Pence is an Idiot (Worse that Previously Feared)

[IBDaMann]

Give yourself a pat on the back if you realize just what kind of bullet we all dodged by Mike Pence outing himself as a faithless, backstabbing RINO shit.

From his newsroom chair as a CNN contributor, Mike "IB4Ukraine" Pence, extended to Americans his sage advice on how Donald Trump should handle negotiations with Putin, i.e. in the most disrespectful way possible, taunt Putin with threats of throwing full support behind Ukraine! Totally brilliant.


(1:10)
"At the end of the day, it's important to remember that the bad guy here is Putin. Putin launched an unprovoked, brutal invasion more than three years ago. I've traveled to Ukraine twice; I've literally walked the streets, seen the aftermath of that brutal invasion, and now, more than ever, America and her allies need to stand strongly with Ukraine, and create the conditions for a just and lasting peace."

(2:33)
"Look, I served alongside the President for four years, I know his style in dealing with these dictators, it's the velvet glove, but I think the hammer needs to come, and it needs to come immediately. I think the President, as he welcomes President Zelenskyy to the Oval Office tomorrow and a whole cast of our allies in Europe that are going to be joining him, I think at the same time he ought to pick up the phone and ask majority leader John Thune to immediately pass the secondary sanctions bill that is supported by virtually everyone in the United States Senate. I think the combination of engagement but also making it clear to Putin that we are prepared to take actions that would literally break his economy even while we redouble our commitment to the security of Ukraine and to working closely with our European allies."

Did I mention that this is brilliant? We all know that Pence is a moron but now he is flaunting it.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Trump did much better this time with Vance......but he should not be let off the hook for Pence.

 

[gfm7175]

Give yourself a pat on the back if you realize just what kind of bullet we all dodged by Mike Pence outing himself as a faithless, backstabbing RINO shit.

**proceeds to give myself a pat on the back**

From his newsroom chair as a CNN contributor, Mike "IB4Ukraine" Pence, extended to Americans his sage advice on how Donald Trump should handle negotiations with Putin, i.e. in the most disrespectful way possible, taunt Putin with threats of throwing full support behind Ukraine! Totally brilliant.

So, in other words, "Thirty" Pence wants to continue onward with the very same "poking the bear" words/actions that the Autopen Regime purposely did in order to stoke up the flames of war in the first place? Yes, TOTALLY brilliant there, "Thirty" Pence.

I nominate "Thirty" Pence for the very front lines of the war that he so desperately wants the USA to continue and to even put boots on the ground for.

(1:10)
"At the end of the day, it's important to remember that the bad guy here is Putin.

... and not the warmongering CIA-installed DICTATOR of Ukraine, nor the Autopen Regime who purposely "poked the bear" to stoke up the flames of war in the first place? Nahhhhh... JUUUUST "evil" Putin... "Russia bad... Russia terrible... Russia HORRIBLE, even".

Got it, "Thirty" Pence... Do you have any more "words of warmongering wisdom" for us, "Thirty" Pence?

Putin launched an unprovoked, brutal invasion more than three years ago.

A bald-faced LIE.

I've traveled to Ukraine twice; I've literally walked the streets, seen the aftermath of that brutal invasion, and now, more than ever, America and her allies need to stand strongly with Ukraine, and create the conditions for a just and lasting peace."

... by stoking the flames of war in the exact same manner that the Autopen Regime did. BRILLIANT!

(2:33)
"Look, I served alongside the President for four years, I know his style in dealing with these dictators,

... like Zelenskyy?? "SLAVA UKRAINI!!!!!"

it's the velvet glove,

... which would be WAYYYYYYYY too peaceful and diplomatic... Nah, can't have any of that...

but I think the hammer needs to come, and it needs to come immediately.

MUST. HAVE. WAR!!!!!! ... NOW!!!!!!!, says "Thirty" Pence.

