Have dems lost Florida forever?

So you're going to completely ignore the plethora of Hispanics in Miami-Dade County who have shifted HARD to the right in their voting as of recently?
Miami Dade is still a solidly Democrat voting region of the state.
 
It is hard to take you seriously when you make crazy predictions.

trump will get 51 or 52% of the vote in Florida, and 52 or 53% of the vote in Texas. In neither state will he have a double digit lead.

Republicans used to be able to count on at least 20 point leads in Texas, not it is closer to 2 point leads. Sooner or later, if this trend continues, they will lose Texas.... And then, oddly, in the next election they will lose Florida.


Biden got 64% of the 25 to 29 Florida voters, while trump got 55% of the over 65 Florida voters, so I do not believe you.


If that is true, then Florida is lost to Republicans.


That is extremely unlikely.
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What gives me confidence is the delusional thinking of Republicans. This is a close election, and if Republicans want to win, they need to treat it as such. Republicans are not going to have a 40 point lead. They are not even going to have a 1 point lead. They might squeak through the Electoral College with 48% of the popular vote.
 
It seems like yesterday when Florida was THE battleground state, along with Ohio. Of course everyone remembers the election of 2000 and today the democrats embrace the Bush/Cheney coalition into their statist bosom.

But, look at these numbers. Miami Dade County was once a democrat stronghold filled with all sorts of voting irregularities. Now, it is +5.5% R in voter registration. That is amazing. More amazing (well maybe not) is that the media doesn't report on this cataclysmic shift. Even Palm Beach is only +5.8D when in the past it was much higher.

So the leftists here don't start wetting their pants, I am not saying that this one data point means Trump is winning the election. Just pointing out FACTS with DATA. How in a short time, states that were once fierce battlegrounds are no longer in play; Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Missouri and now replaced with others.

I think you're going to be very surprised by the result in FL on Election Day and I think you're making an assumption that they're all voting for Trump.

I think that there will be a sizeable number of GOP voters who vote for Harris whereas you will see virtually no crossover Dem votes for Trump.
 
you mean blacks?
Blacks have rising life expectancies. Can trump voters say the same? No?

trump voters best correlate with worsening health outcomes. trump voters, and their extremely bad life decisions, are the reason overall life expectancies have been dropping over the last few years.

In a very real way, voting for trump is another one of their poor health decisions.
 
Nothing in your link shows how Republican women are voting. Just that they are. And when you add Dem/No Party Affiliation, Republicans are behind.

This is correct. Some exit polls have DMP with an 18 point lead over Scott with Non-Party Affiliated early voters. If that split carries to the top of the ticket, which there is no reason to believe it won't, Harris will win Florida and the Dems will gain a Senate seat.
 
Miami Dade is still a solidly Democrat voting region of the state.
??????? WTF are you even talking about??? You're WAYYYYY behind the times.....

Clinton (D) won Miami Dade by 30 points in 2016.
Gillum (D) won Miami Dade by 21 points in 2018.
Biden (D) won Miami Dade by 7 points in 2020.
DeSantis (R) won Miami Dade by 11 points in 2022.

Trump (R) will win Miami Dade by __?? points in 2024.

The "early voting tea leaves" currently show an R+6 lead in early voting in Miami Dade County, and R's normally outvote D's on election day, so it's looking like another double digit R wipeout of Miami Dade County.
 
???????

Clinton (D) won Miami Dade by 30 points in 2016.
Gillum (D) won Miami Dade by 21 points in 2018.
Biden (D) won Miami Dade by 7 points in 2020.
DeSantis (R) won Miami Dade by 11 points in 2022.

Trump (R) will win Miami Dade by __?? points in 2024.

The "early voting tea leaves" currently show an R+6 lead in early voting in Miami Dade County, and R's normally lead D's on election day results, so it's looking like another double digit R wipeout of Miami Dade County.

In ballots cast, perhaps, but you can't say that 100% of those GOP early votes were cast for Trump.

In fact, many of them may have been cast for Harris. Even if it's 5% that totally erases any chance Trump has of winning.

NPA early voters are breaking for Harris by 18%, according to exit polling.
 
