"Florida Gets Welfare From New York"

[MAGA MAN]

"New York doesn’t add to Florida’s bills—we pay them. In 2017 Florida took nearly $46 billion more from the federal government than it contributed, making it the No. 2 “grantee” state in the nation. New York is the No. 1 “donor” state. In 2017 we gave the federal government $36 billion more than we got back. The curtailment of SALT deductibility takes this gross imbalance and supercharges it, costing New Yorkers another $14 billion each year."

"But SALT was never about economics. It was about politics. Its explicit purpose was to weaponize the federal tax system against predominantly Democratic states. The 12 states most hurt by the limitations on deductibility all voted against President Trump in 2016."

1. Florida has a lot of retirees- many from NY. People leave the high real estate tax states when they retire because they can't afford the tax bills anymore. So the Social Security checks (Federal) are going to them.
2. For years high real estate tax states have been paying less in Federal taxes than low real estate tax states. In effect, "not paying their fair share". Now they can no longer avoid federal taxation.

 

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There are 5 not 12 military bases in NY sport. Also NY has 1 of 20 drone control bases in the US. Finally I said liberal logic not that I agreed. You do understand what liberal logic is?

Wrong, you googled incorrectly, could that be error of conservative deduction?

http://www.militarybases.us/bases-in-the-state-of-new-york/

 

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1. Florida has a lot of retirees- many from NY. People leave the high real estate tax states when they retire because they can't afford the tax bills anymore. So the Social Security checks (Federal) are going to them.
2. For years high real estate tax states have been paying less in Federal taxes than low real estate tax states. In effect, "not paying their fair share". Now they can no longer avoid federal taxation.

The first one is funny, seen it twice, so now your telling us Florida gets more of the Federal dime because they have a lot of people collecting SS? So how does that explain the rest of the Red States cashing in on the Blue States dime? Inane argument

Those States you claim have been paying less is wrong, they have paid more even with the SALT deduction, as the point of the topic, they have been subsidizing Red States for decades, those not paying their fair share are those Red States including Florida living off what States as NY pays

 

[rjhenn]

This is a moronic argument. In order for stupidity like this to have merit, one must presume that just because Florida went to a Republican, it must be all RED. But it is not. The biggest shit holes in Florida where all this presumed NY City taxes are going are Democratically controlled BLUE shit holes.

In addition, this argument is moronic simply for the fact that NO one can know where all the Federal taxes New Yorkers are paying goes. That is hyperbolic bullshit.

The usual moronic nonsense from truth Deflector. Nobody said anything about New York City taxes. The entire discussion is about federal taxes paid by states, as a whole. As usual, he's not paying the slightest bit of attention to what's really going on.

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Nice try dumb ass blue states don't subsidize anything. You're whining that red states get a larger slice if the government pie. Hate to tell you but the majority of red states have more to do with national security. Keep crying I love it.

Bullshit argument, the Red States "have more to do with national security," what the hell does a State as West Virginia or Mississippi to name a couple have to do with "national security?" Hell, we pay to subsidize flood insurance in the State of Florida, get lost with that "have more to do with national security" BS

 

[rjhenn]

Wait a minute, because New York pays more, a lot more, as do most of the Blue States, in Federal tax than gets returned while southern Red States enjoy the exact opposite relationship doesn't mean that the money the Blue States is paying in excess isn't going to Red States? Where the hell is it going then?

And for once, "truthie" didn't return with a corny copy and paste video, but given the meaning behind the song, it kinda contradicts nearly everything "truthie" bloviates

Reality usually contradicts whatever Truth Deflector posts.

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[Truth Detector]

The usual moronic nonsense from truth Deflector rjhenn.

True; but we are used to your moronic nonsense. It's actually expected anytime you emotionally erupt in the forum.

Nobody said anything about New York City taxes.

True; so far YOU are the only one. Everyone else is talking about NY State's Federal taxation. How stupid are you?

The entire discussion is about federal taxes paid by states, as a whole. As usual, he's not paying the slightest bit of attention to what's really going on.