I think the President, as he welcomes President Zelenskyy to the Oval Office tomorrow and a whole cast of our allies in Europe that are going to be joining him,

"our allies in Europe", says "Thirty" Pence...

I think at the same time he ought to pick up the phone and ask majority leader John Thune to immediately pass the secondary sanctions bill that is supported by virtually everyone in the United States Senate.

Of course "Thirty" Pence thinks that he knows better than President Trump... "Thirty" Pence wants HOSTILITY towards Russia. He HATES Russia. Russia BAD, TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE!!!

Is this the "creating conditions for a just and lasting peace" that he was mentioning earlier?

I think the combination of engagement but also making it clear to Putin that we are prepared to take actions that would literally break his economy even while we redouble our commitment to the security of Ukraine and to working closely with our European allies."

Did I mention that this is brilliant? We all know that Pence is a moron but now he is flaunting it.

Yes, he's just flaunting his stupidity and warmongering at this point.

No wonder I (at the relevant time) saw so many "Trump/Pence" yard signs with the Pence part cut off of them...

 

[gfm7175]

Trump did much better this time with Vance......but he should not be let off the hook for Pence.

Vance is leaps and bounds better than Pence ever was. However, keep a close eye on Vance with regard to his positions on anything connected to Peter Thiel, "big tech", and Palantir.

 

[IBDaMann]

However, keep a close eye on Vance with regard to his positions on anything connected to Peter Thiel, "big tech", and Palantir.

However, keep a close eye on Rubio. He pulled a Pence even before Pence did. Rubio Penced Trump as Trump was becoming President in order to prevent Trump from legitimately taking office as President, and Pence Penced Trump at the end of his first term in order to prevent Trump from legitimately taking office as President for his second term.

I find Vance to be much better than either Rubio or Pence. Between JD and Tulsi, I still go with JD. Yes, Tulsi would give Vance a run for his money, but she seems ready to stop the MAGA drive forward and ready to just be content with whatever the current status quo is. Vance will keep MAGA moving forward, I believe.

I fully expect Vance to get the Republican nomination, and for Rubio to have an entitled hissie-fit over it (which he will finagle into a VP candidacy).

 

[IBDaMann]

**proceeds to give myself a pat on the back**

Well earned.

"Thirty" Pence.

This is excellent. I had never heard/seen this before.

 

[AProudLefty]

Because he said Putin is bad?

 

[gfm7175]

Well earned.

This is excellent. I had never heard/seen this before.

"Thirty" Pence is my favorite/preferred nickname for him (especially since he's a self-proclaimed Christian).

 

[ZenMode]

What is it with MAGA and loving brutal dictators?

 

[gfm7175]

However, keep a close eye on Rubio. He pulled a Pence even before Pence did. Rubio Penced Trump as Trump was becoming President in order to prevent Trump from legitimately taking office as President, and Pence Penced Trump at the end of his first term in order to prevent Trump from legitimately taking office as President for his second term.

Oh I definitely agree. Rubio deserves a close eye too (in fact, ANYONE does at least to some extent). I haven't forgotten Rubio's corrupt "SSCI Chair" past.

What I will say about Rubio is that, as of currently, he has so-far been doing a DAMN good job in his multiple roles in the Trump 2.0 Administration, and his months-ago truthful public admission that the "Russia/Ukraine" war was really just a "proxy war for the USA against Russia" came completely out of left field (especially for someone with a Deep State past). So either he's now "reformed" from his past or he's still a crooked "Deep Stater" but is playing his part well.

I find Vance to be much better than either Rubio or Pence.

I find both Vance and Rubio to be MUCH better than Pence.

I find that both Vance and Rubio are doing DAMN good jobs in their current roles in the Trump 2.0 Administration.

Yes, Rubio has a corrupt past that shouldn't be forgotten or glossed over by any means when watching his current actions. However, Vance doesn't have a rosy red past either. In fact, Vance's "life story" reads eerily similar to Obama's in a number of ways. That doesn't mean that Vance = Obama (not even CLOSE!), but it's something to be aware of when keeping an eye on him, and it COULD be an indication that Vance COULD have been groomed for President for quite some time now (much like Obama was during his days in the spotlight).

