"Florida Gets Welfare From New York"

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"New York doesn’t add to Florida’s bills—we pay them. In 2017 Florida took nearly $46 billion more from the federal government than it contributed, making it the No. 2 “grantee” state in the nation. New York is the No. 1 “donor” state. In 2017 we gave the federal government $36 billion more than we got back. The curtailment of SALT deductibility takes this gross imbalance and supercharges it, costing New Yorkers another $14 billion each year."

"But SALT was never about economics. It was about politics. Its explicit purpose was to weaponize the federal tax system against predominantly Democratic states. The 12 states most hurt by the limitations on deductibility all voted against President Trump in 2016."

"GOP purports to oppose policies of “redistribution” but President Trump and the federal government are the true redistributors of wealth—not from rich to poor, but from blue states to red states."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuomo-florida-gets-welfare-from-new-york-11554152628

He could have also added income redistribution from the middle class to the top, amazing how the same people now supposedly hate socialism are in fact some of the greatest proponents of income redistribution

It is Red State Socialism, fact, southern red states living off the blue states dime, yet they'll be the first to label another a "socialist" or "commie," the hypocrisy couldn't be deeper

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ate-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/














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and on the subject

democrats are pushing to let Peurto Rico become 2 senate seats, uhh, sorry I mean a state.

Rico gets 1.3 billion in food stamp money every year for a population that 44% of it's people live under the poverty level.
AND
they are bitching that the additional billion+ we gave them after the hurricane is gone, they need more

Who's bright idea was it to bring an island 2000 miles away onto our dole,
and who on Gods green earth would push to make them part of the US
 
Louisiana and West Virginia are great examples of Red States where rich Republicans make a killing off fossil fuel extraction and processing with the coal and petro-chemical industries, and thus claim to create lots of great jobs. But somehow, those jobs are not enough to create a vibrant middle class in either of those States. Both States are characterized by rampant poverty, shorter life average spans than the national average (due to widespread pollution from those industries,) and very high TAKE from the federal government. Louisiana gets HALF of the State budget from the Federal government.

Oh, but they wouldn't want to vote for socialism and wealth redistribution. That would kill freedom.

And we know what kind of freedom they create.

The kind that Janis Joplin sang about in Kris Kristofferson's song, Bobbie McGee:

"Freedom's just another word for nuthin left to lose."
 
Getin the ring said:
and on the subject

democrats are pushing to let Peurto Rico become 2 senate seats, uhh, sorry I mean a state.

Rico gets 1.3 billion in food stamp money every year for a population that 44% of it's people live under the poverty level.
AND
they are bitching that the additional billion+ we gave them after the hurricane is gone, they need more

Who's bright idea was it to bring an island 2000 miles away onto our dole,
and who on Gods green earth would push to make them part of the US
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First off, I know it is difficult for individuals as yourself to understand, but people living in PR are just as American as you are, or the people who live in DC who have less representation than the State of Wyoming half its size

Secondly, the topic is red states mooching off blue States, or to put it more precisely, red state socialism practiced by the same people that say they hate socialism

Try to keep up
 
archives said:
"New York doesn’t add to Florida’s bills—we pay them. In 2017 Florida took nearly $46 billion more from the federal government than it contributed, making it the No. 2 “grantee” state in the nation. New York is the No. 1 “donor” state. In 2017 we gave the federal government $36 billion more than we got back. The curtailment of SALT deductibility takes this gross imbalance and supercharges it, costing New Yorkers another $14 billion each year."

"But SALT was never about economics. It was about politics. Its explicit purpose was to weaponize the federal tax system against predominantly Democratic states. The 12 states most hurt by the limitations on deductibility all voted against President Trump in 2016."

"GOP purports to oppose policies of “redistribution” but President Trump and the federal government are the true redistributors of wealth—not from rich to poor, but from blue states to red states."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuomo-florida-gets-welfare-from-new-york-11554152628
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Ah yes, the Wall Street Journal. That bastion of liberal commie pinko socialism propaganda. </sarcasm> Great post, thanks.

