AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Are you saying that this girl is not well mannered?
Justices rule for student in ‘cursing cheerleader’ case
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Drummie123
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But first, we have to stop bringing in or allowing in those who have no reason to abide by our moral code.
Then, we'd have to mount a campaign to popularize the code, once it has been agreed upon.
Use the Biblical guidelines, but in modern language.
Then call it something clever or cute or wild.
Cuz if we don't, we will only continue racing along the highway to hell.
AC/DC - Highway to Hell (Official Video)
Look at how easily we accept a set of values which glamorizes driving on the "Highway To Hell"!!!
It was tolerated before we were able to see what would result from that drive.
But now that we do see the harm to America which is announced every night on the evening news, these lyrics no longer seem like harmless or inconsequential acts of rebellion, does it?
"Highway To Hell"
Living easy, living free
Season ticket on a one-way ride
Asking nothing, leave me be
Taking everything in my stride
Don't need reason, don't need rhyme
Ain't nothing I would rather do
Going down, party time
My friends are gonna be there too
I'm on the highway to hell
On the highway to hell
Highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell
No stop signs, speed limit
Nobody's gonna slow me down
Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Nobody's gonna mess me around
Hey Satan, paid my dues
Playing in a rocking band
Hey mama, look at me
I'm on my way to the promised land, whoo!
I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
Don't stop me
I'm on the highway to hell
On the highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell
On the highway
Yeah, highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
Highway to hell
And I'm going down
All the way
Whoa!
I'm on the highway to hell
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Teenagers have been cussing for many years. Thomas Jefferson complained about students wandering campus wearing pistols and gambling.
We don't want a government that can restrict our free speech and the Supreme Court made the correct decision upholding conservative principles.
Drummie123
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I will ask you to read the thread in reverse order to understand where the discussion is now so I won't have to repeat what has already been said.
Drummie123
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She is not well mannered in this regard, but that is a subjective standard.
Most of America sees nothing wrong with what she said or did.
And that failure to recognize her actions as a symptom of a problem that allows Americas to become sicker and uglier, gives us a false luxury of blissful ignorance as we keep unwittingly stepping on the gas and hurtling faster and faster down the highway to hell toward our collective doom, where none of US will have any liberties.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
In other words, you are saying that people MUST be perfect?
Drummie123
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Not at all.
I'm saying all of American society should adopt a code of ethics and a set of values which we would internalize to keep us from unwittingly contributing to our own demise.
Same principle as not discriminating against minorities, but expanded to make all of us do things of our own accord, which AT LEAST don't make America sicker.
And the set of values we have now are only making us sicker and sicker.
On the other hand, the Bible's principals have been in use for thousands of years.
A revival of those standards but without it being a religion or being called a religion, is what we need to agree on.
And there's a coincidence that as America grew less charming and kind spirited, so did the movement to eliminate Christianity from our schools and our daily lives, become more prevalent.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
But you do still support the First Amendment, right?
Drummie123
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Only among a society which is currently or is committed to eventually becoming a more moral or Christian society. Otherwiise, the same forces and ideas which sent us down this pathway to doom will just keep making us put the pedal to the metal.
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AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Only among a society which is currently or is committed to eventually becoming a more moral or Christian society.
So that leaves the Muslims and Jews out?
Sorry, I don’t want our laws or anything else based on the morals of the Bible. Yahweh killed young children for mocking a bald man, approved of dashing children’s heads upon the rocks, ordered genocide of the Caaninites and made a man king who murdered his commanding officer so he could fornicate with his wife.
viva the first amendment
Drummie123
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Judeo-Christian principles don't oppose Christian principles.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Judaism doesn't recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
Drummie123
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We shouldn't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
We should use what obviously works and disregard what doesn't in order to adopt a set of values which will prevent our doing things that most everyone agrees is/are killing our society.
We CAN'T continue this way we are going.
Drummie123
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That's unimportant in the context of saving America from plunging into the abyss.
We are able to all mostly agree that bashing Gays is bad and that lynching Blacks is bad.
That may be in accord with or in opposition to some religion's belief system, I don't know. But we can all adopt the principle of NOT bashing Gays or lynching Blacks without our all being expected or required to join that religion or adopt that religion's belief system.
Sorry, you are welcome to follow your Bible. I want nothing to do with it and the country’s governance. I am quite moral without it.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
We already have churches all over the USA.
