Zelensky concedes that Ukraine won't be part of NATO

[moon]

Ukraine admits it won’t be part of NATO
Kiev’s constitution-enshrined bid for membership in the military bloc can’t be realized, Zelensky said

NATO allies don’t want to see Ukraine among their ranks and Kiev realizes that, President Volodymyr Zelensky told Western leaders on Tuesday. Now Kiev seeks protection from individual member states.

“We’ve been hearing for years that the [NATO] doors were supposedly open, but now we know we won’t enter there. That is the truth, and we must acknowledge that,” Zelensky said during a video call with the UK Joint Expeditionary Force, a meeting of the leaders of Nordic and Baltic nations hosted by Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

“I am glad that our people are beginning to understand that and to rely on ourselves and those partners that aid us,” he added.

https://www.rt.com/russia/551989-zelensky-no-nato-membership/

Shame about all the flattened cities and dead people.

 

[Celticguy]

so accept the terms and end this thing

 

[BartenderElite]

Shame about all the flattened cities and dead people.

100% on Putin.

100%.

 

[Legion]

Shame about all the flattened cities and dead people.

At least he still has his Twitter and Instagram followers.

 

[Legion]

100% on Putin. 100%.

 

[moon]

100% on Putin.

100%.

You're kidding yourself.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

You're kidding yourself.

Ukrainians are flattening their own cities, right?

 

[Cypress]

Shame about all the flattened cities and dead people.

If true, a massive victory for Ukraine over Russian Army, who got stop dead in it's tracks. Less than two weeks ago you were cheering that sovereign Ukraine was going to be reincorporated into the Russian empire.

 

[moon]

Ukrainians are flattening their own cities, right?

NATO invited it. The ' Three Musketeer ' concept of NATO belongs in the 19th century.

 

[moon]

If true, a massive victory for Ukraine over Russian Army, who got stop dead in it's tracks. Less than two weeks ago you were cheering that sovereign Ukraine was going to be reincorporated into the Russian empire.

You're either mistaken or a common-or-garden liar. Show me which it is.

 

[Cypress]

You're either mistaken or a common-or-garden liar. Show me which it is.

You have numerous posts claiming that Ukraine is rightly part of the Russian empire.

The Ukrainian army and the sovereign citizens of Ukraine are proving just how wrong you were.

Your hero Vladimir Putin illegally invaded Ukraine with the stated goal of removing the Supposedly Nazi government.

If Putin agrees to the settlement you are claiming, it is a massive strategic loss for Russia.

In exchange for some vague promise Kiev won't join NATO in the future, Putin destroyed the Russian economy, isolated Russiafrom international finance and trade, choked off western investment, endured the humiliation of his vaunted Russian army by a third rate country, left the so-called Nazi government in place, and demostrated Russian military weakness to the world.

 

[moon]

You have numerous posts claiming that Ukraine is rightly part of the Russian empire.

No, I don't.




Last chance- error or deliberate lie ?

 

[Cypress]

No, I don't.



Last chance- error or deliberate lie ?

You have been cheering Dear Vlad on for the better part of three weeks, though I can understand why you desire to tip toe away from your prior Putin support.

 

[moon]

You've crapped out. There are no such posts claiming that Ukraine is part of ' the Russian empire'

You're a liar.

Remember- I said that Ukraine would never become a member of NATO. Now Zelensky agrees with me- and with Putin. You, on the other hand are still rooting for Ukrainian membership.
You're a simple-minded loser.

 

[Cypress]

You've crapped out. There are no such posts claiming that Ukraine is part of ' the Russian empire'

You're a liar.

Remember- I said that Ukraine would never become a member of NATO. Now Zelensky agrees with me- and with Putin. You, on the other hand are still rooting for Ukrainian membership.
You're a simple-minded loser.

^^ This is precisely equivalent to the rightwing posters who relentlessly run cover for Trump, but then protest they really don't support Trump.

Anyone here would be hard pressed to find a thread of yours about Ukraine which didn't manage to work in the pro-Kremlin, pro-Putin angle.

 

[Cypress]

Fuck Putin

Putin's despotism is hurting people I care about in Russia; people who wanted no part of his war crimes or illegal invasion.

I currently have zero tolerance for any dupe out there running cover for Dear Vlad.

 

[moon]

^^ This is precisely equivalent to the rightwing posters who relentlessly run cover for Trump, but then protest they really don't support Trump.

Anyone here would be hard pressed to find a thread of yours about Ukraine which didn't manage to work in the pro-Kremlin, pro-Putin angle.

Two-stepping suits you. However, you made a specific claim that you now regret- because it was false. You'll have to live with that.

 

[anatta]

non-NATO aint gonna do it. Ukraine will just be a defacto NATO state

Those Russian redlines have to be addressed to get any meaningful agreement

 

[reagansghost]

Lavrov conceded Putin is a moron who couldn't lead a squad of grunts to the latrine

man up comrade

 

[moon]

non-NATO aint gonna do it. Ukraine will just be a defacto NATO state

Those Russian redlines have to be addressed to get any meaningful agreement

Recent reports say that the ongoing negotiations are now centered upon just what sort of armed forces Ukraine will be allowed to have after it capitulates- and where they will be based.