Fla. Judge Calls Out Fraud 'Rhetoric'

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Close Elections: Fla. Judge Calls Out Fraud 'Rhetoric'; Georgia Nears Deadline
November 12, 2018

As recounts are underway in Florida, a judge issued a warning on Monday to "ramp down the rhetoric" as top Republicans — including President Trump — are casting doubt on the process.

The Associated Press reports that law enforcement and elections monitors have found no evidence of wrongdoing, but Republican lawyers and candidates, along with Trump, have claimed — without evidence — that there have been voter irregularities and fraud, in addition to improper behavior by local voting officials, that cast doubt on the integrity of the process.

The president tweeted early Monday morning that the elections should be called in favor of Republican Gov. Rick Scott, who is challenging Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson, and former GOP Rep. Ron DeSantis in his bid for governor over Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum. "An honest vote count is no longer possible-ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!" Trump wrote.


Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
The Florida Election should be called in favor of Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis in that large numbers of new ballots showed up out of nowhere, and many ballots are missing or forged. An honest vote count is no longer possible-ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!


With Republicans leading in both the Senate and gubernatorial races, both contests are within the 0.5 percent margin that mandates a statewide recount. Many of the outstanding ballots could be from overseas military personnel, who can have their ballots counted as long as they arrive by Friday and were postmarked by Nov. 6, and it's hardly unusual for votes in many states to be counted after Election Day.


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Broward Circuit Chief Judge Jack Tuter made the comments during an emergency hearing requested by Scott's attorneys, saying, "I am urging because of the highly public nature of this case to ramp down the rhetoric."

"If someone in this lawsuit or someone in this county has evidence of voter fraud or irregularities at the supervisor's office, they should report it to their local law enforcement officer," Tuter said. "If the lawyers are aware of it, they should swear out an affidavit, but everything the lawyers are saying out there in front of the elections office is being beamed all over the country. We need to be careful of what we say. Words mean things these days."

Republicans have cast doubt on the actions of Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes, questioning why the county has been so slow to count ballots. Snipes has pointed to high turnout and a lengthy ballot.

The AP details that during the hearing, Scott's legal team claimed that Snipes was involved in "suspect and unlawful vote counting practices" against state law and that she could "destroy evidence of any errors, accidents or unlawful conduct." They also requested additional sheriff's deputies to be sent to her office to oversee the ballots and voting machines, including to be present to watch them when they weren't in use.

Snipes' lawyers rebutted that the Scott campaign's goal was to "undermine" faith in the elections and, ultimately, the outcome if it doesn't go in their favor. The Broward County office already has cameras, deputies and security guards protecting the ballots.
 
The judge ultimately ordered the parties to meet to find a compromise, and three deputies will be added to the Broward elections office.

Tuter isn't the only Florida official to register apparent frustration with some of the rhetoric coming from the White House. NPR's Miles Parks reports that Mark Early, the supervisor of elections in Leon County, said he didn't want to comment on politics but did stress that these were public servants who were working hard to ensure every vote is counted fairly.

"You've got dedicated patriots out there who are going without sleep, to protect democracy, and if anyone is out there undermining that especially when they have a role in making sure it's done well, that hurts our nation," Early said.

Georgia counties face deadline

In neighboring Georgia, the gubernatorial contest between Republican Brian Kemp, who narrowly leads, and Democrat Stacey Abrams is also drawing scrutiny.

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https://www.npr.org/2018/11/12/6671...out-fraud-rhetoric-ariz-democrat-extends-lead
 
Demalquedacrats seem scared to get caught in their cheating

Simple solutions

1) end motor voter
2) vote only on Election Day with few exceptions
3) strict voter ID WITH citizenship verification

Demalquedacrats will of course oppose with their usual tired argument of “disproportionate this and that”

But the real reason is it would stop demalquedacrats from cheating

Hey where were the Russians during the mid terms? Do they only show up at Presidential elections?
 
I Love America said:
Demalquedacrats seem scared to get caught in their cheating

Simple solutions

1) end motor voter
2) vote only on Election Day with few exceptions
3) strict voter ID WITH citizenship verification

Demalquedacrats will of course oppose with their usual tired argument of “disproportionate this and that”

But the real reason is it would stop demalquedacrats from cheating

Hey where were the Russians during the mid terms? Do they only show up at Presidential elections?
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You can't read, can you?
 
