From Reagan to Trump: Reflecting on Three Disastrous Elections

signalmankenneth

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The Trump presidency will be the worst of the three!

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/it...rump-reflecting-on-three-disastrous-elections

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I do not consider it a certitude that Trump will be a detrimental president.

But in all candor I must admit, I do consider it the most likely outcome.
 
I do not consider it a certitude that Trump will be a detrimental president.

But in all candor I must admit, I do consider it the most likely outcome.
I considered it a most likely outcome that he would not be nominated.
Then I considered it a most likely outcome that he'd lose in a landslide to hrc.
So far he's confounded everybody that has underestimated him.
It should be interesting.
 
its funny that the article complains about campaigns being flooded with dark money when Hillary literally had DOUBLE the money of Trump
 
"I considered it a most likely outcome that he would not be nominated.
Then I considered it a most likely outcome that he'd lose in a landslide to hrc.
So far he's confounded everybody that has underestimated him.
It should be interesting." a #3
Well stated!

I'm more or less w/ you on that; NOT because of my own assessment; but because of my confidence in our most prestigious and respected public opinion polling agencies and their sophisticated methodology.

Perhaps you know, but some others may not:
the following is a Chinese curse:
"May you live in interesting times."
Let us all hope we survive them.
 
PS

"so far in my life time, Carter was the worst followed by Obama" #6
“... Reince Priebus, the Republican National Chairman today said that 300K jobs ... aught to be expected every month ... and just a historical perspective:
- during the 8 years of President Bush (younger) there were 2.1 million net jobs created in the United States. Of the 2.1 million, 1.8 million of them were in the public sector ... that means there were 300,000 jobs in the private sector in 8 months, in 8 years rather, net ...
more jobs have been created in the United States in the last 4 years than in Europe, Japan, all the industrialized modern world combined. ...
70 years since WWII. 36 years of Republican presidents, 34 years of Democratic presidents. In those 70 years, there were 36.7 million jobs created under Republican presidents ... a little over half the time. In 34 years there were 63.7 million created by Democrats. That's 29 million more. You know, perhaps it's an accident once, or twice or what. But I mean at some point the Democrats ought to be comfort in the fact that they have been better the economy and job creation than have been the opposition.
...
It's 15 years since we've had 10 consecutive months of over 200,000 [job growth]. Just 15 years ago there was a fella from Arkansas ... there were more jobs created in Bill Clinton's 8 years than there were in Ronald Reagan's 8 years, and the 12 years of both Bush's combined. I mean 6 million more jobs created in those 8 years, ... policy does kick in, & is reflected in the results.” Mark Shields
You're welcome to post the criteria you apply to arrive at your conclusion.

But I apply such QUANTIFIABLE criteria as how many of us he's killed off, and whether in so doing, anything beneficial was accomplished.

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The bitter irony here is:
the numero uno on the FBI Ten Most Wanted list was UBL, the evil overlord of the attacks of 09/11/01.

BUT !!

In the 8 years of the Bush (younger) administration, President Bush (younger) killed more innocent U.S. citizens than UBL did.

But UBL, the guy that killed fewer, he gets a watery grave.
President Bush (younger) gets a generous pension; and Secret Service protection for life.

- go figure -

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President Obama has been parsimonious with the blood of our countrymen.
I'm very glad that Obama put his foot down on it, and insisted:
- Yes. we NEED boots on the ground to battle ISIL *. BUT !! They don't have to be on U.S. troops. When ISIL becomes enough of an issue for regional powers to put THEIR boots on the ground, the U.S. will be there to support them.

As an honorably discharged United States military Vietnam Era veteran I can't tell you how grateful to President Obama I am for that; and his similar discretion in other U.S. military matters.

Again:
you're welcome to post your criteria which deems Obama 2nd worst in history. I'm sure we'll be amused.

* ISIL's high-ranking military commanders are mainly the former Saddam / Iraq military commanders the Bush (younger) administration fired; unleashing them on the world.
 
so far in my life time, Carter was the worst followed by Obama

Obamaprompter is far worse then Carter, IMHO.

At least Jimmy would change course when he fucked up, Obamaprompter stays the course, stuck on stupid.

The far Left op talks about Reagan and George W Bush as the other two "Disastrous Elections".
 
"You're right about obozo but wrong about carter. Carter was a good president." #9
Carter is a good man, but was not a good president.
Carter wrecked the U.S. economy.
What was the inflation rate when Reagan was inaugurated? 17%?

The U.S. embassy hostage crisis in Iran crippled the Carter White House for 444 days.

I'm surely no fan of hypocrite Reagan. But even he was a better president than Carter; even if not as good a citizen.
 
Obamaprompter is far worse then Carter, IMHO.

At least Jimmy would change course when he fucked up, Obamaprompter stays the course, stuck on stupid.

The far Left op talks about Reagan and George W Bush as the other two "Disastrous Elections".

I always have to laugh at you uninformed morons. GW is considered one of the worst Presidents in America history by conservative and liberal Presidential historians. Right down there with Warren Harding, Herbert Hoover and Andrew Johnson. Carter didn't rank well, but a helluva lot better than GE.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States
 
I always love how Harding had smashing success as president, yet historians insist on denouncing him because he was too dumb to have pulled off those achievements and because several cabinet officers proved corrupt.
 
"Obama was worse than Carter, hands down" DM #19
Excellent.
By what quantifiable criteria?
- Interest rate?
- Private sector job creation?
- Successful use of the U.S. military?
- Getting U.S. prisoner / hostages back from Iran?

Please educate us all DM.
"Obama was worse than Carter, hands down"

That is your assertion.
Please cite 3 criteria that substantiate your claim.

Thanks.
 
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