Could a black man win the GOP nomination?

[poet]

i absolutely agree. why i mostly ignore him is because he automatically starts calling people racists. that is not having an honest discussion. people like topspin actually harm the conversation regarding race and racism in the US. by running around calling me and others here who are not racists, racists all the time, diminishes the true meaning of what a racist and what true racism is. it is like over using the race card, as some point you have diminished its value to such an extent, it no longer has any real meaning.

there is racism in all cultures, countries, groups and intergalactic secret super smart alien species. i don't think it will ever go away, but we can work on diminishing it and that is done by discussion and knowledge. much racism can be directly attributed to ignorance. if we are open about that and can talk about it in a rational manner, it would go along way to bringing many people, cultures together.....

I don't have a problem being ignored. The folks that are meant to get my gist, generally "do". Those that don't, oh well. I don't run around calling everyone a racist...especially those with whom I have disagreements. Don't act like a racist, and you won't be called one. I'm not the one. I am not what you are used to. I'm educated, experienced and seasoned. I'm not the negro you see on the 5 O'Clock News.
So, when you attempt to treat me as such, you'll find resistance and "a reading". A lot folks around here, running around, don't think that they are racist, because they have had their mindsets all of their lives, and no one has told them otherwise. You can't say everything that comes to your mind. You have to filter and think about how it's going to impact another human being...not your servant, not your maid, not your stepping stone, not your footstool, and not your slave. When you and others accept the fact that you automatically receive "special treatment", carte blanche, and privileges afforded no one else, simply because you were born with white skin (although some of you are not 100 % white, in the first place, hello?), then we can start the conversation....because , like it or not, that is reality. And you can pretend that it doesn't exist...but you are only prolonging honest dialogue...and just like folks that don't vote have no business complaining about what government doesn't do, or does poorly, likewise, don't complain when folks point out the racism you don't want to acknowledge, but want to project..

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

I wish for a world where we don't consider color, but that isn't this time. There are some people who still judge a human by the color of their skin, as CSNY, sang, "teach your children well"

You're right, it sure as fuck isn't now, when liberals fall all over themselves to point out that someone is black, or insinuating their race has something to do with objection to their policies, or that rejection of their ideas can only be based on race. When pinheads like this chucklenoggin say; "I can't respect a line of thought that wants to ignore Herman Cain's race!" You are 100% absolutely right, we are nowhere near being a colorblind society, thanks to Liberals and Democrats who NEED race to be an issue in America, who NEED people divided on the basis of skin color, who NEED to denigrate their opposition with false charges of rasicm and bigotry, who NEED to pretend it's still 1954, and Republicans are trying to return to the days of slavery and Jim Crow. You're absolutely right, we have a really LONG way to go!

 

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Could a black man win the GOP nomination?

thinking that means the author is on crack? wow. there are folks who thought a black man never had a chance at the dem nom....don't be so naive and biased. there was much more said in the article that you completely ignored.

 

[poet]

thinking that means the author is on crack? wow. there are folks who thought a black man never had a chance at the dem nom....don't be so naive and biased. there was much more said in the article that you completely ignored.

Excuse me, but are you in contact with reality? The Republicans and the Tea Party is so obsessed with getting rid of the N-word (because you know that's what they call him out of earshot) in the White House, presently, no one in their right mind believes that they want to put another back in there. If they do, they are "smooth" on crack. Are you serious?

 

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UOTE=poet;854195]I don't have a problem being ignored. The folks that are meant to get my gist, generally "do". Those that don't, oh well. I don't run around calling everyone a racist...especially those with whom I have disagreements. Don't act like a racist, and you won't be called one. I'm not the one. I am not what you are used to. I'm educated, experienced and seasoned. I'm not the negro you see on the 5 O'Clock News.

you are really quite the racist. you believe white people view you as the negro on TV, thus, your perception of me and others is clearly racist. you have called over half the board a racist based on nothing, myself included.

So, when you attempt to treat me as such, you'll find resistance and "a reading". A lot folks around here, running around, don't think that they are racist, because they have had their mindsets all of their lives, and no one has told them otherwise. You can't say everything that comes to your mind. You have to filter and think about how it's going to impact another human being...not your servant, not your maid, not your stepping stone, not your footstool, and not your slave. When you and others accept the fact that you automatically receive "special treatment", carte blanche, and privileges afforded no one else, simply because you were born with white skin (although some of you are not 100 % white, in the first place, hello?), then we can start the conversation....because , like it or not, that is reality. And you can pretend that it doesn't exist...but you are only prolonging honest dialogue...and just like folks that don't vote have no business complaining about what government doesn't do, or does poorly, likewise, don't complain when folks point out the racism you don't want to acknowledge, but want to project..

this paragraph exhibits classic symptoms of bigotry. you assume a group of people are guilty of something based on their skin color. i don't know if you mean "you" as in me or the plural "you"....but you sure come off as if you're talking to me and i have never treated you that way....you have a major chip on your shoulder and running around like you're constantly treated like a slave, servant etc....is pure bullshit. i have no doubt that some may treat you that way, at the same time, most of us, regardless of skin color are treated the same way. i've had a knife pulled on me just for being white. do you see me running around accusing you of treating me poorly because some guy was a racist? no.

the reality is, you want to be a victim. you relish in believing you're superior because others must be racist. that isn't a reality view, that is pure fiction.