I Love America said:
Demalquedacrats seem scared to get caught in their cheating

Simple solutions

1) end motor voter
2) vote only on Election Day with few exceptions
3) strict voter ID WITH citizenship verification

Demalquedacrats will of course oppose with their usual tired argument of “disproportionate this and that”

But the real reason is it would stop demalquedacrats from cheating

Hey where were the Russians during the mid terms? Do they only show up at Presidential elections?
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Even the Russians can’t change/add votes. Putin is something less than omnipotent, apparently lol.

There’s too much slop in the system that provides opportunity for cheating [without leaving evidence of it] and I’m convinced the system is that way on purpose. Midterm and presidential election days should be declared National Holidays; there should be strict nationwide ID laws—no picture ID, no vote.

And all counting ends no later than the wee hours of the morning the next day. Period. If the local election board can’t get their act together—fire or penalize the whole lot of them.

Until this happens, lefties can kindly keep quiet about the Russians.
 
I Love America said:
Demalquedacrats seem scared to get caught in their cheating

Simple solutions

1) end motor voter
2) vote only on Election Day with few exceptions
3) strict voter ID WITH citizenship verification

Demalquedacrats will of course oppose with their usual tired argument of “disproportionate this and that”

But the real reason is it would stop demalquedacrats from cheating

Hey where were the Russians during the mid terms? Do they only show up at Presidential elections?
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There is no such thing as motor voter in any state. Read what is required to register.
 
Darth Omar said:
Even the Russians can’t change/add votes. Putin is something less than omnipotent, apparently lol.

There’s too much slop in the system that provides opportunity for cheating [without leaving evidence of it] and I’m convinced the system is that way on purpose. Midterm and presidential election days should be declared National Holidays; there should be strict nationwide ID laws—no picture ID, no vote.

And all counting ends no later than the wee hours of the morning the next day. Period. If the local election board can’t get their act together—fire or penalize the whole lot of them.

Until this happens, lefties can kindly keep quiet about the Russians.
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Do you know what a provisional ballot is?
 
kudzu said:
Do you know what a provisional ballot is?
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Why should they be necessary?

I don’t use ‘provisional ID’ to buy a six pack beer—I either have the ID or I don’t lol. If I want to buy beer, I make sure I have an ID.

This isn’t rocket science.
 
Darth Omar said:
Why should they be necessary?

I don’t use ‘provisional ID’ to buy a six pack beer—I either have the ID or I don’t lol. If I want to buy beer, I make sure I have an ID.

This isn’t rocket science.
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That's what I thought.. You don't know what a provisional ballot is.
 
Broward Circuit Chief Judge Jack Tuter made the comments during an emergency hearing requested by Scott's attorneys, saying, "I am urging because of the highly public nature of this case to ramp down the rhetoric."

"If someone in this lawsuit or someone in this county has evidence of voter fraud or irregularities at the supervisor's office, they should report it to their local law enforcement officer," Tuter said. "If the lawyers are aware of it, they should swear out an affidavit, but everything the lawyers are saying out there in front of the elections office is being beamed all over the country. We need to be careful of what we say. Words mean things these days."
 
Darth Omar said:
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/provisional-ballots.aspx
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Yes, that's good.


Voters: To use a provisional ballot, each voter whose eligibility to vote is uncertain must provide a written affirmation, signed in front of an election official at the polling place, stating that he or she is a registered voter and is eligible to vote in the election.

Election officials: Election officials and poll workers must notify potential voters that they have a right to use a provisional ballot, provide the ballot, witness the affirmation, and receive the ballot for later processing. Additionally, election officials must provide information to the voter on how the process works and how to find out if his or her ballot was cast—and if not, why not.

Why Are Provisional Ballots Issued?
For a voter to cast a provisional ballot, there must be some question as to his or her eligibility to vote. These questions vary across states. The most common reasons, as identified by the EAC, are:

The voter’s name is not on the poll or registration list
The voter’s eligibility cannot be otherwise established
The voter’s identity and/or eligibility to vote has been challenged by a poll-worker or election official
The voter does not have identification as required by that state
The voter requested an absentee ballot but claims he or she either didn’t receive it or didn’t cast it
The voter’s address or name has changed but their voter registration information does not reflect the change
For primaries, the voter registration reflects an error in party listing
Most states have additional reasons specific to those states. In addition, HAVA requires all states to issue provisional ballots if the polling place hours are extended by court order.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
do you know how to keep the rejected ones from being mixed back in with the accepted ones?......
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From your link....


How Is a Provisional Ballot Investigated?
Once a provisional ballot is cast, it is stored separately from other ballots and investigated by local election officials. Generally, this process entails verifying the voter’s identity and eligibility to vote, and may require the voter to provide further information. If the identity of the voter and the voter’s eligibility can be established through reviewing the voter rolls or verifying a signature, all or a portion of the ballot will be counted (see below). If their eligibility cannot be established, the ballot will not be counted.
 
kudzu said:
Yes, that's good.