Alaska is a perfect example of a state populated by "We don't want no stinkin' socialism in THIS state," yet the state is a net federal funds recipient. In addition, don't even THINK of touching an Alaskan's annual check from the PFD. That consists of money redistributed from the oil industry and given to each citizen. But they're not socialist, no siree bob. lol
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Ah yes, the Wall Street Journal. That bastion of liberal commie pinko socialism propaganda. </sarcasm> Great post, thanks.

Alaska is a perfect example of a state populated by "We don't want no stinkin' socialism in THIS state," yet the state is a net federal funds recipient. In addition, don't even THINK of touching an Alaskan's annual check from the PFD. That consists of money redistributed from the oil industry and given to each citizen. But they're not socialist, no siree bob. lol
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It really is. That article is just a letter from Coumo. A one side letter.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,

ThatOwlWoman said:
Ah yes, the Wall Street Journal. That bastion of liberal commie pinko socialism propaganda. </sarcasm> Great post, thanks.

Alaska is a perfect example of a state populated by "We don't want no stinkin' socialism in THIS state," yet the state is a net federal funds recipient. In addition, don't even THINK of touching an Alaskan's annual check from the PFD. That consists of money redistributed from the oil industry and given to each citizen. But they're not socialist, no siree bob. lol
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It has been noted that if Alaska were to end the annual free checks to every citizen of the State that the economy would be dealt a serious blow.
 
archives said:
"New York doesn’t add to Florida’s bills—we pay them. In 2017 Florida took nearly $46 billion more from the federal government than it contributed, making it the No. 2 “grantee” state in the nation. New York is the No. 1 “donor” state. In 2017 we gave the federal government $36 billion more than we got back. The curtailment of SALT deductibility takes this gross imbalance and supercharges it, costing New Yorkers another $14 billion each year."

"But SALT was never about economics. It was about politics. Its explicit purpose was to weaponize the federal tax system against predominantly Democratic states. The 12 states most hurt by the limitations on deductibility all voted against President Trump in 2016."

"GOP purports to oppose policies of “redistribution” but President Trump and the federal government are the true redistributors of wealth—not from rich to poor, but from blue states to red states."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuomo-florida-gets-welfare-from-new-york-11554152628

He could have also added income redistribution from the middle class to the top, amazing how the same people now supposedly hate socialism are in fact some of the greatest proponents of income redistribution

It is Red State Socialism, fact, southern red states living off the blue states dime, yet they'll be the first to label another a "socialist" or "commie," the hypocrisy couldn't be deeper

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ate-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/"
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This is a moronic argument. In order for stupidity like this to have merit, one must presume that just because Florida went to a Republican, it must be all RED. But it is not. The biggest shit holes in Florida where all this presumed NY City taxes are going are Democratically controlled BLUE shit holes.

In addition, this argument is moronic simply for the fact that NO one can know where all the Federal taxes New Yorkers are paying goes. That is hyperbolic bullshit.

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PoliTalker said:
Louisiana and West Virginia are great examples of Red States where rich Republicans make a killing off fossil fuel extraction and processing with the coal and petro-chemical industries, and thus claim to create lots of great jobs. But somehow, those jobs are not enough to create a vibrant middle class in either of those States. Both States are characterized by rampant poverty, shorter life average spans than the national average (due to widespread pollution from those industries,) and very high TAKE from the federal government. Louisiana gets HALF of the State budget from the Federal government.

Oh, but they wouldn't want to vote for socialism and wealth redistribution. That would kill freedom.

And we know what kind of freedom they create.