Drummie123
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If we were to create a list of moral principles that most Americans would agree to try to follow in order to live more peacefully and stop barreling down the Highway to Hell at 100 mph, we would first have to recognize the current rules in effect in our society are non-existent, ineffective or are harmful to our continued existence.
So, because America was founded by Christians and we know that Christianity has flourished and prevailed or survived thousands of years with the same rules it always has, lets shop for our proposed new set or principles from what we know has worked, so we won't create something that is bound to fail because it hasn't stood the test of time.
The Ten Commandments have stood the test of time.
We aren't becoming Christians with this exercise, we are crafting a set of standards that will work for the most of us and borrowing proven ideas from the Bible to consider in populating our list of guidelines we all might can live by, for the benefit of us all.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-versions/
Exodus Ch 20:1-17
The Ten Commandments (plus)
1 Then God gave the people all these instructions :
2 “I am the LORD your God, who rescued you from the land of Egypt, the place of your slavery.
3 “You must not have any other god but me.
4 “You must not make for yourself an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the sea.
5 You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods. I lay the sins of the parents upon their children; the entire family is affected—even children in the third and fourth generations of those who reject me.
6 But I lavish unfailing love for a thousand generations on those who love me and obey my commands.
7 “You must not misuse the name of the LORD your God. The LORD will not let you go unpunished if you misuse his name.
8 “Remember to observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
9 You have six days each week for your ordinary work,
10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath day of rest dedicated to the LORD your God. On that day no one in your household may do any work. This includes you, your sons and daughters, your male and female servants, your livestock, and any foreigners living among you.
11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens, the earth, the sea, and everything in them; but on the seventh day he rested. That is why the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and set it apart as holy.
12 “Honor your father and mother. Then you will live a long, full life in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
13 “You must not murder.
14 “You must not commit adultery.
15 “You must not steal.
16 “You must not testify falsely against your neighbor.
17 “You must not covet your neighbor’s house. You must not covet your neighbor’s wife, male or female servant, ox or donkey, or anything else that belongs to your neighbor.”
https://www.biblestudytools.com/nlt/exodus/20.html
https://www.biblestudytools.com/nlt/
From the 17 verses, first pick out the ones which you feel MUST be included.
Next, pick out the ones which you feel MUST be omitted.
So, because America was founded by Christians and we know that Christianity has flourished and prevailed or survived thousands of years with the same rules it always has, lets shop for our proposed new set or principles from what we know has worked, so we won't create something that is bound to fail because it hasn't stood the test of time.
The Ten Commandments have stood the test of time.
We aren't becoming Christians with this exercise, we are crafting a set of standards that will work for the most of us and borrowing proven ideas from the Bible to consider in populating our list of guidelines we all might can live by, for the benefit of us all.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-versions/
Exodus Ch 20:1-17
The Ten Commandments (plus)
1 Then God gave the people all these instructions :
2 “I am the LORD your God, who rescued you from the land of Egypt, the place of your slavery.
3 “You must not have any other god but me.
4 “You must not make for yourself an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the sea.
5 You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods. I lay the sins of the parents upon their children; the entire family is affected—even children in the third and fourth generations of those who reject me.
6 But I lavish unfailing love for a thousand generations on those who love me and obey my commands.
7 “You must not misuse the name of the LORD your God. The LORD will not let you go unpunished if you misuse his name.
8 “Remember to observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
9 You have six days each week for your ordinary work,
10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath day of rest dedicated to the LORD your God. On that day no one in your household may do any work. This includes you, your sons and daughters, your male and female servants, your livestock, and any foreigners living among you.
11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens, the earth, the sea, and everything in them; but on the seventh day he rested. That is why the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and set it apart as holy.
12 “Honor your father and mother. Then you will live a long, full life in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
13 “You must not murder.
14 “You must not commit adultery.
15 “You must not steal.
16 “You must not testify falsely against your neighbor.
17 “You must not covet your neighbor’s house. You must not covet your neighbor’s wife, male or female servant, ox or donkey, or anything else that belongs to your neighbor.”
https://www.biblestudytools.com/nlt/exodus/20.html
https://www.biblestudytools.com/nlt/
From the 17 verses, first pick out the ones which you feel MUST be included.
Next, pick out the ones which you feel MUST be omitted.
Drummie123
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And yet here we are on the highway to hell.
We need to create a set of guidelines that most all of us can embrace.
We will not replace religions, we would offer something different. A set of guidelines that everyone can agree on and embrace.
We will agree on adopting ideas which have been proven to work and omit those principles which don't.