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I think it's way too early to say we fucked up. We're barely half way through the pandemic and you're drawing solid conclusions already?

We fucked up, we should have done what is always done, seclude those who are mostly likely to die and everyone else gets on with getting the work that needs to be done done.

But we cant manage that anymore Sport....Victim Culture has rotted us out to the core.
 
We fucked up, we should have done what is always done, seclude those who are mostly likely to die and everyone else gets on with getting the work that needs to be done done.

But we cant manage that anymore Sport....Victim Culture has rotted us out to the core.

The first thing you do is isolate...like with a travel ban from a country where the virus is hot? You know what I mean? We did that.
 
The first thing you do is isolate...like with a travel ban from a country where the virus is hot? You know what I mean? We did that.

We shut down almost the entire economy, we shut down the schools, we shut down most of the health care system for a bug that has the death rate of the seasonal flu.

We fucked up.
 
It's too early to know that.

Nope.

We looked at what the Chinese did and what they said we had to do and like the cowards that we are now we complied.....the problem with that is that the Chinese had let this bug run around Wuhan without telling the people what was going on for three months....yes they had a huge problem at that point, but their solution to ignoring this bug for three months never should have been our solution to a whole different slate of circumstances.
 
It's too early to know that.

The severity of COVID-19 — and the viral loads those infected carry — may be fading.

Researchers at Wayne State University say that viral loads, which is the amount of the virus in a patient’s system, continue to drop, which could explain why the death rate is falling.

“Dr. Said El Zein and his team analyzed viral loads of SARS-CoV-2, the virus causing COVID-19, coming from patient nasal swabs over two months,” Study Finds reported on Sunday. “From April 4 to June 5, a downward trend in the amount of virus detected in patients at Detroit Medical Center was discovered.”

To estimate the viral loads coming from nasopharyngeal swabs, study authors use a cycle threshold (Ct) value that comes from the tests on these samples. A higher Ct means a sample has less SARS-CoV-2 in it. Their scale rates a high viral load [VL] as a Ct of 25 and under, intermediate loads as a Ct between 26-36, and low viral loads as a Ct over 37.

During the week of April 4, just under half (49%) of COVID-19 patients had an intermediate viral load (VL). Low and high VL counts both came in at 25.5 percent of the patient samples.

By the fifth week of the study, El Zein said, 70 percent of positive COVID-19 swabs fell into the low VL category. That, in turn, coincided with a decrease in patient deaths, the doctor said.

“Researchers say 45 percent of patients in the high VL group died from the virus. This number falls to 32 percent for COVID-19 patients with intermediate loads and 14 percent for the low VL group,” Study Finds reported.

There have been other reports about “viral loads.” The most used test to determine if someone has COVID-19, known as a PCR test, is either positive or negative, that’s it. But the test does not identify the viral load — the greater the amount of virus, the more likely it is that the patient is contagious or may get severely ill.

“In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus,” The failing New York Times admitted in August after conducting a review of data.

Apoorva Mandavilli, the reporter who wrote the piece, said on Twitter: “NEW: All these months into the pandemic, we may have been testing the wrong way. Data from some state labs suggest up to 90% (!!) of people who get a positive result are no longer contagious and don’t need to isolate.”

It turns out that the PCR, that old reliable workhorse, is both too slow and too sensitive for what we need. And it all hinges on a metric called the ‘cycle threshold,’” she wrote in another post.

The current PCR test analyzes genetic matter from the virus using 37 or 40 cycles, but health experts say that is too high because it detects even small amounts of the virus that pose no risk of contagion.

“Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left
,” Dr. Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, told the paper.


https://www.dailywire.com/news/viral-loads-in-covid-19-infected-patients-drop-along-with-death-rate-study-finds?%3
 
Nope.

We looked at what the Chinese did and what they said we had to do and like the cowards that we are now we complied.....the problem with that is that the Chinese had let this bug run around Wuhan without telling the people what was going on for three months....yes they had a huge problem at that point, but their solution to ignoring this bug for three months never should have been our solution to a whole different slate of circumstances.

Yep, too early to know. Pandemics run 18-24 months. Best case scenario we're about half-way through. It is way too early to draw any conclusions.
 
Yep, too early to know. Pandemics run 18-24 months. Best case scenario we're about half-way through. It is way too early to draw any conclusions.

"We dont know exactly how this will turn out" does not make you right...it is not even an argument....we placed a stupid bet....Yes it might still pay off (if for instance if this bug takes years off of the life of people that we currently think are fine) ....but the chances that it will are near zero.
 
"We dont know exactly how this will turn out" does not make you right...it is not even an argument....we placed a stupid bet....Yes it might still pay off (if for instance if this bug takes years off of the life of people that we currently think are fine) ....but the chances that it will are near zero.

What point are you trying to make?
 
What point are you trying to make?

Based upon everything that we know so far we have been and continue to be very dim people re this pandemic.

And that America deserves to die....performance always did matter....we were supposed to understand that far.
 
Based upon everything that we know so far we have been and continue to be very dim people re this pandemic.

And that America deserves to die....performance always did matter....we were supposed to understand that far.

Still not getting your point...unless you're stating that you're a scared, jibbering marxist soy boi.
 
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