Was Hiroshima an act of terrorism?

anatta said:
that's deep. Look if you wanna goback to the end of WWI -ok fine. I agree nothing happens in a vacuum. And of course the desire by Japan to feed it's empire by colonization is nothing new.
Nor is Pacific expansionism by the US as a new world power..

I am simply saying Japan chose war, was brutal in it's prosecution, and did not acede to unconditional surrender.
In some real sense war was inevitable, but if you look at it that way; having and using the bomb was inevitable also.
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No it wasn't, not in the least as was attested to by so many at the time, including Admiral Leahy, Eisenhower, Marshall, McArthur, Le May and Churchill!! Please stop spoutinng arrant nonsense. Truman was very weak minded and not given to deep analysis as president, he actually believed that Hiroshima was primarily a military target even though the military facilities were largely left intact whilst the city centre was totally destroyed. Read this and wise up, Le May was no peacenik and he said this before the bombs were dropped!

General Curtis LeMay, the tough cigar-smoking Army Air Force “hawk,” stated publicly shortly before the nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan:
The war would have been over in two weeks. . . . The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/contribute...on-america-used-nuclear-weapons-against-japan
 
Thing1 said:
Re: the bolded - let me tell you what the Darth Hussein Omar of the Middle East would say about it: he would say that the people in the twin towers were anything but innocent, since they elected and supported leaders who pursued policies of aggression & violence in the Middle East that resulted in the deaths of their neighbors and friends. That they armed Saddam Hussein with the chemical weapons that killed many of their countrymen. That they supported "shock and awe." And on & on.

Not what I'm saying, mind you. This is what the Darth Hussein Omar of the Middle East would say.
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And they would be full of radical Islamic propaganda, aka full of shit lol.

Do you mean to imply the Japanese citizens were absolutely no way accountable for the actions of their government? And that we went to war with Japan based on propaganda?

That's a pretty ugly parallel my friend.
 
tsuke said:
nobody ever brings up the effects of an invasion on japan. If the US invaded and the japanese resisted like they did in okinawa and iwo jima then so many of them would have died that the nation would have effectively died as well.

Liberals are ok with this for some reason.
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why are you so fucking stupid
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
And they would be full of radical Islamic propaganda, aka full of shit lol.

Do you mean to imply the Japanese citizens were absolutely no way accountable for the actions of their government? And that we went to war with Japan based on propaganda?

That's a pretty ugly parallel my friend.
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And we never get propaganda...right?
 
the emperor was a god to his people


they were killing them selves and their children when troops showed up


how would invading instead have stopped that asshole
 
evince said:
why is It sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo important to you to TRASH this American generation
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It's important to me to be a country that stands for something.

It's important to me that we don't target innocents, and use WMD's.

You hate the truth. You supported Hiroshima, and I'm assuming Vietnam - for strictly partisan purposes.
 
the civilians would have still died



along with tens of thousands of American troops



so you slander an American president
 
to prove truman should have sacrificed all those American lives you need to rove the civilians were not killing them selves and their children.



that means you have to call American heros liars
 
Milagro said:
No it wasn't, not in the least as was attested to by so many at the time, including Admiral Leahy, Eisenhower, Marshall, McArthur, Le May and Churchill!! Please stop spoutinng arrant nonsense. Truman was very weak minded and not given to deep analysis as president, he actually believed that Hiroshima was primarily a military target even though the military facilities were largely left intact whilst the city centre was totally destroyed. Read this and wise up, Le May was no peacenik and he said this before the bombs were dropped!



http://www.zerohedge.com/contribute...on-america-used-nuclear-weapons-against-japan
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it is utterly insane/baseless to say the war would have been over in 2 weeks .I know who Le May is from Vietnam and I hold him in ill regard.

The bomb was inevitable, if for US political reasons as well as military reasons.
I get the targeting. But the war did end after 2 bombs - so that has to count, as well as no US invasions.
Checkmate. game over.
 
anatta said:
it is utterly insane/baseless to say the war would have been over in 2 weeks .I know who Le May is from Vietnam and I hold him in ill regard.

The bomb was inevitable, if for US political reasons as well as military reasons.
I get the targeting. But the war did end after 2 bombs - so that has to count, as well as no US invasions.
Checkmate. game over.
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  • The Joint Chiefs of Staff never formally studied the decision and never made an official recommendation to the President. Brief informal discussions may have occurred, but no record even of these exists. There is no record whatsoever of the usual extensive staff work and evaluation of alternative options by the Joint Chiefs, nor did the Chiefs ever claim to be involved. (See p. 322, Chapter 26)
http://www.colorado.edu/AmStudies/lewis/2010/atomicdec.htm

 
Eisenhower opposed it, "Japan was already defeated. Dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary."

Pacific Fleet commander Admiral Nimitz agreed: "The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace. The atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military point of view, in their defeat."

Admiral Leahy, President Truman's Chief of Staff, concurred: the atomic attacks were "of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already ready to surrender."



http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/phil-strongman-hiroshima-is-a-war-crime-that-haunts-my-family-67-years-on-8008821.html
 
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