The GOP Wouldn't Even Elect Jesus

poet said:
No reason to blame others for your sorry lot in life. Apparently "white privilege" afforded you no clear advantage. LOL.
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Your "behavior" continues to be amusing, as you attempt to do exactly what you accuse others of doing.

Dance clown, dance. :)
 
bravo said:
Married huh......thats .......thats........well, thats nice.......

Jumped on over that boomstick huh.....good for you.....is your better half pregnant yet....or maybe you are....nothing like kiddies to make a house a home....
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He's not really, you know.
He had said so, many other times; but then he admitted that it was a ceremony and isn't recognized.
I guess that makes it "faux marriage", kind of like his "faux intelligence". :)
 
poet said:
No. He was acting like the Christ. Christ is the object of Christian worship...not a Christian himself. Duh. He was a Jewish rabbi, who is also considered second entity in the Godhead of the Trinity. Your question is irrelevant.
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Christ wasn't Christlike? Cool story.
 
Hey dork breath (I mean that literally) My contention was to your claim, that Jesus, was a Jewish Rabbi. He was not recognized as such by the High Priest of the Temple- rather he was known by the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin as Jesus; son of Joseph the carpenter. He did claim to be God. Through heredity he could also claim his kingship; his priesthood; and the title of prophet. Still he was not a Jewish Rabbi on this earth during his time- he was a carpenter.

Jesus claims to being God.

Jesus told the Samaritan woman that he is the Messiah (Jn 4:25-26)
Jesus affirmed Peter's statement that he is the Messiah and Son of God (Mt 16:15-17, see also Mk 8:29-30, Lk 9:20-21)
Jesus told the high priest that he is the Messiah and Son of God (Mk 14:61-62, Mt 26:63-64, Lk 22:70)
Jesus told the Jews, "I and the Father are one." (Jn 10:24-38)
Jesus told the disciples, "You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am." (Jn 13:13)
Jesus forgave sins, which only God had the authority to do (Mk 2:5-11, Lk 5:20-24)
Jesus said that he had seen Abraham and that he is eternal: "'I tell you the truth,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'" (Jn 8:57-58)
Jesus said that he had seen God, which no one else could do (Jn 6:46)


While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?" "The son of David," they replied.

He said to them, "How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him 'Lord'? For he says, "'The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet."' If then David calls him 'Lord,' how can he be his son?" No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions.

Actually, this passage demonstrates that the Messiah has to be divine. The way to resolve the apparent contradiction between Psalm 110 and Isaiah 11 is for the Messiah to be divinity in human form: biologically a descendent of David, but divine and thus David's Lord.



poet said:
He didn't claim to be God....he asked his disciples who they thought that he was.


http://www.y-jesus.com/jesus_believe_god_1.php

Did Jesus claim to be God?

Did Jesus really claim to be God, or is that belief a misunderstanding of his words? Some words Jesus spoke reflect his humility as a servant and his limitations as a man. However, on other occasions Jesus made claims that only God could make.

Jesus didn’t parade around the hills of Judea shouting, “Hey everybody, look at me - I’m God!” On the other hand, neither did he go around proclaiming, “I am a teacher,” I am a prophet,” or, “I am the Messiah.” Yet his followers called him by each of those names. They also called him, “Lord.”

After the apostles died, several first and second century church leaders wrote of Jesus' deity. In fact, early church historian Larry Hurtado states, that from the very beginning of the church Jesus was worshipped as Lord along with God the Father.[1]

But what did Jesus Christ said say about himself. What did Jesus mean by the terms, “Son of Man,” and “Son of God?” If Jesus wasn’t God, why did his enemies accuse him of “blasphemy?” More importantly, if Jesus wasn’t God, why did he accept worship?

From Creator To Carpenter?

According to the New Testament, God came to earth in the Person of His Son, Jesus Christ.[2] The Bible teaches that Jesus is not a created being like the angels, but is the very Creator of the universe.[3] As theologian J. I. Packer writes, “The gospel tells us that our Creator has become our Redeemer.”[4]

The New Testament reveals that, in accordance with his Father's will, Jesus temporarily set aside his power and glory to become a tiny helpless baby. As he grew, Jesus worked in a carpenter shop, experienced hunger, got tired, and suffered pain and death like us. Then at age 30 he began his public ministry.


