Of course he "loves the poorly educated". They're much easier to con.John Kruzel studied to be a lawyer, started out as a lawyer but decided instead to work at Left winged ABC News. Now he’s at Politifake as “fact checker” (chortle). He loves a beer. He loves his tattooed wife. He loves letting his hair down. He hates Trump like all left winged millennials, and that qualifies him well as far as Politifake is concerned. Kruzel may be a klutz, but he’s a cool klutz with hipster glasses.
Jeremy Diamond is Episcopalian. He speaks fluent French and a little Spanish. He went to a Washington government university and got a bachelor’s degree, worked in some New York radio stations and interned at CNN. He’s a bit of a ladies man. He likes a beer. He likes his hipster beard. And he likes to be a Trump hating millennial.
Nice try attempting to discredit the writers to make your point. You label them as left winged millenials and beer drinkers (Beer drinkers? Oh, the humanity). You must be really intimidated by them. I can see why since they're light years smarter than you. Too bad you have to take this approach but most people can see right through your radicalized extremism, not unlike the radicalized muslims. Hey, you have something in common with terrorists. You must feel so good about yourself being a staunch Trump foot soldier. Must be because he "loves the poorly educated".
Can you point to one real lie Trump told, with the exact quote and link?
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ThatOwlWoman
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Good old "kill the messenger" politics, eh?
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
Exactly! Just look at all the poorly educated Trump supporters on this forum and what they think is true. It's utterly laughable.
Ignorance is bliss
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
Rob Larrikin
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Another Lefty said:
First, here’s the link you couldn’t find to this PolitiFake lie, written by young millennial reporter, Michaela Winberg, Tuesday, June 5th, 2018. Her big screaming headline reads, “President Trump said Eagles players kneeled for the anthem. They didn’t.”
She said:
Michaela Winberg is referring to Trump’s tweet, which can be seen here. It says the following:
When Michaela Winberg says, “and in part because Trump said that players had been kneeling or standing in the locker room during the national anthem, which he said was "disrespectful”, she is mischievously editing and misquoting. To show this, let’s lay them down side by side:
Trump said:
Trump said staying in the locker room was AS disrespectful as kneeling. He didn’t say they were kneeling.
Another lie by Politifake, and by the young millennial, Michaela Winberg. So who is Michaela Winberg? This knucklehead, that's who:
A recent graduate of Temple University's Klein College of Media and Communication, she was editor-in-chief of The Temple News, where she oversaw the production of the weekly newspaper and daily online content, both focused on hyperlocal coverage of North Philadelphia. Yippee! Little Michaela thinks she knows all about 72 year old billionaire POTUS, Donald Trump. What would Fake News be without little millennials like her to set us all straight?
First, here’s the link you couldn’t find to this PolitiFake lie, written by young millennial reporter, Michaela Winberg, Tuesday, June 5th, 2018. Her big screaming headline reads, “President Trump said Eagles players kneeled for the anthem. They didn’t.”
She said:
The President released a statement Monday night informing the public that he had uninvited the Birds from the traditional post-Super Bowl victory visit. Why? In part because "only a small number of players decided to come," and in part because Trump said that players had been kneeling or standing in the locker room during the national anthem, which he said was "disrespectful." Many people on the internet made the reasonable assumption that Trump was talking about Eagles players.
Michaela Winberg is referring to Trump’s tweet, which can be seen here. It says the following:
The Philadelphia Eagles Football Team was invited to the White House. Unfortunately, only a small number of players decided to come, and we canceled the event. Staying in the Locker Room for the playing of our National Anthem is as disrespectful to our country as kneeling. Sorry!
When Michaela Winberg says, “and in part because Trump said that players had been kneeling or standing in the locker room during the national anthem, which he said was "disrespectful”, she is mischievously editing and misquoting. To show this, let’s lay them down side by side:
Trump said:
Staying in the Locker Room for the playing of our National Anthem is as disrespectful to our country as kneeling. Sorry!
Winberg said Trump said:…players had been kneeling or standing in the locker room during the national anthem, which was "disrespectful”
Trump said staying in the locker room was AS disrespectful as kneeling. He didn’t say they were kneeling.
