Christian", and all of a sudden it is. Look at me? Where have you seen me at?
Would you even recognize me, if you ran into me on the street? I think not. "Sheep in wolves' (trouble with apostrophes?) clothing"???? You keep repeating that mantra like it means something. And I think you have it backwards, don't you? It's wolves in sheep's clothing, as the story goes. The sheep weren't pretending to be wolves.... the wolves were dressing as sheep to get near them, "undetected", you moron. Your stupid ass can't even tell a story straight. So, no...Jesus didn't warn anyone about sheep in wolves' clothing, and it certainly wouldn't apply to me, in any event. I'm not trying to perpetrate a fraud, or acquire something that isn't mine. You lied, and worse, you got it wrong. LOL
 
poet said:
Look, if I'm running around with a crowd that goes around "setting fires"....but I don't set any fires, and I don't believe in setting fires, but I'm running around with the crowd that does.....if and when they get arrested, I can't very well fall back on my laurels and protest my arrest, by claiming I didn't set any fires. Duh. You're tarred by association. Don't want to get tarred? Don't associate. People make their own molds. Don't get upset when it's pointed out to you.
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disregarding the entire stack of strawman hyperbole, we do have the freedom of association
 
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