The kind that Janis Joplin sang about in Kris Kristofferson's song, Bobbie McGee:

"Freedom's just another word for nuthin left to lose."
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^^Still stuck on moron. :laugh:

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archives said:
First off, I know it is difficult for individuals as yourself to understand, but people living in PR are just as American as you are,
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How so? Are they American citizens at birth? You're a fucking moron snowflake.

archives said:
Secondly, the topic is red states mooching off blue States, or to put it more precisely, red state socialism practiced by the same people that say they hate socialism
Try to keep up
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Wrong; the topic is desperately flailing with a fabricated strawman only a low IQ moron like you could buy into.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Ah yes, the Wall Street Journal. That bastion of liberal commie pinko socialism propaganda. </sarcasm> Great post, thanks.
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They were QUOTING the stupidity bloviating from Cuomo you moron.

:smh:

ThatOwlWoman said:
Alaska is a perfect example of a state populated by "We don't want no stinkin' socialism in THIS state," yet the state is a net federal funds recipient. In addition, don't even THINK of touching an Alaskan's annual check from the PFD. That consists of money redistributed from the oil industry and given to each citizen. But they're not socialist, no siree bob. lol
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So all that Eskimo aid is going to Republicans asshat? STFU, seriously.
 
I don't doubt that! BUT the last 2 REP GOVERNORS prior to this one claimed WE were 'givers'. So someone is lying! One caveat. I will assume that the NET +/- is calculated in 'normal' years. I don't know if we are takers because of costs and emergency aid associated with devastating hurricane relief over the past several years.
 
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Truth Detector said:
How so? Are they American citizens at birth? You're a fucking moron snowflake.



Wrong; the topic is desperately flailing with a fabricated strawman only a low IQ moron like you could buy into.
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You are being a moron again. Puerto Ricans are indeed US citizens. Southern states like Florida do suck more money from DC than they contribute, You do have a need to embarrass yourself
 
archives said:
"New York doesn’t add to Florida’s bills—we pay them. In 2017 Florida took nearly $46 billion more from the federal government than it contributed, making it the No. 2 “grantee” state in the nation. New York is the No. 1 “donor” state. In 2017 we gave the federal government $36 billion more than we got back. The curtailment of SALT deductibility takes this gross imbalance and supercharges it, costing New Yorkers another $14 billion each year."

"But SALT was never about economics. It was about politics. Its explicit purpose was to weaponize the federal tax system against predominantly Democratic states. The 12 states most hurt by the limitations on deductibility all voted against President Trump in 2016."

"GOP purports to oppose policies of “redistribution” but President Trump and the federal government are the true redistributors of wealth—not from rich to poor, but from blue states to red states."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuomo-florida-gets-welfare-from-new-york-11554152628

He could have also added income redistribution from the middle class to the top, amazing how the same people now supposedly hate socialism are in fact some of the greatest proponents of income redistribution

It is Red State Socialism, fact, southern red states living off the blue states dime, yet they'll be the first to label another a "socialist" or "commie," the hypocrisy couldn't be deeper

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ate-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/
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How many military bases does New York support versus how many bases does Florida support? That is where some of that money goes sport. It only stands to reason New York is rich so by liberal logic it only stands to reason New York should pay more. LMAO.
 
katzgar said:
You are I am being a moron again.
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Yes, you most certainly are.

katzgar said:
Puerto Ricans are indeed US citizens.
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No, they are not no matter how many times you bloviate that like a moron.

katzgar said:
Southern states like Florida do suck more money from DC than they contribute,
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That still does not make your asinine and laughably stupid argument you dumb fuck. The money southern states get from the Fed does not go to Republicans; but to BLUE shit hole cities controlled by the Party of the Jackass.

The notion that they are RED makes you look like an idiot. But then, that is the one thing that is consistent about you; you're a fucking idiot.

katzgar said:
You do I have a need to embarrass yourmyself
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Apparently you do.
 
Grumpy said:
How many military bases does New York support versus how many bases does Florida support? That is where some of that money goes sport. It only stands to reason New York is rich so by liberal logic it only stands to reason New York should pay more. LMAO.
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Another EXCELLENT point I had forgotten. Yes, the dishonest morons on the left probably do not distinguish the type of federal dollars going to these states and most of that is probably defense spending.
 
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