 

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Excuse me, but are you in contact with reality? The Republicans and the Tea Party is so obsessed with getting rid of the N-word (because you know that's what they call him out of earshot) in the White House, presently, no one in their right mind believes that they want to put another back in there. If they do, they are "smooth" on crack. Are you serious?

It must be because he's an n-bomb I mean Republicans sure never went after Bill Clinton. Nope not partisanship just race.

 

[poet]

You're right, it sure as fuck isn't now, when liberals fall all over themselves to point out that someone is black, or insinuating their race has something to do with objection to their policies, or that rejection of their ideas can only be based on race. When pinheads like this chucklenoggin say; "I can't respect a line of thought that wants to ignore Herman Cain's race!" You are 100% absolutely right, we are nowhere near being a colorblind society, thanks to Liberals and Democrats who NEED race to be an issue in America, who NEED people divided on the basis of skin color, who NEED to denigrate their opposition with false charges of rasicm and bigotry, who NEED to pretend it's still 1954, and Republicans are trying to return to the days of slavery and Jim Crow. You're absolutely right, we have a really LONG way to go!

LOL. Don't go around blaming your proclivities on liberals and Democrats. You were always racist and bigoted....President Obama just brought it out into the open. Oops. You have no clothes on. Shame.

 

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Excuse me, but are you in contact with reality? The Republicans and the Tea Party is so obsessed with getting rid of the N-word (because you know that's what they call him out of earshot) in the White House, presently, no one in their right mind believes that they want to put another back in there. If they do, they are "smooth" on crack. Are you serious?

prove your statement. show where the entire gop and the tea party hate obama because he is black and want him out solely because he is black. nothing but pure rubbish. that damo thinks you have something to offer is simply amazing.

 

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It must be because he's an n-bomb I mean Republicans sure never went after Bill Clinton. Nope not partisanship just race.

i can't believe i gave this guy a shot....i have no idea what posts damo saw that he thought this guy had something to offer

 

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The Republicans and the Tea Party is so obsessed with getting rid of the N-word (because you know that's what they call him out of earshot) in the White House...

You know, I've listened to you fuckwits make these allegations for nearly 4 years, and I have yet to see one single shred of evidence to back any of it up. Seems like, in this day of digital technology, everyone with a video camera or recorder on their cell phone and such, that someone, somewhere, might have caught a few seconds of off-the-record banter to support your allegation.... you know, like the video we have of ACORN administering government assistance to child prostitution rings and all... like Shirley Sherod admitting she doled out assistance on the basis of race alone... seems like, some conscientious liberal would have snagged a teabagger by now, but we have NOTHING... ZILCH.... NADDA! That is, with the exception of YOUR expert opinion of what Tea Party people say when out of ear shot....I guess you must be like Tinkerbell, just flitting around in the room un-noticed when they are discussing these things, how else would you know what Tea Partiers say when out of ear shot?

 

[poet]

you are really quite the racist. you believe white people view you as the negro on TV, thus, your perception of me and others is clearly racist. you have called over half the board a racist based on nothing, myself included.



this paragraph exhibits classic symptoms of bigotry. you assume a group of people are guilty of something based on their skin color. i don't know if you mean "you" as in me or the plural "you"....but you sure come off as if you're talking to me and i have never treated you that way....you have a major chip on your shoulder and running around like you're constantly treated like a slave, servant etc....is pure bullshit. i have no doubt that some may treat you that way, at the same time, most of us, regardless of skin color are treated the same way. i've had a knife pulled on me just for being white. do you see me running around accusing you of treating me poorly because some guy was a racist? no.

the reality is, you want to be a victim. you relish in believing you're superior because others must be racist. that isn't a reality view, that is pure fiction.