I say this all in a manner that's less of a knock on Vance (or Rubio) and more-so towards maintaining a healthy skepticism of any political figure.

Between JD and Tulsi, I still go with JD. Yes, Tulsi would give Vance a run for his money, but she seems ready to stop the MAGA drive forward and ready to just be content with whatever the current status quo is. Vance will keep MAGA moving forward, I believe.

I'm not sure who I'd go with atm. I'm "all ears" between those two (and even with Rubio). Tulsi likewise doesn't have a "rosy red" past, but like Rubio, she seems to have "reformed" ("seems to" being the key words). She's so-far been doing a VERY good job in a VERY pivotal role in the Trump 2.0 Administration.

I like JD a lot too. He's done VERY well, both as a Senator and as a VP. He's a good communicator who frames his arguments quite well (in "plain language").

TLDR: I'm currently open to all three of them as a "successor" (and am equally skeptical of all three of them). ATM, I would lean towards Vance over the other two. Obviously, NONE of them are Trump or will ever be Trump. Enjoy it now!

I fully expect Vance to get the Republican nomination, and for Rubio to have an entitled hissie-fit over it (which he will finagle into a VP candidacy).

At this point in time, I fully expect Vance to get it too (of course, it's very early yet). I likewise wouldn't put a hissie-fit of any sort past Rubio.

 

[gfm7175]

What is it with MAGA and loving brutal dictators?

I don't love Zelenskyy by any means... so idk what you're talking about...

 

[archives]

Give yourself a pat on the back if you realize just what kind of bullet we all dodged by Mike Pence outing himself as a faithless, backstabbing RINO shit.

From his newsroom chair as a CNN contributor, Mike "IB4Ukraine" Pence, extended to Americans his sage advice on how Donald Trump should handle negotiations with Putin, i.e. in the most disrespectful way possible, taunt Putin with threats of throwing full support behind Ukraine! Totally brilliant.


(1:10)
"At the end of the day, it's important to remember that the bad guy here is Putin. Putin launched an unprovoked, brutal invasion more than three years ago. I've traveled to Ukraine twice; I've literally walked the streets, seen the aftermath of that brutal invasion, and now, more than ever, America and her allies need to stand strongly with Ukraine, and create the conditions for a just and lasting peace."

(2:33)
"Look, I served alongside the President for four years, I know his style in dealing with these dictators, it's the velvet glove, but I think the hammer needs to come, and it needs to come immediately. I think the President, as he welcomes President Zelenskyy to the Oval Office tomorrow and a whole cast of our allies in Europe that are going to be joining him, I think at the same time he ought to pick up the phone and ask majority leader John Thune to immediately pass the secondary sanctions bill that is supported by virtually everyone in the United States Senate. I think the combination of engagement but also making it clear to Putin that we are prepared to take actions that would literally break his economy even while we redouble our commitment to the security of Ukraine and to working closely with our European allies."

Did I mention that this is brilliant? We all know that Pence is a moron but now he is flaunting it.

Admit the truth, you MAGA are just pissed at Pence cause he didn’t “do the right thing,” because he followed the Constitution and wouldn’t participate in Trump’s attempt to negate the voice of the American people in 2020

 

[IBDaMann]

What is it with MAGA and loving brutal dictators?

What is it with Democrats and leftists thirsting to kill children, inside the womb and out?

 

[AProudLefty]

What is it with Democrats and leftists thirsting to kill children, inside the womb and out?

What is it with Republican violent imagery and gaslighting?

 

[IBDaMann]

What I will say about Rubio is that, as of currently, he has so-far been doing a DAMN good job in his multiple roles in the Trump 2.0 Administration, ... So either he's now "reformed" from his past or he's still a crooked "Deep Stater" but is playing his part well.

