If there is only one way to deter, that way is to ban these weapons. Think it through.
Armed Citizen Stops Shooter at Indiana Mall: GOOD GUY WITH A GUN
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If there is only one way to deter, that way is to ban these weapons. Think it through.
Dutch Uncle
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True, but American history is one granting more freedoms, not removing them as you advocate. THAT'S the difference.
That was my obvious intention…
By the way, banning “these weapons” won’t do it either. There only one way to “deter” such events.
LOL...OK, so you said guns aren't a deterrent, but then you said there's only one way "to deter"...you meant shoot someone with a gun, right?
To effectively deter a mass shooting, you believe there should be a threat to a mass shooter's life, right? Isn't that what you meant by "to deter"? And what threat and how is that threat carried out?
1. No argument from me that he's braver than all the Uvalde cops combined, but that is a bar so low it's resting on the floor. My cat can cross that bar.
2. Up until the moment he shot that guy, your "hero" was a bad guy with a gun because he brought a gun into a space he knew he wasn't allowed to bring it.
3. By killing the shooter instead of wounding him, the victims and their families don't get justice, we don't get a motivation so we can't prevent it from happening again.
So what happened in IN wasn't a good guy stopping a bad guy, it was two bad guys shooting.
Tell that to the three people who will be carried by six.
Sorry - was I the one who just removed the right to privacy, or was it your Nazi pals who did that?
What freedumb am I advocating the removal of? I'm not the one who wants to end marriage equality, interracial marriage, and the right to contraception.
You need to check your notes.
Yeah, banning ALL firearms.
Dutch Uncle
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Notice that most of the wackadoodles want to go out by suicide or suicide-by-cop. The only way to deter a nutjob is to make it harder to attack.
One of Murphy's Laws of Combat is "the harder you make it for them to get in, the harder it is for you to get out". Living with a bunker mentality is not living IMHO. Better to just improve mental healthcare and routine testing. Ramos needed help a long time before he became a mass murderer/suicide. Why didn't he get it?
Same for all the other nutjobs who committed mass murder.
Ban all guns.
Dutch Uncle
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Are you 100% sure about that? Especially now, given the fact that cops lie all the fucking time about mass shootings?
It's copaganda that mass shooters want to commit suicide or be killed by a cop...that's not confirmed by anything, not even the manifestos left behind by some of these clowns.
We don't know if many of these mass shooters wanted to be taken alive or not because the cops shut all that shit down when they bullshit to the press.
I personally do not believe that.
I think almost every single mass shooter believes they are doing the work of God and that they will be able to stroll right on by the cops after without being touched.
I haven't seen any indication from any of these people that they are suicidal. And homicidal =/= suicidal.
Committing a mass shooting isn't an indicator of suicidal thoughts or depression...quite the opposite. Most mass shooters aren't depressed, they're just entitled.
Happens every now and then, but then again, a broken clock is right twice a day, and even here it came after three people were killed, five shot
Buffalo proved it doesn't work, Uvalde even more, Highland Park how it couldn't, and it is comical how gun huggers see themselves as Clint Eastwood when Barney Fife is more realistic
...by taking away the ability to access firearms.
But the problem is that precogs and Dr. Charles Xavier don't exist since they are fictional, so we don't know who is going to decide to be a bad guy with a gun at any given time.
So since we can't know that, then the logical solution would be to prevent those weapons from falling into anyone's hands since anyone can just be a mass shooter at any time.
Fear of getting shot by a gun, which happens to hundreds of thousands of people every year.
Seems like a pretty justifiable fear to me, but then again, I'm one a mass shooter would target because I'm Jewish, and you aren't because you're a white guy.
So we don't have the same sensitivity to this because you aren't a target and the fear is all hypothetical with you, but very real for me.
tell us how that would work
Also, the "hero" was a bad guy with a gun because he brought a gun into a space where they weren't allowed.
Dutch Uncle
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Wow. Your fear is well over the line of sanity. Sad.
How many of those "hundreds of thousands" were white males?