Black ‘Mobs’ Attack White Patrons Outside Wis. State Fair

Damocles said:
It's what appears to have happened, you can reiterate and clear it up, but this is weak. Tell us what you really think.
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I don't see how I made it clear that we should "ignore it as simple retribution", as you stated. I'd love to see what words I wrote that gave you that idea.

My point was about media coverage, period. Because that was the point of the OP.
 
Onceler said:
The reason media coverage is the way it is has to do with the fact that white on black prejuduce & violence has been much more prevalent & a much greater problem in the U.S. over the years than the reverse. It's the same concept as a huge oil spill getting more coverage than someone littering.

This is also one of Yurt's things - the idea that there is some sort of equivalency with reverse racism. There really isn't, at least not yet, and never has been. It's a strange thing to be obsessed with.
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Not one word about the motivation for the incident. What causes events like this that are happening more frequently in our major urban centers with large populations of blacks?

Do you feel these are paybacks for something that happened in the past and should be allowed to happen as retribution for past white attacks on blacks?
 
Alias said:
Onceler said:
The reason media coverage is the way it is has to do with the fact that white on black prejuduce & violence has been much more prevalent & a much greater problem in the U.S. over the years than the reverse. It's the same concept as a huge oil spill getting more coverage than someone littering.

This is also one of Yurt's things - the idea that there is some sort of equivalency with reverse racism. There really isn't, at least not yet, and never has been. It's a strange thing to be obsessed with.
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Not one word about the motivation for the incident. What causes events like this that are happening more frequently in our major urban centers with large populations of blacks?
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The way I read the OP, it's about media coverage, not the actual incident. My comments on this thread have been about the media coverage.

As for the incident, I don't know why these are happening more frequently, if they are. Have you seen stats to that effect? Violence is a bummer, any way you slice it. I was never commenting on the incident itself, though it's interesting to see how many righties thought that.
 
Onceler said:
I don't see how I made it clear that we should "ignore it as simple retribution", as you stated. I'd love to see what words I wrote that gave you that idea.

My point was about media coverage, period. Because that was the point of the OP.
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Do you believe this is retribution for something that happened in the past even before these scum were born?
 
So basically what we have here is a couple posters who really don't care why this is happening as long as everyone knows that righties are stupid. Now don't forget, the left is intelligent and the right is dumb, racist, bigotted, and will not pay their fair share.

Then you idiots wonder why you get called asswipes.
 
Onceler said:
Weird comment. Did you only just realize that the OP was about media coverage?

Bummer...
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BS. My comment is right on the money. You can't speak about the event. You can't give your personal opinion. That's why I said your initial post in this thread was cowardly. You can attack the messenger, but you can't define the problem and discuss the problem. That's because those you defend are responsible for this. Your liberal policies and buying votes for generations have caused scenes like this all over major urban centers in the USA. And all you and your pals can do is call righties dumb, crazy racists.

But, hey, we have our first black President and that's neat and everything, so all you racist white honkeys just learn to take it like your forefathers dished it out to the black folks. That's your philosophy. You're a joke.
 
Alias said:
BS. My comment is right on the money. You can't speak about the event. You can't give your personal opinion. That's why I said your initial post in this thread was cowardly. You can attack the messenger, but you can't define the problem and discuss the problem. That's because those you defend are responsible for this. Your liberal policies and buying votes for generations have caused scenes like this all over major urban centers in the USA. And all you and your pals can do is call righties dumb, crazy racists.

But, hey, we have our first black President and that's neat and everything, so all you racist white honkeys just learn to take it like your forefathers dished it out to the black folks. That's your philosophy. You're a joke.
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Listen idiot. This is a debate forum.

We debate topics.

The topic of this thread is the media coverage of the event.

If you want to debate the event itself, start another thread. That's how it works, plain and simple. No one is stopping you from starting a thread.

Furthermore, your comment in not right on the money, but rather it misses the mark entirely so shut the fuck up.
 
Return of Dune said:
Listen idiot. This is a debate forum.

We debate topics.

The topic of this thread is the media coverage of the event.

If you want to debate the event itself, start another thread. That's how it works, plain and simple. No one is stopping you from starting a thread.

Furthermore, your comment in not right on the money, but rather it misses the mark entirely so shut the fuck up.
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The thread is about the riot AND its coverage. The discussion of both issues is appropriate AND relevant.
 
Onceler said:
The reason media coverage is the way it is has to do with the fact that white on black prejuduce & violence has been much more prevalent & a much greater problem in the U.S. over the years than the reverse. It's the same concept as a huge oil spill getting more coverage than someone littering.