Well put. I completely agree with your sentiments here. Don't forget, when you say Rubio is "reformed," you must always keep in mind both:

1) he was the "Amnesty Champion" for illegals, having much of his political equity resting on his promises to pull Reagan Amnesty 2.0
2) he was a "Never Trumper" who threw a hissie fit after Trump bitch-slapped everybody in the primaries; I was ashamed to have supported him.

Remember, Rubio was my guy at one point. I was singing his praises up and down the square. Finally, we had a bilingual candidate with the cojones to address the American public in Spanish. Fuck yeah! (I have a lot to say on this topic and it's not what you might think). I was willing to overlook his pursuit of amnesty, but then he pulled the "never-Trumper" shit while crying like a baby until someone changed his diaper. I was disappointed to no end.

All this is to say that when I keep an eye on Rubio, I'm inclined to be less forgiving, ... but I will always be fair, and your point hits home; Marco is knocking it out of the park, and wouldn't you know, not a single peep about amnesty, i.e. a definite improvement. So, my position is that we really do need to give him a fair shake and an opportunity to show us what he can do.

However, Vance doesn't have a rosy red past either.

I get it. Vance didn't leave me feeling betrayed. Nonetheless, I will give both a fair shot, and Tulsi as well. Kudos to Tulsi for quickly declassifying those key documents. Let's see what Bondi does.

I say this all in a manner that's less of a knock on Vance (or Rubio) and more-so towards maintaining a healthy skepticism of any political figure.

You are wise. I completely agree.

I like JD a lot too. He's done VERY well, both as a Senator and as a VP. He's a good communicator who frames his arguments quite well (in "plain language").

There are two bars for the VP, i.e. the low bar of simply not stabbing the President in the back, and the high bar of being able to step in for the President, should that be necessary. Vance hasn't sought to collect 30 Pence, so thus far, he has cleared the low bar; however, Vance has cleared the high bar as well, as far as I am concerned. He told the EU the same tough message that Trump would have told them, and Vance has the advantage of being a more effective communicator than Trump.

TLDR: I'm currently open to all three of them as a "successor" (and am equally skeptical of all three of them). ATM, I would lean towards Vance over the other two. Obviously, NONE of them are Trump or will ever be Trump. Enjoy it now!

We have Trump for just over three more years.

At this point in time, I fully expect Vance to get it too (of course, it's very early yet). I likewise wouldn't put a hissie-fit of any sort past Rubio.

I think Rubio has a better sense of direction now that he knows that the RINO course is not the way to go.

 

[IBDaMann]

What is it with Republican violent imagery and gaslighting?

What is it with Democrats and leftists not being intelligent enough to get a simple point?

 

[AProudLefty]

What is it with Democrats and leftists not being intelligent enough to get a simple point?

The point that you're lying about Democrats? Oh I got the point alright.

 

[IBDaMann]

Admit the truth, you MAGA are just pissed at Pence cause he didn’t “do the right thing,”

Admit the truth, you LOVE Pence because he stabbed Trump in the back ... and you HATE Trump.

I will admit the truth. Pence aided and abetted in the stealing of the 2020 election. He stabbed Trump in the back after all Trump had done for him, prompting many to cut "Pence" out of signs.

 

[archives]

Admit the truth, you LOVE Pence because he stabbed Trump in the back ... and you HATE Trump.

I will admit the truth. Pence aided and abetted in the stealing of the 2020 election. He stabbed Trump in the back after all Trump had done for him, prompting many to cut "Pence" out of signs.

Got it, he wouldn’t endorse the Big Lie, as I said, the only reason MAGA hate Pence was cause he didn’t do “the right thing”

Funny, for the four and half previous years MAGA loved the guy, Pence was Trump’s boy, kissed Donnie’s ass any chance he could, but in a few short hours they hated the same guy, only in MAGAland can one go from hero to evil in the blink of an eye

 

[IBDaMann]

Got it, he wouldn’t endorse the Big Lie,

It had nothing to do with "endorsing."