I don't know you...and frankly, I don't care to. If I have shown you "shade" and resentment, it was because you posted commentary justifying it. I'm not the type of person that goes looking for a fight...but after being attacked and insulted, time and time again, I'll be damned if I run from it. No victim here. No one is big enough or smart enough to kick my proverbial ass. No one. Assume? Assume shit.
I know what racism looks like. I know what it sounds like. I know "code". I know when folks are being "shady". I've been on forums for 10 years or more...don't try to sell me any wolf tickets.
You're "projecting'. Try looking in a mirror. A knife? Pulled on you for being white? I've had my livelihood snatched from me for being black and competent. You might recover from knife wound, but you are sure to lose your mind when you so closely identify with your job, you've been fired from "wrongfully". How dare you compare yourself with me. You don't know me, or what I've gone through.
A victim capitulates. I'm on these forums kicking asses and taking numbers. I'm superior because I worked at it.

 

[poet]

prove your statement. show where the entire gop and the tea party hate obama because he is black and want him out solely because he is black. nothing but pure rubbish. that damo thinks you have something to offer is simply amazing.

You prove that it's not the truth. I don't have to prove it. McConnell said as much. Palin said as much. Joe Wilson said as much. You are out of contact with reality. Damo is smarter than I gave him credit for. My bad.

 

[poet]

You know, I've listened to you fuckwits make these allegations for nearly 4 years, and I have yet to see one single shred of evidence to back any of it up. Seems like, in this day of digital technology, everyone with a video camera or recorder on their cell phone and such, that someone, somewhere, might have caught a few seconds of off-the-record banter to support your allegation.... you know, like the video we have of ACORN administering government assistance to child prostitution rings and all... like Shirley Sherod admitting she doled out assistance on the basis of race alone... seems like, some conscientious liberal would have snagged a teabagger by now, but we have NOTHING... ZILCH.... NADDA! That is, with the exception of YOUR expert opinion of what Tea Party people say when out of ear shot....I guess you must be like Tinkerbell, just flitting around in the room un-noticed when they are discussing these things, how else would you know what Tea Partiers say when out of ear shot?

LOL. Proof that you are perhaps, the stupidest member of this forum.

 

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prove your statement. show where the entire gop and the tea party hate obama because he is black and want him out solely because he is black. nothing but pure rubbish. that damo thinks you have something to offer is simply amazing.

Like I said, you have to look past some of the angry to get to the person. I've gotten used to doing that with some people that hang here. Convince him by being you, not by trying to defend. I would say that 98% of the republican party look at the man's policies and think that we can't afford this spendthrift President any longer... I am sure that there are some that might call him the n-word in the white house. However "they" don't all call him that behind his back or in secret. I've not heard it once except from Ds on this site, webbway, and apparently (surprised here, I don't see how one can make it in the military without losing that part of you) bravo.

 

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I don't know you...and frankly, I don't care to. If I have shown you "shade" and resentment, it was because you posted commentary justifying it. I'm not the type of person that goes looking for a fight...but after being attacked and insulted, time and time again, I'll be damned if I run from it. No victim here. No one is big enough or smart enough to kick my proverbial ass. No one. Assume? Assume shit.
I know what racism looks like. I know what it sounds like. I know "code". I know when folks are being "shady". I've been on forums for 10 years or more...don't try to sell me any wolf tickets.
You're "projecting'. Try looking in a mirror. A knife? Pulled on you for being white? I've had my livelihood snatched from me for being black and competent. You might recover from knife wound, but you are sure to lose your mind when you so closely identify with your job, you've been fired from "wrongfully". How dare you compare yourself with me. You don't know me, or what I've gone through.
A victim capitulates. I'm on these forums kicking asses and taking numbers. I'm superior because I worked at it.

what commentary? you allegedly had me on ignore and half the board. there has been no commentary from me to show you i am racist. that is the simple truth.

guess what, you are not the only person in the world to experience and know racism. i have known racism, my wife has known racism, many friends have known racism, of numerous ethnicities and they don't run around calling virtually everyone a racist and crying about how bad they have been treated.

see, you demean what happened to me. your superior to me because you've had more racism. what a fucking joke. to demean having a knife put to your face is complete bigotry. yeah, your racism is worse than mine so the racism i experienced doesn't count. and that wasn't the only event where i've experienced racism. see, you ASSumed your bigotted stance yet again. you are victim, nothing more.

trust me, i would never compare myself to a dishonest, bitter person who lives in victim hood. you have that one right, you and are nothing alike.

 

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LOL. Don't go around blaming your proclivities on liberals and Democrats. You were always racist and bigoted....President Obama just brought it out into the open. Oops. You have no clothes on. Shame.

You can say whatever you please about me, I am comfortable in my skin. I know I am not a racist, so it doesn't matter what you say. In fact, when people call me racist, I get a belly-laugh out of it... My family gene pool can best be described as "Heinz 57" ...I have a plethora of diversity in my genealogy/ancestry. I am part Cherokee and Creek, part Asian, part Black, part Creole (black), part Black Dutch, part Nordic, part German, part Scott, part Spanish.... the list goes on and on. How in the hell am I supposed to be a racist, when a racist believes in racial superiority... (i.e.;racial purity)... my particular race is very 'polluted', and I am very proud of my diverse heritage. So you go ahead and keep mouthing off about people you absolutely know nothing about, okay? Because ever time you spew this shit, people see what a goddamn racist piece of dog shit you are, and they can REJECT you on the merit of your bigoted character, regardless of your skin color.

