Death by Corona numbers explode to 61

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Loving91390 said:
And not a peep out of you liberals about deaths from H1N1 under Obambam
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During H1N1:

The economy didn't shut down
The DJIA didn't take a nose dive
3.5M people didn't lose their jobs and their employer-provided health care in a week
No trillion-dollar pandemic emergency stimulus
No social distancing

South Korea got its first COVID case the same day we did, yet only 158 South Koreans died, while you all are spinning 200K dead Americans as a success.
 
Flash said:
All the posters who see through the constant postings of numbers of past outbreaks as nothing but diverting from current issues by posters who are afraid current health and economic problems might affect President Trump's reelection and need to divert attention to irrelevant matters.
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Credit where credit's due, here.

One question: Might Conservatives have also recently done the same thing on other subjects?
 
Hello Flash,

Flash said:
Do you think those people are still going out in public and disregarding any precautions if they don't see it as a risk?
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Most of them are practicing social distancing for their body, mental distancing from the truth.

Flash said:
It seems somewhat irrelevant whether it is worse or less risky than any previous outbreaks other than as a diversion to the health and economic problems in an election year even if there was nothing more President Trump could have done.
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It is a primary threat to the security of the nation, so the president and his approval polling are automatically married to it. Since they can't cause the president to be seen in a better light, it has become imperative of them to cast the virus in a diminished importance.

Basically, DT and his minions are not comfortable with the news cycle being about something other than what DT decides it should be. They can't accept it as is, and are always disputing what the mainstream media says because they have placed the credibility of their support on mocking the main stream news.
 
LV426 said:
During H1N1:

The economy didn't shut down
The DJIA didn't take a nose dive
3.5M people didn't lose their jobs and their employer-provided health care in a week
No trillion-dollar pandemic emergency stimulus
No social distancing

South Korea got its first COVID case the same day we did, yet only 158 South Koreans died, while you all are spinning 200K dead Americans as a success.
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And no one would have even brought it up under Obambam .... not a peep
 
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed, but that's his pattern of behavior. What surprised me is that he put Pence in charge and that Pence has been doing a great job resolving the problems.

Sure, Trump rambles around a lot but it's Pence who doing the work as leader of the nation.
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We stopped watching Pence's updates because DT has been turning them into a campaign rally. We are tired of the self aggrandizement followed by the sucking up. We would rather watch Yamiche report her version.
 
Flash said:
Is there a need to compare it to the the past outbreaks? If so, we don't need it repeated endlessly since I haven't seen anybody challenge the numbers. It doesn't make the current outbreak any less serious for our current health.

Why is it only Trump supporters who think it is important to endlessly give us previous numbers?
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They’re amongst the few that try and keep it in perspective.
 
Darth Omar said:
They’re amongst the few that try and keep it in perspective.
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The way Brad* did with H1N1, lol?

Brad* said:
I have heard that the N1H1 flu is not really any worse than a regular flu.... Infact some reputable sources have told me its not as bad as a regular flu.
Why the hype? What is it about this flu that sets it apart from other flu's?
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Brad* said:
ITs discusting what they are doing with this "epidemic"!
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Here is some much needed perspective:

By the World Health Organization's official tally, the flu pandemic of 2009-10 killed 18,449 people around the world. Those are deaths of people who had laboratory-confirmed cases of the so-called swine flu.

But a fresh analysis says the real toll was 10 times higher — up to 203,000 deaths. And maybe it was twice that, if you count people who died of things like heart attacks precipitated by the flu.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-10-times-more-deadly-than-previously-thought
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Flu death tolls can vary, greatly, depending on how the deaths are categorized.

Seems like someone has said that.
 
Hello archives,

archives said:
Cause that was Trump's deflection in January, February, and up until mid March, actually, Trump, Fox, and certainly all the demagogues, no worse than the common flu, is kinda funny how Trumpkins here are still sticking to it

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My, they can't backpedal fast enough.

Talk about changing their tune...

They went from 'The Wall' to 'We Shall Overcome.'
 
Darth Omar said:
Here is some much needed perspective:

By the World Health Organization's official tally, the flu pandemic of 2009-10 killed 18,449 people around the world. Those are deaths of people who had laboratory-confirmed cases of the so-called swine flu.

But a fresh analysis says the real toll was 10 times higher — up to 203,000 deaths. And maybe it was twice that, if you count people who died of things like heart attacks precipitated by the flu.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-10-times-more-deadly-than-previously-thought
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Flu death tolls can vary, greatly, depending on how the deaths are categorized.

Seems like someone has said that.
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So we can expect massive amounts of dead people because of COVID's infection and transmission rate.

Sorry - what perspective does this add?
 
Truth Detector said:
Why is it important for Trump haters to ignore past history?
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I haven't seen any of them challenge past history. And how does past history help us deal or evaluate the current problems?

That there were more cases and deaths under past outbreaks does not make me any less or more careful today.

You are like gunno who keeps telling us older white Americans are declining as a percentage of the population. It is something we already know and not really relevant to anything unless we are discussing future demographic patterns.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,



We stopped watching Pence's updates because DT has been turning them into a campaign rally. We are tired of the self aggrandizement followed by the sucking up. We would rather watch Yamiche report her version.
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Agreed on Trump's ramblings. A good reason to DVR it then FF through his part...or just catch the synopsis later. :)
 
archives said:
Cause that was Trump's deflection in January, February, and up until mid March, actually, Trump, Fox, and certainly all the demagogues, no worse than the common flu, is kinda funny how Trumpkins here are still sticking to it
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That was my conclusion but I was hoping there was a more intelligent less partisan explanation.
 
Flash said:
I haven't seen any of them challenge past history. And how does past history help us deal or evaluate the current problems?
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Why do you keep asking the same ANSWERED question over and over again dimwit? Can't remember what was said three posts back?

It is to put the current media fed HYSTERIA into perspective. :rolleyes:

Flash said:
That there were more cases and deaths under past outbreaks does not make me any less or more careful today.
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Strawman alert! Who is telling anyone to be less careful? DUH!

Flash said:
You are like gunno who keeps telling us older white Americans are declining as a percentage of the population. It is something we already know and not really relevant to anything unless we are discussing future demographic patterns.
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You are like guAno, bloviating incoherently and being incapable of comprehending the obvious. :rolleyes:
 
Truth Detector said:
STFU, seriously. Trump is not at risk for re-election. It's the loony left and the PHONY media who are hopeful thousands more will die as they try to pin the blame on Trump.

It is despicable; but that pretty much defines the left and the PHONY media these days.
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Paranoia. If there is a problem immediately blame the media and call it a hoax.
 
Flash said:
That was my conclusion but I was hoping there was a more intelligent less partisan explanation.
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Why does Trump need to deflect? Did he cause this calamity? Why does the media need to make it seem like Trump isn't doing far more than his predecessors did in far less time when they confronted similar epidemics? Why do leftist have to lie and take Fauci's comments out of context to promote a false narrative intended to instill fear in the American people?
 
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