Tucker Carlson Takes on the Russiaphobes / Neocons & assorted Warmongers

Tucker Carlson can get off his high horse, he supported invading Iraq.

p.s., is there anything more hilarious than Republicans, Republican-sympathizers, and conservatards posing as hippie peaceniks? I think not!

You know what I remember from a decade plus on message boards? It was liberals, and pretty much only liberal message boarders who spoke out forcefully against the Iraq War.

So did these Democrats; do they need to get off their high horses too?

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And that's a big part of why she lost the election.

But the salient point is that an Iraq War cheerleader like Carlson doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to the topic of warmongering.

I'm not sure if you guys realize how insanely wrong you were in 2003. There seems to be some sort of collective amnesia on the right about that. The biggest foreign policy blunder of modern times, and your side couldn't get enough of it.

So are all these Democrats war mongers too?

Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
-- President Bill Clinton (State of the Union Address), Jan. 27, 1998

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing. He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators.""Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries. I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."
-- Sen. John Edwards (D, NC) Feb. 24, 2002

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power. We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." "
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed. We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Edward Kennedy (D, MA) Sep. 27, 2002

"Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him."
-- State Senator Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois) Oct. 2, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."
-- Senator John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."
-- Sen. Harry Reid (D. NV) Oct. 9, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. ... Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons."
-- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D. CA) Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
-- Ex President Bill Clinton, Jul. 22, 2003 (Interview with CNN Larry King)

I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration. And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction. What we're worried about is an A-bomb in a Ryder truck in New York, in Washington and St. Louis. It cannot happen. We have to prevent it from happening.
-- Rep. Richard Gephardt (D, MT) Nov. 2, 2003
 
I recall Iraq, and how the left was united against Bush.
Eventually the rest of America caught up, but the left was anti-war.
Hilary went along for the ride but nobody thought too much of it; afterall so did Biden,
and we all knew Biden was a serious guy.

Then Libya-the mother of all blow backs- part II. ( Obama/NATO create a failed terrorist state)
This is where i found the neocons were being partnered with so called 'neolibs'. I got off that traiin and watched the interventionist neocons flock together with the neo-libs to create that "Smart Power" continuing disaster

By the end of the Obama administration it became clear that liberal politics were much like neo-cons..
In fact they were more interventionist then Russia who stayed out of Libya ( and call us out on it to this day)

I think Clinton's NATO expansion set up this laziness of purpose that all we had to do was encircle Putin
and invade small counries at will,and for some reason -being the USA- we always came out on top.

Here's what I remember:

Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
-- President Bill Clinton (State of the Union Address), Jan. 27, 1998

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing. He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators.""Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries. I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."
-- Sen. John Edwards (D, NC) Feb. 24, 2002

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power. We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." "
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed. We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Edward Kennedy (D, MA) Sep. 27, 2002

"Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him."
-- State Senator Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois) Oct. 2, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."
-- Senator John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."
-- Sen. Harry Reid (D. NV) Oct. 9, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. ... Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons."
-- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D. CA) Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
-- Ex President Bill Clinton, Jul. 22, 2003 (Interview with CNN Larry King)

I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration. And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction. What we're worried about is an A-bomb in a Ryder truck in New York, in Washington and St. Louis. It cannot happen. We have to prevent it from happening.
-- Rep. Richard Gephardt (D, MT) Nov. 2, 2003
 
classic neocon war monger stuck in the 1980's. it's a shame liberals have flocked to such outdated beliefs for political expediency.
laziness of purpose. One the USSR fell,we took a perverse pleasure in sticking it to Putin.
afterall Russia was a laughing stock led by the drunken Yeltsin..why not?

We let the eastern European countries into NATO -which had been a western Europe/Atlantic alliance
for darn near any reason.. Some were purely economic ( let them in the EU -not NATO)

Putin came along and determined not to be trashed by the west anymore,but the NATO expansion was started under Clinton and the left no longer stood against the Cold War 2 escalation weapons/fronts madness.
Russia didn't really matter anymore ( they thought) so why not expand American led exceptionalism worldwide?
 
Thinking people were against the Iraq war. Carlson said he went there early and changed his mind.
whatever. He sure as hell didn't support Libya.

I'm no liberal and I was against "yellow ribbon madness". recall those yellow ribbons on trees?)
It was obvious were were being jingo-rushed to war on very thin ( and found false pretense).

Hans Blix told us so. the problem is most people -and libs included weren't listening

But Hillary changed her mind too, and you still call her an Iraq War Supporter.

So you have to apply the exact same standard to your hero, Tucker. You are not allowed to cut him slack.