 

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Like I said, you have to look past some of the angry to get to the person. I've gotten used to doing that with some people that hang here. Convince him by being you, not by trying to defend. I would say that 98% of the republican party look at the man's policies and think that we can't afford this spendthrift President any longer... I am sure that there are some that might call him the n-word in the white house. However "they" don't all call him that behind his back or in secret. I've not heard it once except from Ds on this site, webbway, and apparently (surprised here, I don't see how one can make it in the military without losing that part of you) bravo.

i do defend, it is a little ingrained. i also did try to get know the person by offering a personal experience and that went no where and apparently enraged him further. if someone chooses to be angry and a victim all their life, there is little one can do. you're better at the zen thing, though i have tried a little of it.

i'll see if i can break through the anger.

 

[poet]

what commentary? you allegedly had me on ignore and half the board. there has been no commentary from me to show you i am racist. that is the simple truth.

guess what, you are not the only person in the world to experience and know racism. i have known racism, my wife has known racism, many friends have known racism, of numerous ethnicities and they don't run around calling virtually everyone a racist and crying about how bad they have been treated.

see, you demean what happened to me. your superior to me because you've had more racism. what a fucking joke. to demean having a knife put to your face is complete bigotry. yeah, your racism is worse than mine so the racism i experienced doesn't count. and that wasn't the only event where i've experienced racism. see, you ASSumed your bigotted stance yet again. you are victim, nothing more.

trust me, i would never compare myself to a dishonest, bitter person who lives in victim hood. you have that one right, you and are nothing alike.

You know ...no matter how many times you say "victim" and "victimhood", it is no closer symbolic to me. You saying it, doesn't make it so. That is just a cop out, on your part, as you dig in your position, which has no basis in fact. I'm superior, on so many levels...intellectually, educationally, spiritually, humanistically, et al. I never said my experiences of racism made me superior...that is your take, not mine.
And sweetie...I've endured racism, and I'm still standing. But don't expect to shove it in my face, and for me to take it without lubrication. Again, I haven't called everyone a racist, because everyone is not a racist. But those that are, "are'. But they want to play "the victim role". "Poet called us all racists...and we're nothing of a kind.....we should be able to hate whomever we choose, and no one should say a word". Talk about crying. I ain't crying. Call me nigger. Call me jiggaboo. Call me spear chunker. Call me Sambo. But don't call me late for dinner. I 'm none of those things. Sticks and mother fucking stones.
But I will call your asses out on it. And that's what you can't stomach. An educated nigger calling you a stupid, racist white whatchimacallit. Bitter? Baby, I'm too joyful to ever be bitter.

 

[poet]

You can say whatever you please about me, I am comfortable in my skin. I know I am not a racist, so it doesn't matter what you say. In fact, when people call me racist, I get a belly-laugh out of it... My family gene pool can best be described as "Heinz 57" ...I have a plethora of diversity in my genealogy/ancestry. I am part Cherokee and Creek, part Asian, part Black, part Creole (black), part Black Dutch, part Nordic, part German, part Scott, part Spanish.... the list goes on and on. How in the hell am I supposed to be a racist, when a racist believes in racial superiority... (i.e.;racial purity)... my particular race is very 'polluted', and I am very proud of my diverse heritage. So you go ahead and keep mouthing off about people you absolutely know nothing about, okay? Because ever time you spew this shit, people see what a goddamn racist piece of dog shit you are, and they can REJECT you on the merit of your bigoted character, regardless of your skin color.

keep saying it...it'll make your teeth white.

 

[cawacko]

You can say whatever you please about me, I am comfortable in my skin. I know I am not a racist, so it doesn't matter what you say. In fact, when people call me racist, I get a belly-laugh out of it... My family gene pool can best be described as "Heinz 57" ...I have a plethora of diversity in my genealogy/ancestry. I am part Cherokee and Creek, part Asian, part Black, part Creole (black), part Black Dutch, part Nordic, part German, part Scott, part Spanish.... the list goes on and on. How in the hell am I supposed to be a racist, when a racist believes in racial superiority... (i.e.;racial purity)... my particular race is very 'polluted', and I am very proud of my diverse heritage. So you go ahead and keep mouthing off about people you absolutely know nothing about, okay? Because ever time you spew this shit, people see what a goddamn racist piece of dog shit you are, and they can REJECT you on the merit of your bigoted character, regardless of your skin color.

Are you Tiger Woods?