It is more and more likely this was a left wing set up

Teflon Don

Teflon Don

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I not only doubt Fords claims I think she is completely lying

Her FBI friend has been in on this from the beginning

The Senate Judiciary committee should subpoena both of them and get them to testify under oath
 
It's more likely america is not a functioning representative democratic form of governance, but rather operates as a state capitalist society presided over by the substantial people serving their class power alone.
 
She was credible - I genuinely think she believed what she was saying. Even watching Fox, it seems like there were plenty on the right who felt the same way, and just thought it was faulty memory/mistaken identity.

It's really conspiracy buff stuff to think something like this could be set up without anything ever coming to light. More than 2 or 3 people would have to be involved.

But really, from exactly 1 second into this, you thought she was lying & being paid by the DNC or one of their wealthy donors.
 
Thing1 said:
She was credible - I genuinely think she believed what she was saying. Even watching Fox, it seems like there were plenty on the right who felt the same way, and just thought it was faulty memory/mistaken identity.

It's really conspiracy buff stuff to think something like this could be set up without anything ever coming to light. More than 2 or 3 people would have to be involved.

But really, from exactly 1 second into this, you thought she was lying & being paid by the DNC or one of their wealthy donors.
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Credible does not = truthful

When Bill Clinton denied having sexual relations with “that woman Monica Lewinsky” did he seem credible to you? Did he seem like he believed what he was saying?
 
Teflon Don said:
Credible does not = truthful

When Bill Clinton denied having sexual relations with “that woman Monica Lewinsky” did he seem credible to you? Did he seem like he believed what he was saying?
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He, like Bart, was an obvious liar too, see how that works?
 
Thing1 said:
She was credible - I genuinely think she believed what she was saying. Even watching Fox, it seems like there were plenty on the right who felt the same way, and just thought it was faulty memory/mistaken identity.

It's really conspiracy buff stuff to think something like this could be set up without anything ever coming to light. More than 2 or 3 people would have to be involved.

But really, from exactly 1 second into this, you thought she was lying & being paid by the DNC or one of their wealthy donors.
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if you have someone that is mistaken or has memory problems how can they, in your view, be credible? Doesn't being credible sort of imply those things aren't issues?
 
Irthriuth said:
if you have someone that is mistaken or has memory problems how can they, in your view, be credible? Doesn't being credible sort of imply those things aren't issues?
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No. Credible here just means that she believes what she's saying - she's not intentionally lying for some conspiratorial reason, as the OP suggests.

I thought Kav was credible as well, in that he believed what he was saying. I still don't know what happened, though - and neither do you. Could have been mistaken identity for her, could have been a black out thing for him.
 
Teflon Don said:
Thingy always tries to split the baby
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Or, just present things in an objective, non-partisan way.

In case you haven't noticed, it's the partisans who have drawn definite conclusions - righties think she's lying, and lefties think he's guilty. The truth is more complex than that.
 
the timing of the leak is absolutely a left wing setup.

even the left so prone to lie will mostly admit that. they think the treatment of Garland warrants this level of gutter politics
 
iewitness said:
There is no "complexity" to truth. Ford is a nasty bitch witch and kavanaugh is a dweeb that did not get any pussy until he was married.
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He's a lying spoiled white male of privilege, mediocre at best, who rode his privilege to his birthright in american society. America brought the old world with it when it came.
 
Teflon Don said:
I not only doubt Fords claims I think she is completely lying

Her FBI friend has been in on this from the beginning

The Senate Judiciary committee should subpoena both of them and get them to testify under oath
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Thing1 said:
Or, just present things in an objective, non-partisan way.

In case you haven't noticed, it's the partisans who have drawn definite conclusions - righties think she's lying, and lefties think he's guilty. The truth is more complex than that.
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Like I said. Split the baby

ROFLMAO

what a clown
 
Thing1 said:
Or, just present things in an objective, non-partisan way.

In case you haven't noticed, it's the partisans who have drawn definite conclusions - righties think she's lying, and lefties think he's guilty. The truth is more complex than that.
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Was Bill Clinton credible when he denied Monica Lewinski?

Was Charles Manson credible when he said he didn’t kill those people? He seemed to believe it
 
Teflon Don said:
Like I said. Split the baby

ROFLMAO

what a clown
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This board is a topsy-turvy kind of world. I can certainly see where anyone who is not immersed in the koolaid of either side could be viewed as a "clown."

Like I said, you decided in a second that she was lying & that this is a DNC set-up, and you always admit how extremely partisan you are. How much credibility can you hope for, given these circumstances?
 
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