Another lie by Politifake, and by the young millennial, Michaela Winberg. So who is Michaela Winberg? This knucklehead, that's who:
A recent graduate of Temple University's Klein College of Media and Communication, she was editor-in-chief of The Temple News, where she oversaw the production of the weekly newspaper and daily online content, both focused on hyperlocal coverage of North Philadelphia. Yippee! Little Michaela thinks she knows all about 72 year old billionaire POTUS, Donald Trump. What would Fake News be without little millennials like her to set us all straight?
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
Another Lefty:
Obama’s TV viewers were 19% higher in 2009, but the global TV audience and web audience for the US and the world would have been significantly higher in 2017 than they would ever be in 2009. During that 8 years billions more people went online and had access to smart phones, iPads, etc. There is no doubt at all that Trump’s audience was many times as large as Obama’s, and the largest ever for an inauguration. To add to that, Trump has received far more publicity than any other POTUS, and probably any other human since humans first stood up to walk, again, thanks to the internet.
So, once again, no lie.
Thank you. Let’s take a look. The answer here is in the article you linked us to, in the Independent. This is what it says, if you scroll down to the bottom of the article [emphasis mine]:
On January 23, Mr Spicer again briefed journalists on Mr Trump’s crowd size, but emphasized Mr Trump’s combined global viewing figures, which he said in addition to the crowd, made the highest viewing figure in history.
There is no known figure for how many people streamed the inauguration across the world, but if there was, it certainly could surpass previous inaugural audiences.
However, Nielsen, which records the US live television viewing figures, said an estimated 31 million people tuned in to watch the 2017 inauguration, about 19 per cent lower than the number who watched Mr Obama’s 2009 inauguration.
There is no known figure for how many people streamed the inauguration across the world, but if there was, it certainly could surpass previous inaugural audiences.
However, Nielsen, which records the US live television viewing figures, said an estimated 31 million people tuned in to watch the 2017 inauguration, about 19 per cent lower than the number who watched Mr Obama’s 2009 inauguration.
Obama’s TV viewers were 19% higher in 2009, but the global TV audience and web audience for the US and the world would have been significantly higher in 2017 than they would ever be in 2009. During that 8 years billions more people went online and had access to smart phones, iPads, etc. There is no doubt at all that Trump’s audience was many times as large as Obama’s, and the largest ever for an inauguration. To add to that, Trump has received far more publicity than any other POTUS, and probably any other human since humans first stood up to walk, again, thanks to the internet.
So, once again, no lie.
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
Here is an example of how Fake News works. We start with an article in that great bastion of Fake News, the failing New York Times, May 25, 2018. The paragraph in question reads [emphasis mine]:
Trump saw this and it angered him, because of all the senior White House officials he knew, he couldn’t imagine any of them saying this. A senior White House official saying it was impossible? No way.
So Trump correctly tweeted:
After that, Fake News expressed great poutrage, insisting that in fact their beloved senior White House official DID exist, and that it was NOT phony news. Trump hater Louis Jacobson accused President Trump of lying, in his PolitiFake article, May 29th, 2018.
He explained that the senior White House official was Matthew Pottinger, and published what the White house press official had said [emphasis mine]
He also explained that Pottinger had not used the word ‘impossible’ as the New York Times had said, but decided that this didn’t matter.
In fact the New York Times (and all of Fake News, including PolitiFake) made two mistakes.
1) Matthew Pottinger did not use the word ‘impossible’, so that was a mischievous misquote.
2) Matthew Pottinger was not a senior White House official.
When Trump saw the New York Times paragraph, which read,
Indeed, since Pottinger is not a seniorWhite House official, and since he did not say ‘impossible’, the ‘senior White House official’ was indeed invented by the failing New York Times.
Once again, no lie.
Results for the Left so far:
ZERO.
As with so many issues involving this president, the views of his aides often have little effect on what he actually says. On Thursday, for example, a senior White House official told reporters that even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.
Trump saw this and it angered him, because of all the senior White House officials he knew, he couldn’t imagine any of them saying this. A senior White House official saying it was impossible? No way.