Voters: To use a provisional ballot, each voter whose eligibility to vote is uncertain must provide a written affirmation, signed in front of an election official at the polling place, stating that he or she is a registered voter and is eligible to vote in the election.

Election officials: Election officials and poll workers must notify potential voters that they have a right to use a provisional ballot, provide the ballot, witness the affirmation, and receive the ballot for later processing. Additionally, election officials must provide information to the voter on how the process works and how to find out if his or her ballot was cast—and if not, why not.

Why Are Provisional Ballots Issued?
For a voter to cast a provisional ballot, there must be some question as to his or her eligibility to vote. These questions vary across states. The most common reasons, as identified by the EAC, are:

The voter’s name is not on the poll or registration list
The voter’s eligibility cannot be otherwise established
The voter’s identity and/or eligibility to vote has been challenged by a poll-worker or election official
The voter does not have identification as required by that state
The voter requested an absentee ballot but claims he or she either didn’t receive it or didn’t cast it
The voter’s address or name has changed but their voter registration information does not reflect the change
For primaries, the voter registration reflects an error in party listing
Most states have additional reasons specific to those states. In addition, HAVA requires all states to issue provisional ballots if the polling place hours are extended by court order.
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Reads like part of the Mosaic Law in Leviticus lol.

Here’s an idea: lefties are big on nationalizing everything to force conformity, so make all states use the same voter ID system. No ID, no vote. If people care enough to vote—they should care enough to get the appropriate ID. If they are so lackadaisical about getting the ID they probably have no business voting anyway.

Absentee/provisional ballots should be recieved and kept under strict chain of custody—and absentee ballots that leave the chain of custody are to be eliminated. Period. And the persons responsible for the lapse should face stiff penalty.

And the Snipes person in Broward—fire her already. Cuz, damn.
 
kudzu said:
Broward Circuit Chief Judge Jack Tuter made the comments during an emergency hearing requested by Scott's attorneys, saying, "I am urging because of the highly public nature of this case to ramp down the rhetoric."

"If someone in this lawsuit or someone in this county has evidence of voter fraud or irregularities at the supervisor's office, they should report it to their local law enforcement officer," Tuter said. "If the lawyers are aware of it, they should swear out an affidavit, but everything the lawyers are saying out there in front of the elections office is being beamed all over the country. We need to be careful of what we say. Words mean things these days."

Republicans have cast doubt on the actions of Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes, questioning why the county has been so slow to count ballots. Snipes has pointed to high turnout and a lengthy ballot.

The AP details that during the hearing, Scott's legal team claimed that Snipes was involved in "suspect and unlawful vote counting practices" against state law and that she could "destroy evidence of any errors, accidents or unlawful conduct." They also requested additional sheriff's deputies to be sent to her office to oversee the ballots and voting machines, including to be present to watch them when they weren't in use.

Snipes' lawyers rebutted that the Scott campaign's goal was to "undermine" faith in the elections and, ultimately, the outcome if it doesn't go in their favor. The Broward County office already has cameras, deputies and security guards protecting the ballots.
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Just another judge appointed by a Trump hating Liberal.

BTW, bitch, I know Jeb Bush appointed him.
 
Darth Omar said:
Reads like part of the Mosaic Law in Leviticus lol.

Here’s an idea: lefties are big on nationalizing everything to force conformity, so make all states use the same voter ID system. No ID, no vote. If people care enough to vote—they should care enough to get the appropriate ID. If they are so lackadaisical about getting the ID they probably have no business voting anyway.

Absentee/provisional ballots should be recieved and kept under strict chain of custody—and absentee ballots that leave the chain of custody are to be eliminated. Period. And the persons responsible for the lapse should face stiff penalty.

And the Snipes person in Broward—fire her already. Cuz, damn.
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Provisional ballots are kept separate until they can be vetted.
 
kudzu said:
From your link....


How Is a Provisional Ballot Investigated?
Once a provisional ballot is cast, it is stored separately from other ballots and investigated by local election officials. Generally, this process entails verifying the voter’s identity and eligibility to vote, and may require the voter to provide further information. If the identity of the voter and the voter’s eligibility can be established through reviewing the voter rolls or verifying a signature, all or a portion of the ballot will be counted (see below). If their eligibility cannot be established, the ballot will not be counted.
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you do realize that this does nothing to respond to the question asked, right?.....sometimes it seems like you paste random paragraphs and just hope no one will read them.....
 
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