Blacks have rising life expectancies. Can trump voters say the same? No?

trump voters best correlate with worsening health outcomes. trump voters, and their extremely bad life decisions, are the reason overall life expectancies have been dropping over the last few years.

In a very real way, voting for trump is another one of their poor health decisions.
hello, blacks are trump voters now. so are the youth.


they're leaving the democratic plantation, slaver.
 
I think you're going to be very surprised by the result in FL on Election Day and I think you're making an assumption that they're all voting for Trump.

I think that there will be a sizeable number of GOP voters who vote for Harris whereas you will see virtually no crossover Dem votes for Trump.
can you provide evidence for this?
 
This is correct. Some exit polls have DMP with an 18 point lead over Scott with Non-Party Affiliated early voters. If that split carries to the top of the ticket, which there is no reason to believe it won't, Harris will win Florida and the Dems will gain a Senate seat.
I think trump and Scott will probably barely win in Florida, but Harris and Mucarsel-Powell have real chances.

If Republicans cannot even win Florida, it is literally all over for this election cycle. Democrats do not need Florida, Republicans do.
 
What gives me confidence is the delusional thinking of Republicans. This is a close election, and if Republicans want to win, they need to treat it as such. Republicans are not going to have a 40 point lead. They are not even going to have a 1 point lead. They might squeak through the Electoral College with 48% of the popular vote.
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Brace yourself for the very real possibility that Trump actually WINS the so-called "popular vote" (which has no bearing on elections).
 
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Brace yourself for the very real possibility that Trump actually WINS the so-called "popular vote" (which has no bearing on elections).
You think the vote of the people has no bearing on the election? It is not an exact correlation, but it is a close correlation. The popular vote clearly causes the Electoral Vote.

trump needs to get within 2% of the popular vote, and then have every little detail exactly work out. If it were really a landslide situation, trump would not have to worry about stupid little things working out.
 
can you provide evidence for this?
The primaries for one...Haley was still getting like 20% of the primary vote after she dropped out.

Also, the early vote pattern for Conservatives doesn't match what it has been since 2018 -not 2020, 2018- after spending the last 6 years trashing early voting why would Trump voters suddenly start voting early in this election when they haven't in like 6 years?

My theory for increased early vote among Republicans is the anti-Trump vote. I believe that what has pushed Republicans above Dems in early voting in some states are Republicans enthusiastically coming out to vote against Trump. And I'd say women over 65 is where many of those GOP votes for Harris will come from.
 
I think trump and Scott will probably barely win in Florida, but Harris and Mucarsel-Powell have real chances.

If Republicans cannot even win Florida, it is literally all over for this election cycle. Democrats do not need Florida, Republicans do.
you have lost all the swing states and then some.
 
I think trump and Scott will probably barely win in Florida, but Harris and Mucarsel-Powell have real chances.

If Republicans cannot even win Florida, it is literally all over for this election cycle. Democrats do not need Florida, Republicans do.

It's gonna be close for sure, but I think people are just not factoring Dobbs into this and how pissed off women voters still are.

Why would a woman who voted for Democrats in 2022 bc of Dobbs suddenly vote for the guy responsible for it?
 
You think the vote of the people has no bearing on the election? It is not an exact correlation, but it is a close correlation. The popular vote clearly causes the Electoral Vote.

trump needs to get within 2% of the popular vote, and then have every little detail exactly work out. If it were really a landslide situation, trump would not have to worry about stupid little things working out.
Trump will lose the popular vote by 7-10 million votes.
 
In ballots cast, perhaps, but you can't say that 100% of those GOP early votes were cast for Trump.
Right, just like you can't say that 100% of those DEM early votes were cast for Harris.
In fact, many of them may have been cast for Harris.
Some definitely were, but not "many". And the same goes the other way too. You keep forgetting that part. You are also ignoring the fact that R's usually LOSE the early votes cast, but this time around, R's are actually WINNING it.
Even if it's 5% that totally erases any chance Trump has of winning.
No it doesn't, and you are still ignoring the fact that "5%" could easily be the other way around too (D's voting for R's).
NPA early voters are breaking for Harris by 18%, according to exit polling.
This conversation isn't about exit polling.
 
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