So Trump correctly tweeted:
The Failing @nytimes quotes “a senior White House official,” who doesn’t exist, as saying “even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.” WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources.
After that, Fake News expressed great poutrage, insisting that in fact their beloved senior White House official DID exist, and that it was NOT phony news. Trump hater Louis Jacobson accused President Trump of lying, in his PolitiFake article, May 29th, 2018.
He explained that the senior White House official was Matthew Pottinger, and published what the White house press official had said [emphasis mine]
"This briefing’s going to be on background, off camera, not for broadcast. Pottinger here can be referred to as a senior White House official. He is deputy assistant to the president for Asia. And you can take it from here."
He also explained that Pottinger had not used the word ‘impossible’ as the New York Times had said, but decided that this didn’t matter.
In fact the New York Times (and all of Fake News, including PolitiFake) made two mistakes.
1) Matthew Pottinger did not use the word ‘impossible’, so that was a mischievous misquote.
2) Matthew Pottinger was not a senior White House official.
When Trump saw the New York Times paragraph, which read,
"As with so many issues involving this president, the views of his aides often have little effect on what he actually says. On Thursday, for example, a senior White House official told reporters that even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed,"
he was perfectly correct in saying:"The Failing @nytimes quotes “a senior White House official,” who doesn’t exist, as saying “even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.” WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources."
Indeed, since Pottinger is not a seniorWhite House official, and since he did not say ‘impossible’, the ‘senior White House official’ was indeed invented by the failing New York Times.
Once again, no lie.
Results for the Left so far:
ZERO.
Here is an example of how Fake News works. We start with an article in that great bastion of Fake News, the failing New York Times, May 25, 2018. The paragraph in question reads [emphasis mine]:
As with so many issues involving this president, the views of his aides often have little effect on what he actually says. On Thursday, for example, a senior White House official told reporters that even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.
Trump saw this and it angered him, because of all the senior White House officials he knew, he couldn’t imagine any of them saying this. A senior White House official saying it was impossible? No way.
So Trump correctly tweeted:
The Failing @nytimes quotes “a senior White House official,” who doesn’t exist, as saying “even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.” WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources.
After that, Fake News expressed great poutrage, insisting that in fact their beloved senior White House official DID exist, and that it was NOT phony news. Trump hater Louis Jacobson accused President Trump of lying, in his PolitiFake article, May 29th, 2018.
He explained that the senior White House official was Matthew Pottinger, and published what the White house press official had said [emphasis mine]
"This briefing’s going to be on background, off camera, not for broadcast. Pottinger here can be referred to as a senior White House official. He is deputy assistant to the president for Asia. And you can take it from here."
He also explained that Pottinger had not used the word ‘impossible’ as the New York Times had said, but decided that this didn’t matter.
In fact the New York Times (and all of Fake News, including PolitiFake) made two mistakes.
1) Matthew Pottinger did not use the word ‘impossible’, so that was a mischievous misquote.
2) Matthew Pottinger was not a senior White House official.
When Trump saw the New York Times paragraph, which read,
"As with so many issues involving this president, the views of his aides often have little effect on what he actually says. On Thursday, for example, a senior White House official told reporters that even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed,"he was perfectly correct in saying:
"The Failing @nytimes quotes “a senior White House official,” who doesn’t exist, as saying “even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.” WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources."
Indeed, since Pottinger is not a seniorWhite House official, and since he did not say ‘impossible’, the ‘senior White House official’ was indeed invented by the failing New York Times.
Once again, no lie.
Results for the Left so far:
ZERO.
Wrong again, dumbfuck. You’re merely too obstinately stupid to recognize them.
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
Another example of mischievous reporting is the “Pants-on-Fire” article by young Chris Nichols’, March 13, 2018, in PolitiFake, here.
Chris writes:
That’s great Chris, except for one small detail. That isn’t what Trump said. Here is the transcript, which is reasonably accurate, but for exact wording listen to the video provided at that link. I have, and the exact quote is as follows:
Here’s how that misquote would look if Chris Nichols left instructions for it:
The wicked gremlins of Fake News strike again.