There are a lot of people of have the credibility and history to be in a position to lecture NeoCons.... Me. Maxine Waters. Barack Obama. BlackAsCoal. Thing. Covfefe. MottTheHoople. ChristieFan.

Tucker Carlson is not one of the people allowed to lecture NeoCons. I suspect you are not either. Something tells me you either voted for Dumbya, or defended him.
 
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Tuck should have stayed with the plaid suits and bow ties...
It fit his bewildered, cross-eyed look much better.

Bill O'Reilly must be turning over in his grave.
 
But Hillary changed her mind too, and you still call her an Iraq War Supporter.

I love this moronic claim; Hillary and Kerry were for the war before they were against it. Liberals really are the biggest liars and dumbest people on the planet.
 
Tuck should have stayed with the plaid suits and bow ties...
It fit his bewildered, cross-eyed look much better.

Bill O'Reilly must be turning over in his grave.

You should stay in your cave and STFU instead of constantly reminding the forum of what a dumbfuck you are. :rofl2:
 
But Hillary changed her mind too, and you still call her an Iraq War Supporter.

So you have to apply the exact same standard to your hero, Tucker. You are not allowed to cut him slack.

There are a lot of people of have the credibility and history to be in a position to lecture NeoCons.... Me. Maxine Waters. Barack Obama. BlackAsCoal. Thing. Covfefe. MottTheHoople. ChristieFan.

Tucker Carlson is not one of the people allowed to lecture NeoCons. I suspect you are not either. Something tells me you either voted for Dumbya, or defended him.
You can ask BAC. I was against Iraq.
and never voted Republican in my life for POTUS before Trump. I supported both Bernie and Trump as insrtument of change in DC.

where you point falls apart on Hillary is Libya ( Syria to some extent too). She was the deciding voice that swayed Obama to support R2P ( responsibility to protect)on false purposes. She didn't learn from Iraq, and to this day refuses to call Libya a disaster.


I have done extensive research on Libya
BAC and myself were actually partners against it in 2011.while we agree on nothing else -our anti-interventionist views are the same on Libya and Syria

PS. this "not allowed" is your meme. I'm not fond of Carlson's past, but by great Buddha he does deserve props for starting out each show with "Russian hysteria" updates , as well as tearing apart the neocons here.
 
I wonder who he tears up tomorrow?
The Russiaphobes can't take a challenge ( Peters)without getting nasty and the neocons can't defend their record (Boot)..The Dems just froth "treason/impeachment"
 
I have always thought one of the most telling admissions about the Iraq War is when righties TODAY try to bend over backwards to give Democrats "credit" for the war.

Speaks volumes about what they think about the decision to invade now. What a turnabout - I still remember 2003 vividly, when the left was on the "wrong side of history," and we were traitors and terrorist-sympathizers.

I swear - Iraq War supporters shouldn't even enter a discussion on foreign policy anymore. They should permanently recuse themselves. That's one you don't get a mulligan on.
 
This guys is a war mongering neocon. The factions who we are assisting started out with ties to Nusra Front and Tayit al Sham..

Watch Colonel Peters froth out of control at the very though of going after ISIS together w/Russia
( and it's becoming clear the Russians got Baghdadi)..
Notice how the Colonel hates everybody
Saudi,Iran, Afghan.....but the Russian meltdown is the best.he starts to crack around 4:30
*Peters calls Carlson a Nazi apologist*


Tonight! Max Boot gets the boot!! ( video to follow when posted)
It's the WWF of Infotainment.

Keep us updated
 
I have always thought one of the most telling admissions about the Iraq War is when righties TODAY try to bend over backwards to give Democrats "credit" for the war.

Speaks volumes about what they think about the decision to invade now. What a turnabout - I still remember 2003 vividly, when the left was on the "wrong side of history," and we were traitors and terrorist-sympathizers.

I swear - Iraq War supporters shouldn't even enter a discussion on foreign policy anymore. They should permanently recuse themselves. That's one you don't get a mulligan on.

They should be retroactively aborted.
 
I wonder who he tears up tomorrow?
The Russiaphobes can't take a challenge ( Peters)without getting nasty and the neocons can't defend their record (Boot)..The Dems just froth "treason/impeachment"

Think there's any chance Tuck-Tuck will venture out of Palookaville?
 
They didn't really give a damn about a war, they just wanted to 'git Booooooosssshhhh'. Such phonies.

Most anti-war lefties I know are extremely principled. I've been against every single war in my lifetime except for Afghanistan, and I came to regret my support for the latter. I was against everything Clinton did, and Libya. I didn't vote for Hillary specifically because she voted for Iraq.

You guys don't know principle. You'll vote for someone as insane as Trump, just because of the (R).
 
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