Young doctors being asked to play God

[Legion]

Why?

Because the whole thing is unverified.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Part of the Job. Make the Call.

Only for a combat medic or doctor. Lawyers would be suing the ass off a hospital if this were just routine.

 

[Legion]

Lawyers would be suing the ass off a hospital if this were just routine.

Lawyers would be suing the ass off a hospital if this were true.

I call bullshit.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Because the whole thing is unverified.

Time will tell. New Orleans is seeing a leap in cases. Let's see if beta males figure out the math of "X cases needing ventilators - Y ventilators = Z cases without ventilators".

 

[Dutch Uncle]

they have thought. they want to kill billions of people.

Who is they? Why do "they" want to kill billions of people? You know most of those people live in Third World Shitholes, right? Is it Trump you are talking about?

 

[countryboy]

It's New York City in the Queens area. Obviously you've never been...lucky you!

You're a complete retard if you think Spanish-language outlets aren't covering the coronavirus. Are you seriously that fucking stupid? In New York City, you probably have just about every other language covered as well. What, illegal immigrants are too stupid to follow the news? Fucking liberals are the biggest bigots in the fucking world. I bet you believe black people are too stupid to get ID as well. Amirite?

 

[MAGA MAN]

You just revealed you aren't an American; the US doesn't have a Universal Healthcare system. Are you a Canuck? A Brit? Some other monarchist like your buddy, the Thai cum cleaner?

You must be having a bad day tossing out sexual insults like your fellow lib Domer.

I also see that your reading comprehension hasn't improved.

 

[CFM]

What did you think would happen once GovCo became the sole health care provider? Look at any DMV office for a good example...

Clearly, DU doesn't understand that triage in this type situation isn't the same as how things would be done otherwise.

 

[CFM]

Only for a combat medic or doctor. Lawyers would be suing the ass off a hospital if this were just routine.

^^^^Clearly does not understand the concept of triage in this type of situation.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You must be having a bad day tossing out sexual insults like your fellow lib Domer.

I also see that your reading comprehension hasn't improved.

Your defense of the Brit cocksucker is noted as well as another lie from you. Remember when you claimed you don't lie? You were lying.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Clearly, DU doesn't understand that triage in this type situation isn't the same as how things would be done otherwise.

^^^^Clearly does not understand the concept of triage in this type of situation.

Feel free to 'splain it to me, Lucy. I doubt you can. Intellectually explaining the process is a lot tougher than slinging insults.

 

[Legion]

Time will tell.

No, time won't tell if that tale was concocted out of whole cloth by a journalist who wasn't fact-checked.

 

[Legion]

You're a complete retard if you think Spanish-language outlets aren't covering the coronavirus. Are you seriously that fucking stupid? In New York City, you probably have just about every other language covered as well. What, illegal immigrants are too stupid to follow the news? Fucking liberals are the biggest bigots in the fucking world. I bet you believe black people are too stupid to get ID as well. Amirite?

This whole story is unsupported by any evidence whatsoever. For all anyone knows, there was no "doctor" or "patient" and the "journalist" made the whole tale up.

 

[CFM]

Feel free to 'splain it to me, Lucy. I doubt you can. Intellectually explaining the process is a lot tougher than slinging insults.

If you understood, you wouldn't need an explanation.

You making an excuse proves you know nothing about it.

 

[Jack]

Ever hear of a "certificate of need"? You need to get permission from GovCo to build a hospital or even purchase certain equipment. A doctor or group of doctors has to prove to the government that these things are needed. The profit motive that allows competition to increase supply and drive costs down isn't allowed. You and your libs friends wanted GovCo control, and you got it.

I believe you have gone into Fantasy Land.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

For those who never served, or like Trump, were cowardly draft-dodgers, here is information on combat triage:

https://wikem.org/wiki/Combat_triage
Black
Also EXPECTANT

In these patients, survival would be highly unlikely
If able, they should receive comfort measures, pain medications
Injuries may include penetrating or blunt head wounds and those with absent radial pulses

Spoiler

https://www.cs.amedd.army.mil/borde...px?docid=744757d4-660d-432b-9286-9565c70f7e2b
Triage Categories
Triage is performed at each echelon of care. Traditional
categories of triage are immediate, delayed, minimal, and
expectant....

... Expectant: This group has injuries that overwhelm current
medical resources at the expense of treating salvageable
patients....

.... Expectant area.
Ideally, expectant casualties should be kept in an area away
from all other treatment areas. The team leader can be anyone
capable of giving parenteral pain medications and monitoring
the patients. The patient should be kept comfortable. After all
other patients have been treated, a retriage of these patients
should be done and treatment instituted if appropriate.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

If you understood, you wouldn't need an explanation.

You making an excuse proves you know nothing about it.

I knew you didn't have a fucking clue so I posted one for you. Fat retards in camo running around the woods with paint guns doesn't make you a soldier.

 

[Jack]

Yeah...if two people came in and only one ventilator was available.

But this was a guy ON A VENTILATOR...a guy who had been on it BEFORE coming into hospital.

Do you think it appropriate to just take it from him...and give it to someone else?

And do you think it appropriate to give the power to do that to a doctor...with no restrictions?

What if the second patient is the doctor's brother?

This is a very nebulous area, Jack. Time for the powers that be...to do some serious thinking.

Baptist Hospital on Napoleon Avenue. Hurricane Katrina. Surrounded by a sea of water. No water. No food. Back up Generators under water. ... which Patients are gently put out of their Sufferings?

 

[CFM]

For those who never served, or like Trump, were cowardly draft-dodgers, here is information on combat triage:

https://wikem.org/wiki/Combat_triage
Black
Also EXPECTANT

In these patients, survival would be highly unlikely
If able, they should receive comfort measures, pain medications
Injuries may include penetrating or blunt head wounds and those with absent radial pulses

Spoiler

https://www.cs.amedd.army.mil/borde...px?docid=744757d4-660d-432b-9286-9565c70f7e2b
Triage Categories
Triage is performed at each echelon of care. Traditional
categories of triage are immediate, delayed, minimal, and
expectant....

... Expectant: This group has injuries that overwhelm current
medical resources at the expense of treating salvageable
patients....

.... Expectant area.
Ideally, expectant casualties should be kept in an area away
from all other treatment areas. The team leader can be anyone
capable of giving parenteral pain medications and monitoring
the patients. The patient should be kept comfortable. After all
other patients have been treated, a retriage of these patients
should be done and treatment instituted if appropriate.

Which means you're making decisions that you would otherwise not make or have to make if the level of resources was capable of handling the incident. Sounds to me like this doctor isn't cut out to handle the job unless there's smooth waters. Perhaps she should change professions.

 

[CFM]

I knew you didn't have a fucking clue so I posted one for you. Fat retards in camo running around the woods with paint guns doesn't make you a soldier.

Don't make the mistake of thinking what you do. It's a sign of arrogance.

Wannabes like you couldn't handle such situations. You'd shit your pants and become a liability.