John McShame is a real pill

All they care about is the first sentence. John McCain may be the savior of Obamas legislation. They couldn't give a damn about the bills contents.
 
Liar. This was your statement.

I told you wasn't required to quote their nasty death wish posts, Christiecrite. Because I wasn't. Moving the goalposts after the fact is the kind of slimy trick I've come to expect from you, unfortunately.

I told you wasn't? :rofl2: Now you're trying to defend your weasel words. I get it. You're one of those people who always has to be right.

Blah blah blah

Newsflash, nobody here is required to give in to your ultimatums. You have been on this forum (supposedly) for two months, and have no history with anybody. So I suggest you back off and save your energy for the important stuff rather than spamming the board with nonsense.
 
If that's what you need to believe to delude yourself into thinking you "won" something, I won't try to take your pitiful self-deception away. That would be cruel. :rofl2:

Did I say that, dimwit? Nope. I merely knew you would use that lame tactic. You RW morons continually do so.
 
If I feel the need to solicit suggestions from a proven hypocrite with a track record of double standards, I know where to find you. :rofl2:

If a hypocrite's who you're looking for, check your mirror.

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You have failed again to prove Zappacrite's claim, Buxly, despite your infantile repetition of your unsubstantiated opinions.

Review the text below and get back to me.






Sucks 2 b Buck. :rofl2:

This is not my opinion. It is substantiated fact.
Since day one republicans have done all they can to make the AHA look like a" disaster"...

BTW it is not.
 
What a moron. So even when you are the majority party you must consult and work with the other party. Sort of like when the Dimocrats passed it to begin with.
 
How the GOP destroyed ObamaCare:

The Affordable Care Act isn't raising your premiums. Republicans are

Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan, Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price and Trump have used repeatedly: that the Affordable Care Act is in a so-called "death spiral" that will inevitably "explode," so they need to pass a bill, no matter how terrible, before it does. That narrative is patently false. In fact, most of the instability driving up premiums in the marketplace can be directly traced to Republicans' efforts to undermine the health care law for their own political purposes.

Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, for example, was among the first to land a blow. In 2014, he proudly led a successful effort to cut funding for the "risk corridors" program
. Rubio called the payments made from these funds a "bailout" for insurers, but in fact the program was an integral backstop to help control premiums as insurance companies in the marketplaces adjusted to the new population they were covering. The consequence of that ploy to score political points was that some insurers left the marketplace, and many Americans' premiums went up.

Perhaps the most drastic way that the Trump administration is sabotaging American's health insurance is by refusing to commit to reimbursing health plans for the cost-sharing reduction payments they make to lower out-of-pocket costs for their lowest income members. Insurance companies are currently in the process of determining their rates for the 2018 plan year, and without a guarantee from the administration that they will receive the payments they are owed, they will factor that added cost into their premiums for next year. And you don't have to take my word for it – the Kaiser Family Foundation estimates that insurers would need to raise premiums for silver-level plans by an average of 19 percent to compensate if the administration will not commit to making the cost-sharing reduction payments.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/poli...aised-your-health-care-premiums-not-obamacare

The republicans intentions, motivations and actions are well understood by anyone paying attention.
They have been trying desperately yo make the AHA look like a "disaster" since day one.
It needs some tweaking, but "a disaster" it is not.
 
So you have nothing. :rofl2:

I merely called you on your lame, logical fallacy before you tried to use it. Just like the limited cliches you lemmings always use, the same pathetic tactics keep coming around.

Here's another lame tactic. Look familiar?

"Members banned from this thread: evince, signalmankenneth, Covfefe, Rune, Buckly J. Ewer, CFM, domer76, archives, Nomad, Micawber, Hesher, crowonapost, Amadeus, soiled knickers, Silver Buzzard, floridafan and Zippity Doo Da"

Low hanging fruit, Clyde.
 
Sen. John McCain may, once again, be the savior of President Obama's signature domestic achievement.

The Arizona Republican announced in a statement Friday that he opposes the latest GOP legislation to dismantle the Affordable Care Act.

"I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal. I believe we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats, and have not yet really tried," McCain said in a statement posted on his website.

McCain now joins Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., as one of two Republican 'no' votes on the bill. Republicans cannot lose any additional senators and still pass the legislation with 50 votes and Vice President Mike Pence acting as the tie-breaker.

The focus now shifts to two female GOP moderates, Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine.

Collins is widely believed to be opposed to Graham-Cassidy as she has voted against all previous versions of GOP repeal bills, but she has not yet made her position on this bill public. She has, however, criticized Graham-Cassidy and echoed McCain's calls for bipartisan efforts to address health care concerns.

Likewise, Murkowski voted against the previous GOP health care bills, and has not yet declared her position. The Trump administration and GOP Senate leaders have been in ongoing negotiations to try and win her vote.

If one of the two senators announces opposition to the latest bill, it cannot pass the Senate. GOP leaders have said this is the last attempt they will make to repeal Obamacare ahead of the Sept. 30 deadline, when special budget rules expire that allow Republicans to pass a bill with just 50 votes.

The bill, authored by Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, is the most far-reaching GOP proposal to date to undo Obamacare. The bill repeals key pillars of the law, like the individual mandate, loosens its federal regulations, like those affecting preexisting conditions, and fundamentally overhauls Medicaid from an open-ended federal guarantee to a capped funding program directly to the states.

McCain said his opposition is not based on the substance of the bill, but rather how it was put together. "I would consider supporting legislation similar to that offered by my friends Senators Graham and Cassidy were it the product of extensive hearings, debate and amendment. But that has not been the case," he said.

This is a familiar role for McCain, who cast the decisive vote back in July that derailed an earlier version of the party's health care bill. His vote came just days after he was diagnosed with a severe form of brain cancer, for which he is undergoing chemotherapy and radiation treatments at the National Institutes of Health.


http://www.npr.org/2017/09/22/55293...-to-obamacare-repeal-bill-possibly-dooming-it

Stockholm syndrome? Obama beat him so bad, that he now loves Obama. And is out to save his legacy.
 
I merely called you on your lame, logical fallacy before you tried to use it. Just like the limited cliches you lemmings always use, the same pathetic tactics keep coming around. Low hanging fruit, Clyde.

For the benefit of the developmentally disabled - you, I repeat.

You have nothing. :rofl2:
 
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