This is also one of Yurt's things - the idea that there is some sort of equivalency with reverse racism. There really isn't, at least not yet, and never has been. It's a strange thing to be obsessed with.
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why is it when anyone post something about black racism, onceler, nigel, topspin go into full defense mode? instead of addressing the racism that occurred, they imediately attack whoever posted the story. as we can see here, they have accused me of racism and being obsessed with "reverse" racism. first off, this is not reverse racism. it is racism, period. secondly, attack the messenger instead of addressing the facts it what onceler is great at. lastly, i fail to see how posting this thread makes me a racist. why is it you guys have to defend this racism and attack anyone who condemns it? because whites were more racist 50 years ago. that logic is absurd. well...50 years ago whites were more racist, so we shouldn't have a problem with any black racism today.

:rolleyes:
 
WinterBorn said:
I find it curious that this thread quickly became more about race-baiting and accusations of racism than about the story.

If indeed, there were mobs of black kids attacking mostly white people, is reporting that considered racism? And wouldn't the attacks themselves be racist?

When there have been mobs of white people attacking blacks it is reported as such, and the disgust is apparent from both sides of the political aisle. (with a few ignorant exceptions)
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exactly. i don't think a single liberal has condemned the racism. instead, they have defended it and attacked anyone who said anything about racism.
 
Return of Dune said:
Listen idiot. This is a debate forum.

We debate topics.

The topic of this thread is the media coverage of the event.

If you want to debate the event itself, start another thread. That's how it works, plain and simple. No one is stopping you from starting a thread.

Furthermore, your comment in not right on the money, but rather it misses the mark entirely so shut the fuck up.
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tff...you now want a thread to be about the original topic when just the other day you got all pissed at horse poster because he asked you to stick to the topic...more whiny hypocrisy from dunetroll...

additionally, this thread is NOT just about the media coverage you dishonest troll...it is about the racism as well... learn to read or stfu.
 
Yurt said:
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ooooops....should not call someone else out on hyperbole when i use hyperbole in the same thread. must, must be more discreet next time.

50 years is a long time onceler. comparing stats on racial issues over such a long period misses the mark entirely. why don't we go back thousands of years? race as a form of subjugation is nothing new, but you and your liberal ilk act as if it is only fair skinned (whites) who are guilty of such subjugation. you ignore history in order to promote your political agenda. in order to discuss ratios, we first have to agree that ratios are stats, collected and thus recorded. that being said, such a record is bound to be incomplete. it doesn't matter if there was more white on black crimes 50, 45 years ago, in determining whether racism exists today. your logic seemingly inidicates, that if we have more X racism over a set period of time, given that there was more X racism at the start of the time period, then today's racism from Y, is not to be considered as detrimental, because over a 50 year period, X group has engaged in more racism.

your pathetic apologetic excuse for racism is duly noted.
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i'm not surprised this was too much for onceler to handle....good thing he tucked his tail in and ran away
 
Ice Dancer said:
The thread is about the riot AND its coverage. The discussion of both issues is appropriate AND relevant.
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Fine, you want to discuss the event, let's begin

Every week if one reads multiple newspapers, one reads of a family in hopeless financial straites, becoming victims of murder suicide.

Blacks suffer far great finacial derpivation than whites during hard times, especialy young uneducated and unskilled.

The un-employment figures are skewed, (as we all know) but the part that is seldom discussed is the disparity of un-employment with regards to income, specificaly, at or above $150K salary, unemployment is 1% or about the number of those voluntarily between jobs regardless of the economy. As we recede down the income scale, the number of un-employed increases in inverse proportion to income. At $40K we see about 9% or whatever it happens to be today. When we reach $10K the percentage jumps to a staggering 40%. Remember, these figures are based on un-employment statistics. These are people who WANT to work. Further, without doubt, the numbers are even higher for blacks.

Milwaukee is an industrial city, like Detroit. The industrial states have been hit hardest of all by un-employment. Young black men who live there are likely financialy hopeless, more so than a working person can imagine in their wildest nightmares.

Armegeddon is coming rich white conservative mutherfuckers. It has started already, where the pain is the greatest. As the economic pain spreads and increases, your neighborhood will not be safe either. The rich, of course know all this, and are ready for it, since they caused it by their over the top greed. The rich had enough to be comfortable and then some. It was madness on their part to crush and break so many familys and spirits so that they might have a little bit more, and they will deserve what they get as they are slaughtered. This lastest Tea Party madness is but the icing on the cake. Is it really that hard to study the french revolution, to know what comes next?

Calling it about race is one way the well to do, the comfortable and the wealthy can deny the reality of what they have created, nothing more.
 
Yurt said:
i'm not surprised this was too much for onceler to handle....good thing he tucked his tail in and ran away
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It didn't answer my question, dumbo. Now, who was tucking their tail in & running away? How fearful can you be of a simple question?
 
Onceler said:
It didn't answer my question, dumbo. Now, who was tucking their tail in & running away? How fearful can you be of a simple question?
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i didn't think you could actually use reason and address the issue. i'm not surprised you're running away again. defending racism must get tiring for you.
 
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