Michigan Rs email show gerrymandering plans

cawacko said:
Here's what you wrote: ""So, while California is trying to improve democracy, Michigan Republicans (and Republicans elsewhere) are trying to subvert democracy.""


I simply pointed out it was on the ballot in 2005 (Prop 77) and the Democratic Party was against it and it was defeated something like 40% to 59%. So yes we ultimately voted for it years later but Democrats are no different than Republicans in doing what they can for electoral advantage.


I'm all for taking the power away from elected officials to draw up districts to their advantage. It's a complete conflict of interest with concern only for the politicians, not the people in the districts. As part of that though I would want the VRA majority-minority districts removed as well. It doesn't work if you don't. The VRA was created for a very good reason but the country is different today and districts should be drawn by geography not race.
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https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/ELECTION-2005-Debate-on-Prop-77-over-retired-2564684.php




California voters pass Proposition 77 next month, the three retired judges who will draw the state's political lines are likely to resemble one another more than they will the rest of the people in this increasingly diverse state.
The state's 1,000 or so retired judges are mostly elderly, relatively wealthy, white men who, opponents of the redistricting initiative argue, cannot fairly make decisions that will affect everyone in California.
"We're not saying retired judges are bad people, but three people can't represent the diversity of California," said John Trasvina, a senior vice president for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund. "They have their own partisan baggage."
The measure would take the reapportionment power away from the state Legislature with the intention to draw new political boundaries



California was not gerrymandered idiot
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You're right; we're on it. Check this out.

"Voters Not Politicians’ mission is to end gerrymandering by 2018 through a citizen led ballot initiative. We have collected the required 315,654 valid signatures in 180 days, that will secure a spot in the November 6, 2018 election as a ballot measure. With a simple majority vote from the voters of Michigan, we will amend Michigan’s constitution to place an Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission in charge of redistricting, ensuring that voters will choose their politicians, not the other way around."

https://www.votersnotpoliticians.com/thesolution
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The Democratic Party of the Jackass will probably not support this.
 
Kacper said:
Who gets to appoint your independent commission? California's is loaded down with democrats--democrats who gerrymander the state
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Kacper said:
Still doesn't say who gets to decide as far as its weighted application process. If you want to end gerrymandering you have to take the demographics completely out of it. It needs to be done based on population numbers alone and some agreed upon metric as far as the geography. Anything else, is gerrymandering by another name.
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ANOTHER....

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ThatOwlWoman said:
I'd like to see it done completely dispassionately with computer programs and grids, rather than the sloppy shit we have now.
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You do realize that the Democratic Party of the Jackass use this based on demographic representation don't you? They will never agree with anyone else doing this.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
As usual son, you see half of the problem.
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As usual, you ignore what you don't want to see.

I'm hearing how bad gerrymandering is when the party in power that controls the entity doing the drawing of districts does so for political spoils. However, I don't hear a peep about gerrymandering being done using something that if used to take away from certain groups is used to benefit certain groups. Failure to address the latter tells me the outrage about the former is nothing more than whining by bitches like you that could change it if you could actually win control of enough state legislatures. Because you can't win, you cry crocodile tears over it.:(
 
evince said:
No asshole deaf turd


your party cheats democracy with gerrymandering
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The black majority minority districts cheat humanity by electing people with a built in guarantee that who otherwise could not get hired to shine shoes, clean toilets, or empty trash in the Capitol with it.

Maxine Waters isn't qualified to play Aunt Esther is a remake of Sanford and Son much less represent any district in any State.
 
CFM said:
The black majority minority districts cheat humanity by electing people with a built in guarantee that who otherwise could not get hired to shine shoes, clean toilets, or empty trash in the Capitol with it.

Maxine Waters isn't qualified to play Aunt Esther is a remake of Sanford and Son much less represent any district in any State.
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Too bad she's under your skin living in your head cornpone.
 
CFM said:
As usual, you ignore what you don't want to see.

I'm hearing how bad gerrymandering is when the party in power that controls the entity doing the drawing of districts does so for political spoils. However, I don't hear a peep about gerrymandering being done using something that if used to take away from certain groups is used to benefit certain groups. Failure to address the latter tells me the outrage about the former is nothing more than whining by bitches like you that could change it if you could actually win control of enough state legislatures. Because you can't win, you cry crocodile tears over it.:(
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Win? What, with the democratic party? Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ....
 
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