Chris writes:
Here’s Trump’s full statement made March 13, 2018:
"For the people that say 'no wall,' if you had no walls over here, you wouldn’t have a country. The state of California is begging us to build walls in certain areas. They don’t tell you that. And we said no, we won’t do it until we build the whole wall."
"For the people that say 'no wall,' if you had no walls over here, you wouldn’t have a country. The state of California is begging us to build walls in certain areas. They don’t tell you that. And we said no, we won’t do it until we build the whole wall."
That’s great Chris, except for one small detail. That isn’t what Trump said. Here is the transcript, which is reasonably accurate, but for exact wording listen to the video provided at that link. I have, and the exact quote is as follows:
But you know, for the people that say no wall, if you didn't have walls over here you wouldn't even have a country. You wouldn't even have a country. And by the way, the state of California is begging us to build walls in certain areas. They don't tell you that. And we said no, we won't do it until we build the whole wall. But there are certain areas as you know where they are really wanting us to build a wall, and... because the people are complaining; people are pouring in, so, y’know, they don't talk about that.
Here’s how that misquote would look if Chris Nichols left instructions for it:
The wicked gremlins of Fake News strike again.
Trump says you’re just a disgruntled former employee. Answer the allegations.
I think it’s how you would define the word disgruntled. I was clearly upset when I left that organization. I was disgruntled from the perspective that I didn’t like the things he was saying about my friends. Specifically he blamed some of these impending problems, whether it was the debt or the Taj Mahal opening or whatever, he was blaming these problems on two people [Steve Hyde and Mark Etess] that had died while working for him.
It is ultimately what broke Donald and I apart, is that I couldn’t handle that anymore. So I was very disgruntled at his behavior. I didn’t like what he was saying about my friends. I didn’t like that they couldn’t defend themselves because they had died while working for him … And that’s why I wrote the book, is to just set the record straight. And that’s why after I wrote the book, I did my publicity and then I walked away from it, until 26 years later.
So yeah, I was upset. But I loved working there. It was a great job.
… I don’t know if this is even appropriate for this, but I think one of the greatest things that I ever read about Donald Trump is he did an interview for Playboy, and he was on the cover of Playboy. And in this interview they asked him about me. And he said, “Everything that Jack O’Donnell wrote about me in that book is probably true. But he’s a loser.” I can’t help myself, I feel complimented! [laughter]
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-frontline-interview-jack-odonnell/
I think it’s how you would define the word disgruntled. I was clearly upset when I left that organization. I was disgruntled from the perspective that I didn’t like the things he was saying about my friends. Specifically he blamed some of these impending problems, whether it was the debt or the Taj Mahal opening or whatever, he was blaming these problems on two people [Steve Hyde and Mark Etess] that had died while working for him.
It is ultimately what broke Donald and I apart, is that I couldn’t handle that anymore. So I was very disgruntled at his behavior. I didn’t like what he was saying about my friends. I didn’t like that they couldn’t defend themselves because they had died while working for him … And that’s why I wrote the book, is to just set the record straight. And that’s why after I wrote the book, I did my publicity and then I walked away from it, until 26 years later.
So yeah, I was upset. But I loved working there. It was a great job.
… I don’t know if this is even appropriate for this, but I think one of the greatest things that I ever read about Donald Trump is he did an interview for Playboy, and he was on the cover of Playboy. And in this interview they asked him about me. And he said, “Everything that Jack O’Donnell wrote about me in that book is probably true. But he’s a loser.” I can’t help myself, I feel complimented! [laughter]
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-frontline-interview-jack-odonnell/
This topic was always clearly a waste. Larrikin is completely delusional when it comes to Trump. He's a Trump cultist to the bone. To him. Trump is incapable of lying or making a mistake. Trump is the reincarnation of Jesus. I didn't see any reply to the lie in my signature, but I'm sure he had some rationalization for Trump promising that he'd be too busy to golf, yet he's the golfingest President in history. His and Trump's complaints about "fake news" are quite hypocritical, since This administration is the largest single source of fake news.