You're too ignorant and lacking in the IQ department to comprehend how stupid you look.

 

[rjhenn]

Wrong again, New York State has twelve military installations to include Fort Drum and Hancock Field where currently a large percentage of ME drones are controlled. And according to conservative logic, only a person who believes in socialism would concur that the rich should pay more, how surprising of you to admit it

And why does it stand to reason that New York is rich? They've got no real natural resources, and their only real business is handling other people's money.

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[Truth Detector]

Bullshit argument, the Red States "have more to do with national security," what the hell does a State as West Virginia or Mississippi to name a couple have to do with "national security?" Hell, we pay to subsidize flood insurance in the State of Florida, get lost with that "have more to do with national security" BS

Low IQ buffoon thinks there are no BLUE shit holes in Red States requiring massive welfare payments.

 

[Truth Detector]

Reality usually contradicts whatever Truth Deflector low IQ leftists posts.

So true. More amusing, that dishonest low IQ morons on the left like you even think you are dealing in facts or reality.

 

[rjhenn]

Nice try dumb ass blue states don't subsidize anything. You're whining that red states get a larger slice if the government pie. Hate to tell you but the majority of red states have more to do with national security. Keep crying I love it.

Both of you need to learn the difference between tenant and tenet.

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[Eagle_Eye]

Wrong, you googled incorrectly, could that be error of conservative deduction?

http://www.militarybases.us/bases-in-the-state-of-new-york/

Sorry dumb ass you are including guard bases! I am talking regular military bases. You do know there is a difference?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Bullshit argument, the Red States "have more to do with national security," what the hell does a State as West Virginia or Mississippi to name a couple have to do with "national security?" Hell, we pay to subsidize flood insurance in the State of Florida, get lost with that "have more to do with national security" BS

Hey Einstein you do understand we are the United States which means we have a central government. One state does not pay other states the states pay the central government. So your whole premise is total bullshit.

 

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Low IQ buffoon thinks there are no BLUE shit holes in Red States requiring massive welfare payments.

There are 'shitholes" in every State, Red States has there share just as much as Blue States, that deflection is blown, but you can try again if you like, which with "truthie" means another corny copy and paste

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The panhandle of florida is filled with skin heads, nazis and rednecks, trumps "people"

what part do the senile semites live in?......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

There are 'shitholes" in every State, Red States has there share just as much as Blue States, that deflection is blown, but you can try again if you like, which with "truthie" means another corny copy and paste

if we didn't have shitholes, the demmycrats might try to move somewhere and make one.......

 

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Hey Einstein you do understand we are the United States which means we have a central government. One state does not pay other states the states pay the central government. So your whole premise is total bullshit.

Ah, let me see if I can explain it simple enough for even you to understand it

Blue States pay Federal income tax to the Federal Gov't. Blue States get less back from the Federal Gov't, a lot less, than they have paid to the Federal Gov't.

Red States pay Federal Income tax to the Federal Gov't, but unlike the Blue States, they also get more in return from that Federal Gov't than they paid in to the Federal Gov't

Now, lets see if you can figure it out, if Blue States gets less in return than they paid while the Red States gets more in return than they paid where do you think that additional money the Red States received came from?

 

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if we didn't have shitholes, the demmycrats might try to move somewhere and make one.......

Trust me, a lot of those Red States have been "shitholes" before anyone moved there

 

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Sorry dumb ass you are including guard bases! I am talking regular military bases. You do know there is a difference?

Fort Drum is a Guard base?

And the whole argument is weak, I've seen as excuses from more welfare to more natural disasters, if any of that explained the red state socialism it would apply to each of the red states receiving more than they paid and it doesn't come close

 

[rjhenn]

Hey Einstein you do understand we are the United States which means we have a central government. One state does not pay other states the states pay the central government. So your whole premise is total bullshit.

Oh ye of little understanding! The point is that blue states pay more to the central government than they get back, while red states get more back than they pay in.

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