You really shouldn't talk about that which you have no knowledge of. -poet.
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poet said:
Did Jesus claim to be God?
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yes.....do you recall the passage in the gospel of John where the crowd wanted to stone him for blasphemy?.......it was because he said "I am" which is the reserved name of JHWH that was never to be spoken....also the charge the Sadducees laid on him before Pilate was that he claimed to be God......
 
poet said:
Lies and hate? Must be selective...as the white liberals have embraced me with open arms. You'd have to bring love, compassion and understanding to get some.
Evil? Obviously you don't know what it looks like. I continue to encourage you to employ a mirror, to gain insight into what it looks like. And the godless can't invoke Jesus, blasphemer.
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Of course the white liberals have embraced you with open arms. You fit the template perfectly. Two protected groups in one person. What more could they ask for.
 
Alias said:
Of course the white liberals have embraced you with open arms. You fit the template perfectly. Two protected groups in one person. What more could they ask for.
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You forgot to add who is also a total asshole. I have to admit I enjoyed watching lowiq grovel to get accepted into poet's inner rectum...err sanctum.
 
icedancer2theend said:
Hey dork breath (I mean that literally) My contention was to your claim, that Jesus, was a Jewish Rabbi. He was not recognized as such by the High Priest of the Temple- rather he was known by the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin as Jesus; son of Joseph the carpenter. He did claim to be God. Through heredity he could also claim his kingship; his priesthood; and the title of prophet. Still he was not a Jewish Rabbi on this earth during his time- he was a carpenter.

Jesus claims to being God.

Jesus told the Samaritan woman that he is the Messiah (Jn 4:25-26)
Jesus affirmed Peter's statement that he is the Messiah and Son of God (Mt 16:15-17, see also Mk 8:29-30, Lk 9:20-21)
Jesus told the high priest that he is the Messiah and Son of God (Mk 14:61-62, Mt 26:63-64, Lk 22:70)
Jesus told the Jews, "I and the Father are one." (Jn 10:24-38)
Jesus told the disciples, "You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am." (Jn 13:13)
Jesus forgave sins, which only God had the authority to do (Mk 2:5-11, Lk 5:20-24)
Jesus said that he had seen Abraham and that he is eternal: "'I tell you the truth,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'" (Jn 8:57-58)
Jesus said that he had seen God, which no one else could do (Jn 6:46)


While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?" "The son of David," they replied.

He said to them, "How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him 'Lord'? For he says, "'The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet."' If then David calls him 'Lord,' how can he be his son?" No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions.

Actually, this passage demonstrates that the Messiah has to be divine. The way to resolve the apparent contradiction between Psalm 110 and Isaiah 11 is for the Messiah to be divinity in human form: biologically a descendent of David, but divine and thus David's Lord.
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You don't know what you're talking about. For the last time.
 
poet said:
Never said that. Cart before the horse...you're either being disingenuous or retarded. Again.
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Or you don't know what the word "Christian" means. Did Christ believe he was God? If he did, then he was the first Christian, even by whatever definition you are going by... Jews did not believe he was the Messiah or God, and they still do not.
 
Damocles said:
Or you don't know what the word "Christian" means. Did Christ believe he was God? If he did, then he was the first Christian, even by whatever definition you are going by... Jews did not believe he was the Messiah or God, and they still do not.
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You're confused. Christ was not a Christian, by definition...he doesn't worship Himself. I think all of you people have lost your minds. You just say stuff without thinking of the ramifications. You don't understand what the word "Christian" means. Along with your cohorts.
 
poet said:
You're confused. Christ was not a Christian, by definition...he doesn't worship Himself. I think all of you people have lost your minds. You just say stuff without thinking of the ramifications. You don't understand what the word "Christian" means. Along with your cohorts.
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And the word Christian means, literally, Christlike. I think out of everybody here he was the most Christlike...

You have, in this thread, attempted to ignore that Jesus believed he was God, and prayed to God... Yeah, he was the first Christian, by every definition that the word means. At least by that book you claim to believe. I personally don't, but that's me. You won't see me bragging about being the best of the Christians, or stupid enough to believe that Jesus who cared about your soul would have run for an office like the Presidency... Not any more than Buddha would.
 
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